| May vs Corbyn TV debate 12:18 - Nov 27 with 9011 views | westwalesed |
She knows she won't get it through the Commons and in my view is laying the groundwork for a General Election campaign, same as this nationwide tour and "selling it to the country". |  |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 12:22 - Nov 27 with 5155 views | Darran |
Nobody would get it through the Commons.
Seriously though I ain’t no Tory I can’t stand the fuçking witch but I don’t get why so many people are blaming the çunt.
Who’s going to get a better deal? The only deal we’ll get is what Europe are prepared to give us. |  |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 12:27 - Nov 27 with 5147 views | westwalesed |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 12:22 - Nov 27 by Darran |
Nobody would get it through the Commons.
Seriously though I ain’t no Tory I can’t stand the fuçking witch but I don’t get why so many people are blaming the çunt.
Who’s going to get a better deal? The only deal we’ll get is what Europe are prepared to give us. |
I couldn't agree more, nobody, but nobody would get a better deal because the EU have absolutely no incentive whatsoever to do so. Why do you think they are so bloody keen to ratify the thing? They know full well they will have us over a barrel. Signing a deal which we would have no way of exiting unilaterally is like taking a job and your boss has to agree to let you leave if you want to! | |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 12:52 - Nov 27 with 5120 views | sherpajacob |
If there is a TV debate is should involve other party leaders as well, so that includes Arlene Foster. |  |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 12:57 - Nov 27 with 5098 views | trampie |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 13:48 - Nov 27 with 5043 views | sherpajacob |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 12:57 - Nov 27 by trampie |
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The Precious union?
she doesn't give a toss about Wales, NI and Scotland now, when the economy tanks, itll be worse than under Thatcher. | |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 13:55 - Nov 27 with 5034 views | WarwickHunt |
Great spectacle - a remainer arguing to leave and a leaver arguing to stay. |  | | |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 13:56 - Nov 27 with 5030 views | WarwickHunt |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 12:52 - Nov 27 by sherpajacob |
If there is a TV debate is should involve other party leaders as well, so that includes Arlene Foster. |
Outnumbered. Massively.
Won't happen. | | | |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 14:00 - Nov 27 with 5022 views | Darran |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 12:27 - Nov 27 by westwalesed |
I couldn't agree more, nobody, but nobody would get a better deal because the EU have absolutely no incentive whatsoever to do so. Why do you think they are so bloody keen to ratify the thing? They know full well they will have us over a barrel. Signing a deal which we would have no way of exiting unilaterally is like taking a job and your boss has to agree to let you leave if you want to! |
Absolutely and Cameron is mia. | |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 14:03 - Nov 27 with 5023 views | Batterseajack |
This debate needs to be TM verses an arch WTO terms leaver. | | | |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 15:37 - Nov 27 with 4974 views | sotonswan |
"laying the groundwork for a General Election campaign"
I think you are probably right. Even her own party don't know what she's up to. She's gone completely rogue. |  |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 15:46 - Nov 27 with 4962 views | Catullus |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 14:00 - Nov 27 by Darran |
Absolutely and Cameron is mia. |
Totally agree with both of you. Yes she's hopeless, yes it's a sh/t situation but she didn't create it and she was left with it when Cameron ran away.
The tv debate is a waste of time. I reckon there's more chance the electorate would vote it through because we can see it's the only deal, even if we don't like the clause that could tie us in indefinitely.
I also reckon a second vote looks more likely and if Parliament turns it down May has two choices, a second referendum or a general election. Ref2 it is then. | |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 16:45 - Nov 27 with 4925 views | pikeypaul |
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She seems to have forgotten saying no deal is better than a bad deal on many occasions.
No way the house will pass it and she knows it.
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 18:32 - Nov 27 with 4859 views | longlostjack |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 15:46 - Nov 27 by Catullus |
Totally agree with both of you. Yes she's hopeless, yes it's a sh/t situation but she didn't create it and she was left with it when Cameron ran away.
The tv debate is a waste of time. I reckon there's more chance the electorate would vote it through because we can see it's the only deal, even if we don't like the clause that could tie us in indefinitely.
I also reckon a second vote looks more likely and if Parliament turns it down May has two choices, a second referendum or a general election. Ref2 it is then. |
Or Norway Plus. Pikey would love it !  |  |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 19:07 - Nov 27 with 4832 views | PentyrchJack |
What's the point of a televised public debate if she isn't putting the deal to a public vote? Personally I just want to be out. |  |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 19:20 - Nov 27 with 4819 views | exiledclaseboy |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 15:46 - Nov 27 by Catullus |
Totally agree with both of you. Yes she's hopeless, yes it's a sh/t situation but she didn't create it and she was left with it when Cameron ran away.
The tv debate is a waste of time. I reckon there's more chance the electorate would vote it through because we can see it's the only deal, even if we don't like the clause that could tie us in indefinitely.
I also reckon a second vote looks more likely and if Parliament turns it down May has two choices, a second referendum or a general election. Ref2 it is then. |
I don’t agree that she didn’t create it. Ok, she didn’t call the referendum but she’s the one who took over as PM spouting inane “Brexit means Brexit” and “red, white and blue Brexit” platitudes. She’s the one who invoked Article 50 without having any kind of coherent strategy for what happens next. She’s the one who set unustainable amd unachievable “red lines” at the start of the negotiation process to appease the swivel eyed loons on the hard right of her party. She’s the one who called an unnecessary general election and then proceeded to oversee the worst campaign in modern history to blow a 20 point lead and an existing overall majority in the Commons.
About the only part of this mess she can’t be blamed for is the referendum itself. The hopeless position in which she now finds herself, however, is entirely of her own making. |  |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 19:58 - Nov 27 with 4796 views | waynekerr55 |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 12:22 - Nov 27 by Darran |
Nobody would get it through the Commons.
Seriously though I ain’t no Tory I can’t stand the fuçking witch but I don’t get why so many people are blaming the çunt.
Who’s going to get a better deal? The only deal we’ll get is what Europe are prepared to give us. |
Uncle Jez reckons he can. Seriously what fúcking idiots we have running the country |  |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:00 - Nov 27 with 4793 views | Highjack |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 19:20 - Nov 27 by exiledclaseboy |
I don’t agree that she didn’t create it. Ok, she didn’t call the referendum but she’s the one who took over as PM spouting inane “Brexit means Brexit” and “red, white and blue Brexit” platitudes. She’s the one who invoked Article 50 without having any kind of coherent strategy for what happens next. She’s the one who set unustainable amd unachievable “red lines” at the start of the negotiation process to appease the swivel eyed loons on the hard right of her party. She’s the one who called an unnecessary general election and then proceeded to oversee the worst campaign in modern history to blow a 20 point lead and an existing overall majority in the Commons.
About the only part of this mess she can’t be blamed for is the referendum itself. The hopeless position in which she now finds herself, however, is entirely of her own making. |
It’s not a hopeless position. She’s on the verge of achieving exactly what she’s been told to do, keep the U.K. in the EU at all costs. |  |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:04 - Nov 27 with 4773 views | jack_lord |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:00 - Nov 27 by Highjack |
It’s not a hopeless position. She’s on the verge of achieving exactly what she’s been told to do, keep the U.K. in the EU at all costs. |
There's probably a very good reason for that. |  |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:05 - Nov 27 with 4772 views | exiledclaseboy |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:00 - Nov 27 by Highjack |
It’s not a hopeless position. She’s on the verge of achieving exactly what she’s been told to do, keep the U.K. in the EU at all costs. |
Yeah I keep telling you that’s bollocks but you can’t keep a good conspiracy theory down so you have at it. | |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:07 - Nov 27 with 4767 views | jack_lord |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:05 - Nov 27 by exiledclaseboy |
Yeah I keep telling you that’s bollocks but you can’t keep a good conspiracy theory down so you have at it. |
Andrew, what do you think the chances are that Britain will still be in the EU this time next year? | |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:13 - Nov 27 with 4754 views | Highjack |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:05 - Nov 27 by exiledclaseboy |
Yeah I keep telling you that’s bollocks but you can’t keep a good conspiracy theory down so you have at it. |
It’s the only explanation based on observable evidence. | |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:15 - Nov 27 with 4751 views | exiledclaseboy |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:07 - Nov 27 by jack_lord |
Andrew, what do you think the chances are that Britain will still be in the EU this time next year? |
Zero. Unless things move very quickly in the next few weeks. It’ll need a change in the law to stop the exit and those things don’t happen quickly especially when there’s no majority in Parliament for anything at the moment. It’s an absolute clusterf*ck. I still think the current deal will find its way through Parliament. Probably on the second attempt. [Post edited 27 Nov 2018 20:19]
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:19 - Nov 27 with 4747 views | exiledclaseboy |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:13 - Nov 27 by Highjack |
It’s the only explanation based on observable evidence. |
What observable evidence? That there was a referendum which resulted in a vote to leave? That the government them started that process and enshrined the time amd date of leaving in U.K. law? That two years have been spent negotiating that exit?
Yeah I can see how you got to that conclusion. | |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 20:49 - Nov 27 with 4722 views | Catullus |
| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 19:20 - Nov 27 by exiledclaseboy |
I don’t agree that she didn’t create it. Ok, she didn’t call the referendum but she’s the one who took over as PM spouting inane “Brexit means Brexit” and “red, white and blue Brexit” platitudes. She’s the one who invoked Article 50 without having any kind of coherent strategy for what happens next. She’s the one who set unustainable amd unachievable “red lines” at the start of the negotiation process to appease the swivel eyed loons on the hard right of her party. She’s the one who called an unnecessary general election and then proceeded to oversee the worst campaign in modern history to blow a 20 point lead and an existing overall majority in the Commons.
About the only part of this mess she can’t be blamed for is the referendum itself. The hopeless position in which she now finds herself, however, is entirely of her own making. |
Now I would argue Cameron created the mess by calling the referendum when there was no plan in place in case of a leave vote.
May had nothing to look to, nothing to fall back on, true she didn't help herself but then, who in the party helped her? They were all to busy fighting each other and arguing over the result.
It wasn't just the leavers she was trying to appease, it was the remainers too, she's had Hammond contradicting her at every opportunity, it can't have been easy.
I would say she almost ran the worst campaign in modern history because she still managed to beat Corbyn, he did slightly worse because any decent opposition campaign should have blown her completely away. That strong and stable BS she spouted, she became a parody of herself.
Without Cameron calling the referendum none of this mess would have happened. Indeed if Cameron had done a better job of negotiating his new deal he might even have put remain in a winning position. Instead he came back spouting platitudes and gave leave more ammo. Calling the referendum made all of this mess possible. | |
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| May vs Corbyn TV debate on 21:11 - Nov 27 with 4704 views | builthjack |
She was in Builth today and didn't answer a single question, deflected every one of them.
180 police officers, a lot with guns, walking around the showground. How much did that cost the taxpayer ? In and out by hecilopter too. [Post edited 27 Nov 2018 21:22]
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