| Dean Saunders Jailed. 11:57 - Aug 28 with 12190 views | dazdec197296 |
Been sentenced to 10 weeks in prison for refusing a breath test. |  | | |  |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 19:40 - Aug 30 with 1487 views | sainthelens |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 19:31 - Aug 30 by majorraglan |
I suspect Saunders will now become a bit of a persona non grata now and that his media work/punditry will begin to dry up, he’s only himself to blame though. What he did was inexcusable. |
Caragher gobbed over a family, 6 months later back on sky. |  | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 20:32 - Aug 30 with 1434 views | perchrockjack |
Deano clearly has the funds to avoid jail by employing Freeman. Simply a delaying tactic. Justice ? | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 21:56 - Aug 30 with 1357 views | Glyn1 |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 20:32 - Aug 30 by perchrockjack |
Deano clearly has the funds to avoid jail by employing Freeman. Simply a delaying tactic. Justice ? |
Costing him money then.
What are they arguing about anyway? How long he's behind bars or whether he does litter picking instead? [Post edited 30 Aug 2019 21:59]
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 22:42 - Aug 30 with 1306 views | perchrockjack |
Nick Freeman takes on cases from many footballers as they have money .He s Cheshire based so it s ideal for him.
He does not do it for anything other than substantial fees,which are as of nothing to those on obscene money.
Ordinary Joe hasnt that clout and ,as such, takes what is meted out.
Hence my indignation to the legal profession | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 00:55 - Aug 31 with 1245 views | NotLoyal |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 19:40 - Aug 30 by sainthelens |
Caragher gobbed over a family, 6 months later back on sky. |
Brazil, Quinn, Marsh, Saunders, Atkinson, Wise, Pennant, Adams, Wilkins, Samson, Adam Johnson, Duncan Ferguson, Marlon king, Lee Hughes, McCormick ( Plymouth keeper ) I could name twenty more.
And twenty more again.
Not people able to function in a proper society based on their own arrogance and ignorance. |  |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 02:57 - Aug 31 with 1226 views | Jack123 |
Disgusting to be driving like that... But, the sentence doesn't seem right, I have not read all through the posts, Is it his first time for drunk driving? No way 10 week sentence for that.. |  |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 06:03 - Aug 31 with 1198 views | Gowerjack |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 02:57 - Aug 31 by Jack123 |
Disgusting to be driving like that... But, the sentence doesn't seem right, I have not read all through the posts, Is it his first time for drunk driving? No way 10 week sentence for that.. |
Your're right.
Should have been 10 months in the big house and a lifetime ban from driving.
There is absolutely no excuse or defence for his actions. |  |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 06:49 - Aug 31 with 1182 views | Cooperman |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 02:57 - Aug 31 by Jack123 |
Disgusting to be driving like that... But, the sentence doesn't seem right, I have not read all through the posts, Is it his first time for drunk driving? No way 10 week sentence for that.. |
You shouldn’t judge whether ten weeks is harsh based on what the posts say. Go and have a look at the video and his obvious attempt at sidestepping a breath test; unfortunately he was both too thick and too pi55ed to understand the consequences. Then there was his arrogant approach to the court hearing. |  |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 13:53 - Aug 31 with 1072 views | Swanseaisgreat |
I don't know how the appeal works, but could he get a longer sentence as a result? |  | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:09 - Aug 31 with 1044 views | perchrockjack |
Ask our resident barrister poster,jonalot. They are always available to advice as to how the system works.
I reckon I conducted 1000 + Intoximeter procedures and lost count as to how many time called to court ,last minute on holidays included,to explain AGAIN the procedures to the Bench and how many times the driver was warned.
Police do not have to give repeated warnings as to failing to provide,often by sucking or blowing through side on mouthpiece but to save solicitor using this ruse ,some custody officers almost beg the punter to blow.
THEY DO NOT BLOW BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY ARE WELL OVER THE LIMIT
Asthma, want my brief/doctor, are pure bullshitting delay tactics.
Drink Drivers are kunts | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:29 - Aug 31 with 1017 views | controversial_jack |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 13:53 - Aug 28 by perchrockjack |
Not harsh at all but unusual.Seems the Judge has some sense.
Harsh is when someone who has the opportunity to kill people on public roads is allowed to walk free. Banned1 My feckn arse.They still drive as there is little chance of finding police officers to breath test them.
Drink driving is possible butchery but I admit to a little bias as having to free body parts from a car isnt pleasantIt kinda smells and it stays with you for life. Done it too many times so forgive my indignation.
Saunders has a few bob and does not need to drive himself.It is arrogant,self indulgence and possibly lethal.
ST.Sometimes Police have to do nasty things to protect you and family.
Next ....why not confiscate cars of drunk drivers and sell them into public funds.
Drink driving kills .You drink ,dont drive, and dont complain when getting caught and sentenced.
I note this cretin refused roadside and station tests. Why? Cos he is feckn legless and any innocent family coming bck from a weekend away with the kids in north Wales could have been wiped out b this tw@t.
Anyone suggesting this is harsh needs to rethink,really rethink if one of their kids are on the road when a driver appears with reduced perception of hazards. |
The sentence was for refusing the test not for being drunk. The usual sentence is a years ban and a fine, so it's harsh from that point of view. | | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:31 - Aug 31 with 1014 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:09 - Aug 31 by perchrockjack |
Ask our resident barrister poster,jonalot. They are always available to advice as to how the system works.
I reckon I conducted 1000 + Intoximeter procedures and lost count as to how many time called to court ,last minute on holidays included,to explain AGAIN the procedures to the Bench and how many times the driver was warned.
Police do not have to give repeated warnings as to failing to provide,often by sucking or blowing through side on mouthpiece but to save solicitor using this ruse ,some custody officers almost beg the punter to blow.
THEY DO NOT BLOW BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY ARE WELL OVER THE LIMIT
Asthma, want my brief/doctor, are pure bullshitting delay tactics.
Drink Drivers are kunts |
The main focus that a lot of the drink drive specialists rely on is whether or not the ‘statutory warning ‘ has been given. What this means is that when you are about to blow into the machine, the police have to warn you that you will be asked to provide to samples of breath and failure to do so may result in being prosecuted. If that’s not given, the case collapses there. People also use medical defences such as asthma, panic attacks etc, however, these are very difficult to prove as the defence has to show that they could bot provide due to this, which has to be via medical evidence, normally being a doctor giving evidence in court.
Police, if they believe the defendant is genuine, can offer blood or urine as an alternative.
Re the Freeman point, I do agree with Perch, however, his wings have been clipped recently with changes to the way these cases are run.
I have given training sessions to police officers about the procedure and have used Freeman’s previous cases as part of the lectures. Rather than castigate him, use him as training to know what not to do next time.
In answer to the question about whether the Judge can increase the sentence, absolutely he can, probably won’t here but is certainly within his power.
As part of the sentence, the judge will look at two things. 1. If there was any indication of serious impairment, and 2 was there a deliberate refusal. I know nothing about this case but seeing the sentence the judge must have decided both applied.
The appeal, on the guidelines is perfectly reasonable as they’ll be arguing that the sentence should have been suspended, not immediate. Seeing how near the appeal is, they’re probably appealing the sentence as opposed to the conviction. |  | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:34 - Aug 31 with 1008 views | perchrockjack |
Of course it is for drink driving.
Explain how it is "harsh".
You have to understand the nature of drink driving and the carnage that ensues.
Trust me ,if you had a family member mown down and crushed to death and you have to identify at the Morgue,you would change your attitiude.
A car is as lethal as a loaded firearm.It can ,in fact ,kill easier and more effectively.
Unless we crack down on crime and anti social behaviour ,your nirvana will never come.In the meantime, we drive our kids around when there are those unfit to drive through drink and or drugs.
You have a quite shocking attitude to any punishment whatsoever. | |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:54 - Aug 31 with 983 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 14:34 - Aug 31 by perchrockjack |
Of course it is for drink driving.
Explain how it is "harsh".
You have to understand the nature of drink driving and the carnage that ensues.
Trust me ,if you had a family member mown down and crushed to death and you have to identify at the Morgue,you would change your attitiude.
A car is as lethal as a loaded firearm.It can ,in fact ,kill easier and more effectively.
Unless we crack down on crime and anti social behaviour ,your nirvana will never come.In the meantime, we drive our kids around when there are those unfit to drive through drink and or drugs.
You have a quite shocking attitude to any punishment whatsoever. |
I know of the consequences of drink driving. I prosecuted, last year, a death by dangerous driving of a young boy who was killed by a drunk driver. I read about and saw the pictures of the dead body, I spent over a week on the trial, I spoke to and consoled the family after the trial, I had to guide his mother through giving evidence about the day, I ripped the defendant apart during cross cross examination and dismantled his lies one by one, I had the responsibility of obtaining justice for them. With the greatest of respect, please don’t, for the umpteenth time, question my integrity. You are not the only one that cares.
I was asked for my legal opinion re the sentence for the offence, which is what I did. May I ask, how that is shocking ? | | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 15:01 - Aug 31 with 968 views | Sirjohnalot |
Just realises, Perch’s reply wasn’t to me
Doh | | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 15:08 - Aug 31 with 963 views | DJack |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 15:01 - Aug 31 by Sirjohnalot |
Just realises, Perch’s reply wasn’t to me
Doh |
One of the "joys" of posting! |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 15:16 - Aug 31 with 959 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 15:08 - Aug 31 by DJack |
One of the "joys" of posting! |
Aye, need to read it properly before I go off on one | | | |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 15:32 - Aug 31 with 949 views | DJack |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 15:16 - Aug 31 by Sirjohnalot |
Aye, need to read it properly before I go off on one |
At least you were polite... me and the rest of the rabble we tend to shoot off half-cocked on occasion.  | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 15:34 - Aug 31 with 946 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Dean Saunders Jailed. on 15:32 - Aug 31 by DJack |
At least you were polite... me and the rest of the rabble we tend to shoot off half-cocked on occasion. |
I’m from Neath, I’m definitely part of the rabble : ) | | | |
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