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Have you had your dna tested? 11:43 - Jun 25 with 16716 viewsArthur_from_OTB

I don’t understand why more people are not interested in genealogy and dna testing.

If you want to get into dna testing then you should do it soon because it will not survive the PC revolution in the Western world. The evidence seems to be that our genes have a far greater influence on our outcomes in life than was previously thought. But academics involved in this research are being attacked as racists and are being purged from the universities. Anything which goes against PC dogma is taboo.

The latest victim is Steve Hsu a professor in America. I remember him for two very interesting things he said in a podcast. The first was that there are 300,000 Chinese with an IQ over 160 compared with 10,000 in the USA. Most of the great discoveries made in the world have come from over 160 IQ geniuses like Maxwell and Newton so unless the Chinese geniuses are weighed down by the enormous number of Chinese thickos I think we will see exciting technological developments coming from China.

The second thing he mentioned was that there are 100,000 untested "rape kits" in America. Rape kits are evidence from rapes that the police could not afford to prepare for dna testing. I think Hse said the main cost of testing is in the collection and extraction of dna from these kits. He estimated $1,000 for each kit even though the actual testing would only cost $50. I heard this podcast about 2 years ago so the figures might be wrong. Of course, the main cost of all this would be the trials and the imprisonments so it is fairly certain that the kits will be quietly destroyed.

Dna tests are showing that many fathers are not the genetic fathers of their children. I think the rate of this is much higher than was previously estimated. This is causing family disputes and unhappiness. It won’t be long before someone is killed because of a dna test. That might be an excuse for shutting it all down in the UK. Or they could use privacy concerns. You might find it hard to get health or life insurance if your dna profile was made public or hacked.

If you do get a dna test then I would recommend using a service where you can see the individual segments you have received from your ancestors. Ancestry DNA do not give you this information. You would be better off with 23andMe or Myheritage. I can’t say anything about the others because I have not looked at them. With a bit of research you will be able to work out which segment (a contiguous chuck of dna) on each chromosome came from which ancestor going back to about 1800. You could combine this information with health information about your ancestor and the functions of the shared genes. We are still in the dark about what we get from the various genes but I think the Chinese will fill in the gaps in the near future.
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Have you had your dna tested? on 17:24 - Jun 26 with 1711 viewsArthur_from_OTB

Have you had your dna tested? on 15:30 - Jun 26 by Professor

26 years is way out of date.
The principles of genetics are exactly the same in birds and mammals. The principles of how you link a genotype are identical. Genealogy is nothing to do with this. You are clearly an intelligent and well read person. But there are gaps in your knowledge and understanding of genetics.

The one thing you are right about is the use of AI and machine learning to interrogate data in a much more efficient way. Increasing in use, though still has a few issues with reliability


Well we will just have to agree to disagree.
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Have you had your dna tested? on 17:52 - Jun 26 with 1693 viewslondonlisa2001

Have you had your dna tested? on 17:23 - Jun 26 by Arthur_from_OTB

I had no evidence it was you I just wanted to narrow down the field. Thank you for that information. If the guilty person is reading this thread then if you stop down arrowing me now that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you, but if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you and I will down arrow you until you look like a cross between St Sebastian and a pin cushion. I jest, of course. Who cares about down arrows?

Now back to Salisbury. First of all they couldn’t have gone to house because they would have been on Skripals cctv or the cctv of someone in the street. What were they doing there? There’s a small chance they were tourists. They could also have been doing spying work unrelated to Skripal and the Skripals were used to frame them. They could just have been couriers working for some dodgy oligarch living in the Salisbury area. There are some Russian oligarchs living near me. The Uk is full of Russians. I chat to one most days. My favourite theory is that Skripal wanted to defect back to Russia but our secret services stopped him and set up a situation to blame the Russians for a chemical attack.

All these are just fanciful theories. I don’t know what happened. All I do know is that the official story doesn’t make sense and in the words of that great and learned woman Judge Judy "If something does not make sense then it is a lie".


I’m quite surprised that with your genetically superior IQ you haven’t worked out you can click the little box showing up or down arrows and it shows you the username that has up or down-arrowed you.
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Have you had your dna tested? on 17:54 - Jun 26 with 1690 viewsNeath_Jack

Have you had your dna tested? on 17:52 - Jun 26 by londonlisa2001

I’m quite surprised that with your genetically superior IQ you haven’t worked out you can click the little box showing up or down arrows and it shows you the username that has up or down-arrowed you.


That's just cruel

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Have you had your dna tested? on 20:01 - Jun 26 with 1659 viewsArthur_from_OTB

Have you had your dna tested? on 17:52 - Jun 26 by londonlisa2001

I’m quite surprised that with your genetically superior IQ you haven’t worked out you can click the little box showing up or down arrows and it shows you the username that has up or down-arrowed you.


Thank you, I didn’t know that.

If you didn’t realise it I was only joking when I said I wanted to find out who down arrowed me. I wouldn’t have thought a messageboard would have the feature you pointed out. Knowing who dislikes your posts just leads to tit for tat backbiting. I don’t want to know who I have annoyed. In fact, I don’t want to annoy anyone and it worries me that some people dislike my posts.

By the way, I have never claimed to have a "genetically superior IQ".
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Have you had your dna tested? on 00:12 - Jun 27 with 1621 viewslonglostjack

Have you had your dna tested? on 23:22 - Jun 25 by Lohengrin

Then you should be immediately put to sleep, any dilution of the Beagle bloodline is a sin before God!


Nature’s perfection is not for tampering with...




Listen now retro boy 😉 Collie Beagle mix - nothing wrong with that. Even more intelligence to get herself stuffed with the big brown eyes!

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Have you had your dna tested? on 07:26 - Jun 27 with 1569 viewsLohengrin

Have you had your dna tested? on 00:12 - Jun 27 by longlostjack

Listen now retro boy 😉 Collie Beagle mix - nothing wrong with that. Even more intelligence to get herself stuffed with the big brown eyes!


” Listen now retro boy...”

That’s cold!


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Have you had your dna tested? on 08:25 - Jun 27 with 1551 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Have you had your dna tested? on 12:51 - Jun 26 by Lohengrin

Pass? I suspect your frame of reference for pop culture is a lot more contemporary than mine...


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Have you had your dna tested? on 09:07 - Jun 30 with 1487 viewssquarebear

Have you had your dna tested? on 16:16 - Jun 25 by Jack_Kass

Be careful what you wish for.

Friend was bought a gift for her birthday, turns out she has a half sister, from the result of an marital affair of her recently passed Father. She lives in the locality.


Furthermore. A mass murderer in California
was arrested in 2018 after his DNA was found via a genealogy website.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53226327

That's why I won't be registering mine any time soon, you feckers. So watch yourselves.
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Have you had your dna tested? on 10:53 - Jun 30 with 1456 viewsBest_loser

Mine said I was more Scandinavian than welsh
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Have you had your dna tested? on 11:01 - Jun 30 with 1452 viewsProfessor

Have you had your dna tested? on 10:53 - Jun 30 by Best_loser

Mine said I was more Scandinavian than welsh


Well Sven, what did you expect?
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Have you had your dna tested? on 11:04 - Jun 30 with 1448 viewsBest_loser

Have you had your dna tested? on 11:01 - Jun 30 by Professor

Well Sven, what did you expect?


Now I drive a Volvo whilst listening to abba
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Have you had your dna tested? on 11:07 - Jun 30 with 1445 viewsArthur_from_OTB

Have you had your dna tested? on 09:07 - Jun 30 by squarebear

Furthermore. A mass murderer in California
was arrested in 2018 after his DNA was found via a genealogy website.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53226327

That's why I won't be registering mine any time soon, you feckers. So watch yourselves.


Some of us remember this case solved by dna :

http://aboutforensics.co.uk/joseph-kappen/

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/nostalgia/how-saturday-night-strangler-f
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Have you had your dna tested? on 21:05 - Jul 4 with 1401 viewsCatullus

Have you had your dna tested? on 22:14 - Jun 25 by Professor

I am not very intimidating! I’m a short, fat middle aged Welsh scientist.

I will be replying to Arthur in the morning. Enjoying a glass of Pinot Noir.


We have 4 out of 5 in common then...I'm just not as clever as you!

What you said about Ethiopia, my cousin was project manager (building roads and then a dam somewhere in Africa, possibly the Ivory Coast) and he said similar to you. The local people he worked with who had the least were usually the most hard working and the most generous. Mind you, my cousin for all his hard work and deserved success is one of the most humble blokes you'll ever come across.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Have you had your dna tested? on 21:53 - Jul 4 with 1380 viewsProfessor

Have you had your dna tested? on 21:05 - Jul 4 by Catullus

We have 4 out of 5 in common then...I'm just not as clever as you!

What you said about Ethiopia, my cousin was project manager (building roads and then a dam somewhere in Africa, possibly the Ivory Coast) and he said similar to you. The local people he worked with who had the least were usually the most hard working and the most generous. Mind you, my cousin for all his hard work and deserved success is one of the most humble blokes you'll ever come across.


Great experience Catullus. Been about seven times to Ethiopia- to see the unrest this week was sad. Malawi was good too, but very colonial. Strange to hear people being told to take the Bwana’s luggage. Saw a lot of the country. We had two study sites at opposite sides of the country. Would be a 12 hour journey by 4 X 4. Harar which is an Arabic City in the east was mad. Fantastic brewery where we had dinner every night. Couple of steins or Jambo and a meal for about 2 quid. Journey through the Rift valley was fascinating - nomads, dust devils, camels and wildlife. Having Tibs (essentially spicy strips of steak) and beer for breakfast at 7,30 as nowhere ‘safe’ for farengi or foreigners in the rift. So many stories- funny, sad and scary. Stayed in hotels which cost less than 2 quid including breakfast which were still bad value. The odd tropical disease. All good!
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Have you had your dna tested? on 22:56 - Jul 4 with 1362 viewspencoedjack

Have you had your dna tested? on 09:07 - Jun 30 by squarebear

Furthermore. A mass murderer in California
was arrested in 2018 after his DNA was found via a genealogy website.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53226327

That's why I won't be registering mine any time soon, you feckers. So watch yourselves.


It can also be used in more positive cases.

My wife & her mother both have had breast cancer, my step daughter will shortly be having gene testing to see whether she has the gene which will give her a high risk of also having breast cancer or the gene of her biological father.

If she has the gene of her mother/Nan she will have a double mastectomy as a precaution.
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Have you had your dna tested? on 23:44 - Jul 4 with 1350 viewsProfessor

Have you had your dna tested? on 22:56 - Jul 4 by pencoedjack

It can also be used in more positive cases.

My wife & her mother both have had breast cancer, my step daughter will shortly be having gene testing to see whether she has the gene which will give her a high risk of also having breast cancer or the gene of her biological father.

If she has the gene of her mother/Nan she will have a double mastectomy as a precaution.


brca1? My best wishes to you both and hope she does not carry the gene. Testing and the precaution is the best approach but a horrendous decision to face. There is a young scientist on twitter who has gone this.
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Have you had your dna tested? on 01:26 - Jul 5 with 1337 viewsmajorraglan

Have you had your dna tested? on 22:56 - Jul 4 by pencoedjack

It can also be used in more positive cases.

My wife & her mother both have had breast cancer, my step daughter will shortly be having gene testing to see whether she has the gene which will give her a high risk of also having breast cancer or the gene of her biological father.

If she has the gene of her mother/Nan she will have a double mastectomy as a precaution.


Guy I used to work with lost his other half to breast cancer at a young age, he had his daughter tested for the gene, unfortunately she also carried the gene and as a teenager was faced with the prospect of having a double mastectomy. It hit them all for 6 and I am pretty sure they were being supported through the options and process by a number of different strands of the health service.

Hope all goes ok for your step daughter.
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Have you had your dna tested? on 08:37 - Jul 5 with 1300 viewspencoedjack

Have you had your dna tested? on 01:26 - Jul 5 by majorraglan

Guy I used to work with lost his other half to breast cancer at a young age, he had his daughter tested for the gene, unfortunately she also carried the gene and as a teenager was faced with the prospect of having a double mastectomy. It hit them all for 6 and I am pretty sure they were being supported through the options and process by a number of different strands of the health service.

Hope all goes ok for your step daughter.


My wife, step daughter & mother in law went for the test around 5 years ago my wife & mother in law both had the gene my wife had a double mastectomy her mum decided against surgery.

The brca gene specialist ( the top person in the country who is based in Cardiff) spoke to my step daughter who was 22 at the time & although didn't advise not to know the result said the chance of having breast cancer under the age 30 is very small, due to the fact they recommend having a hysterectomy as it’s linked with breast cancer ( my wife also had one when she discovered she had the gene) it was a life changing decision.

She made the very difficult decision not to have the test at the time.

After 2 wonderful kids she will have the test/results in the next month obviously we all hope it’s negative.

Advice on this test is very limited any of you with a history of breast cancer in your family should ask the question if you have a daughter.

Stay safe.
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Have you had your dna tested? on 08:39 - Jul 5 with 1297 viewspencoedjack

Have you had your dna tested? on 23:44 - Jul 4 by Professor

brca1? My best wishes to you both and hope she does not carry the gene. Testing and the precaution is the best approach but a horrendous decision to face. There is a young scientist on twitter who has gone this.


Thanks
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Have you had your dna tested? on 09:50 - Jul 5 with 1281 viewsCatullus

Have you had your dna tested? on 10:53 - Jun 30 by Best_loser

Mine said I was more Scandinavian than welsh


I said this to some of the welsh nats on here, our DNA profile tells us there aren't any purebred Welsh people and many of us are far more foreign than we'd like to think. Though it is true that the Welsh gene shows us to be aming the very first to settle these islands.

http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-03-19-who-do-you-think-you-really-are-genetic-map-

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4182845/Genes-show-Welsh-are-the-true-Br

I have also read somewhere, though can't find it now, that most Welsh people have large amounts of Southern European DNA and most of us are no more than 25% Welsh by DNA.

My own heritage (by Surname) could be Scandi, Germanic or Cornish, ,my great, great grandpa came over from Cornwall to marry a Mumbles girl and they stayed there. My surname though is of ancient Norman origin, from the Anjou area.

Nationality is a myth, we are all just 'Earthicans'


Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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