| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread 19:47 - May 14 with 122776 views | TheKirkyLife |
Since our Premier League survival is now confirmed I thought it was about time that we look positively to the future for those legendary £5 million Jenkins' Specials. Who knows? We may even spend £10 million on individual players. I'll be updating the thread with every transfer rumour I come across. Feel free to read, discuss and so forth.
First entry is the bi-annual "is Bony coming home?" rumour. The Daily Mail reports that City are ready to sell for £15 million with us and the Hammers ready to start negotiations.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4503498/West-Ham-Swansea-Wilfr |  | | |  |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 10:40 - Jul 27 with 4362 views | Kerouac |
So the Barrow deal fell through...
It is worrying that we can't seem to shift dead wood.
If we sell Siggy early next week we will have less than 2 weeks left until the start of the season and only 1 senior squad place left to fill.
Yes, I know, we can sign 3/4 players who we want and not register some of the dead wood...hoping to sell or loan them out before the start of the season...but that represents a big risk.
If we are stuck with several players earning Premier League wages who are not contributing to the match day squad we will be literally pissing our money away Monk-era style.
We need to sell (or at least loan out);
- Jefferson Montero,
- Modou Barrow,
- Ki Seung-Yeung,
- Mike Van der Hoorn / Kyle Bartley
We need to loan out (and get the wages covered);
- Stephen Kingsley
- Jay Fulton
- Matt Grimes
- Oliver McBurnie
- Kristoffer Nordfeldt
On top of that the following players contribute next to f*ck all these days;
- Angel Rangel
- Nathan Dyer
- Wayne Routledge
...and we need;
- Andy Yiadom (or equivalent)
- Holger Badstuber (or equivalent)
- Jack Wilshere (or equivalent...I'm hoping for somebody more in the Chalobah mold)
- A proper winger
- Possible replacement for Siggy
- Possible replacement for Llorente
What the f*ck is going on?
We are running out of time here |  |
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| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 11:04 - Jul 27 with 4307 views | Swan91 |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 10:40 - Jul 27 by Kerouac |
So the Barrow deal fell through...
It is worrying that we can't seem to shift dead wood.
If we sell Siggy early next week we will have less than 2 weeks left until the start of the season and only 1 senior squad place left to fill.
Yes, I know, we can sign 3/4 players who we want and not register some of the dead wood...hoping to sell or loan them out before the start of the season...but that represents a big risk.
If we are stuck with several players earning Premier League wages who are not contributing to the match day squad we will be literally pissing our money away Monk-era style.
We need to sell (or at least loan out);
- Jefferson Montero,
- Modou Barrow,
- Ki Seung-Yeung,
- Mike Van der Hoorn / Kyle Bartley
We need to loan out (and get the wages covered);
- Stephen Kingsley
- Jay Fulton
- Matt Grimes
- Oliver McBurnie
- Kristoffer Nordfeldt
On top of that the following players contribute next to f*ck all these days;
- Angel Rangel
- Nathan Dyer
- Wayne Routledge
...and we need;
- Andy Yiadom (or equivalent)
- Holger Badstuber (or equivalent)
- Jack Wilshere (or equivalent...I'm hoping for somebody more in the Chalobah mold)
- A proper winger
- Possible replacement for Siggy
- Possible replacement for Llorente
What the f*ck is going on?
We are running out of time here |
Stephen Kingsley will stay and be back up for olsson
Ki Seung-Yeung won't leave and we will use him when he recovers.
Oliver McBurnie won't leave.. unless we sign another striker
if one defender leaves i want it to be VDH... BArtley will be a good squad player
Dyer is injured.. hence why he isn't contributing.. I think PC will have plans for him when he recovers though.
Rangel... he will stay here and be back up.. even if we sign a RB he will stay.. will most likely take up a coaching role.
so that's 6 of those players you suggest should leave... which in reality will stay in our squad. |  | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 11:08 - Jul 27 with 4298 views | Al_Bundy |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 10:40 - Jul 27 by Kerouac |
So the Barrow deal fell through...
It is worrying that we can't seem to shift dead wood.
If we sell Siggy early next week we will have less than 2 weeks left until the start of the season and only 1 senior squad place left to fill.
Yes, I know, we can sign 3/4 players who we want and not register some of the dead wood...hoping to sell or loan them out before the start of the season...but that represents a big risk.
If we are stuck with several players earning Premier League wages who are not contributing to the match day squad we will be literally pissing our money away Monk-era style.
We need to sell (or at least loan out);
- Jefferson Montero,
- Modou Barrow,
- Ki Seung-Yeung,
- Mike Van der Hoorn / Kyle Bartley
We need to loan out (and get the wages covered);
- Stephen Kingsley
- Jay Fulton
- Matt Grimes
- Oliver McBurnie
- Kristoffer Nordfeldt
On top of that the following players contribute next to f*ck all these days;
- Angel Rangel
- Nathan Dyer
- Wayne Routledge
...and we need;
- Andy Yiadom (or equivalent)
- Holger Badstuber (or equivalent)
- Jack Wilshere (or equivalent...I'm hoping for somebody more in the Chalobah mold)
- A proper winger
- Possible replacement for Siggy
- Possible replacement for Llorente
What the f*ck is going on?
We are running out of time here |
You suggesting we ship out 13 players ?
I saw your comment on loaning out Kingsley.. then thought we will have no back up for LB.. | | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 11:58 - Jul 27 with 4228 views | Kerouac |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 11:08 - Jul 27 by Al_Bundy |
You suggesting we ship out 13 players ?
I saw your comment on loaning out Kingsley.. then thought we will have no back up for LB.. |
I'm suggesting we sell 4, try to loan out 5 and pointed out that 3 don't contribute much (as in, another reason why we need to get on with drumming up transfer money, freeing up wages and getting in quality....because our squad lacks quality).
I count on my list 10 players from the 25 who are either not good enough or contribute next to f*ck all due to a mixture of injury and age.
Leaving us with 15 viable 1st team starters...16 including Tammy Abraham.
We need at least 4 more players who will challenge for a 1st team place (and that's not taking into consideration Siggy and Llorente possibly leaving) if we are to have a strong squad with genuine competition for a place....shipping players out to free up wages and generate money for the transfer pot is part and parcel of making that happen.
My thoughts on Kingsley:
- We should have 4 full-backs in a squad 1 of whom can be a youngster we are developing...the other 3 taking up starting spots and 1 place on the bench.
- So at the start of the season say we have Naughton on the right, Olsson on the left and Yiadom on the bench.
Or, Jenkinson on the right, Olsson on the left and Naughton on the bench etc.
The point being that the guy on the bench should be able to cover both right-back, left-back and provide stiff enough competition to possibly take someone's spot...
where does that leave Kingsley?
In the reserves is where that leaves Kingsley.
- Kingsley isn't ready to start in the Prem regularly. He needs to play regular Championship football for a season in order that he should develop (and increase his transfer value).
What about Rangel I hear people say...he is finished. We cannot rely on him even for a few weeks in the Premier League anymore. He will cost us valuable points.
Yes he should stick around and get a role at the club, I just can't take the idea that he provides any meaningful cover at right-back seriously.
He is the reason we desperately need a high quality full-back to join (preferably right sided as we know Naughton can be good cover on the right and the left).
If we don't get this sorted and go into the season with Rangel and Kingsley as the cover we will deserve what is coming to us. | |
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| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 12:32 - Jul 27 with 4132 views | tomdickharry |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 11:04 - Jul 27 by Swan91 |
Stephen Kingsley will stay and be back up for olsson
Ki Seung-Yeung won't leave and we will use him when he recovers.
Oliver McBurnie won't leave.. unless we sign another striker
if one defender leaves i want it to be VDH... BArtley will be a good squad player
Dyer is injured.. hence why he isn't contributing.. I think PC will have plans for him when he recovers though.
Rangel... he will stay here and be back up.. even if we sign a RB he will stay.. will most likely take up a coaching role.
so that's 6 of those players you suggest should leave... which in reality will stay in our squad. |
Spot on.
The official silence emanating from the club in respect of transfers both in/out has reached an all time high. | | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 11:01 - Jul 28 with 3853 views | Swans_16 |
I think we've signed Badstuber, or at least intend to on the 1st August.
Seems too quiet on the front for nothing to be happening for such a defender.
Also just linked with Negredo. [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 12:13]
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| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 12:18 - Jul 28 with 3779 views | Swansea93 |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 11:01 - Jul 28 by Swans_16 |
I think we've signed Badstuber, or at least intend to on the 1st August.
Seems too quiet on the front for nothing to be happening for such a defender.
Also just linked with Negredo. [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 12:13]
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How do you think this about Badstuber? | |
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| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 12:19 - Jul 28 with 3777 views | Swans_16 |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 12:18 - Jul 28 by Swansea93 |
How do you think this about Badstuber? |
PC knows him better than anyone and vice-versa, and he's been out of contract for over a month nearly. Only us could leave something so last minute, with news so quiet on his movements across the internet. | | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 12:38 - Jul 28 with 3725 views | ThurrockJack92 |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 12:19 - Jul 28 by Swans_16 |
PC knows him better than anyone and vice-versa, and he's been out of contract for over a month nearly. Only us could leave something so last minute, with news so quiet on his movements across the internet. |
That is quite a leap. Ever thought of competing in the long jump for team GB? |  | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 12:39 - Jul 28 with 3714 views | Swans_16 |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 12:38 - Jul 28 by ThurrockJack92 |
That is quite a leap. Ever thought of competing in the long jump for team GB? |
Many a time mate. | | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 16:39 - Jul 30 with 3458 views | Kerouac |
What do people think of Leandro Bacuna?
He can play right-back and right-wing and is available for £2m - £2.5m.
Can't say I took much notice of him when Villa were in the Prem but he seems to be rated in some quarters. | |
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| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 16:47 - Jul 30 with 3402 views | magicdaps10 |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 16:39 - Jul 30 by Kerouac |
What do people think of Leandro Bacuna?
He can play right-back and right-wing and is available for £2m - £2.5m.
Can't say I took much notice of him when Villa were in the Prem but he seems to be rated in some quarters. |
Please tell me that you are joking!?! |  |
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| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 16:53 - Jul 30 with 3366 views | Al_Bundy |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 10:40 - Jul 27 by Kerouac |
So the Barrow deal fell through...
It is worrying that we can't seem to shift dead wood.
If we sell Siggy early next week we will have less than 2 weeks left until the start of the season and only 1 senior squad place left to fill.
Yes, I know, we can sign 3/4 players who we want and not register some of the dead wood...hoping to sell or loan them out before the start of the season...but that represents a big risk.
If we are stuck with several players earning Premier League wages who are not contributing to the match day squad we will be literally pissing our money away Monk-era style.
We need to sell (or at least loan out);
- Jefferson Montero,
- Modou Barrow,
- Ki Seung-Yeung,
- Mike Van der Hoorn / Kyle Bartley
We need to loan out (and get the wages covered);
- Stephen Kingsley
- Jay Fulton
- Matt Grimes
- Oliver McBurnie
- Kristoffer Nordfeldt
On top of that the following players contribute next to f*ck all these days;
- Angel Rangel
- Nathan Dyer
- Wayne Routledge
...and we need;
- Andy Yiadom (or equivalent)
- Holger Badstuber (or equivalent)
- Jack Wilshere (or equivalent...I'm hoping for somebody more in the Chalobah mold)
- A proper winger
- Possible replacement for Siggy
- Possible replacement for Llorente
What the f*ck is going on?
We are running out of time here |
We can shift Barrow if we want.. but the club thinks he's worth more that Readings bid. | | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 16:55 - Jul 30 with 3355 views | Al_Bundy |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 11:01 - Jul 28 by Swans_16 |
I think we've signed Badstuber, or at least intend to on the 1st August.
Seems too quiet on the front for nothing to be happening for such a defender.
Also just linked with Negredo. [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 12:13]
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What makes you think we will sign Badstuber? | | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 00:32 - Jul 31 with 2971 views | Kerouac |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 16:47 - Jul 30 by magicdaps10 |
Please tell me that you are joking!?! |
Ha!
That bad?
I can't say I really noticed him when he was at Villa.
Heard he was quick and strong and able to play in a few positions...quick glance on the Villa forum shows they can't wait to get rid of him so I guess you're right. | |
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| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 00:39 - Aug 4 with 2732 views | Kerouac |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 16:53 - Jul 30 by Al_Bundy |
We can shift Barrow if we want.. but the club thinks he's worth more that Readings bid. |
Guess they paid up...
The 'Brynnie's Long Lost Cock and Balls Memorial' update on,
"Where we are at"...
* = Home grown (Current total = 9)
** = Young enough not to be registered in the 25
Ins
Tammy Abraham (Loan)
Roque Mesa - £11m
Erwin Mulder - Free
Total = £11m in transfer fees and 1 & 1/2 x 1st team squad players wages.
Outs
Keston Davies (Loan - Yeovil)
Connor Roberts (Loan - Middlesboro)
Daniel James (Loan - Shrewsbury)
Jordi Amat (Loan - Real Betis)
Borja Baston (Loan - Malaga)
Bafetimbi Gomis - £2.5m
Marvin Emnes - Free
Gerhard Tremmel - Free
Franck Tabannou - Paid him off
Jack Cork - £8-10m
Modou Barrow - £1.5m
Total = £12m-14m in transfer fees and 6 & 1/2 first team squad players wages.
THE SQUAD
(Currently 25 senior players on our books who can realistically expect a game)
Goalkeepers
1) Lukasz Fabianski
2) Kristoffer Nordfeldt
3) Erwin Mulder
Right-Back
4) Kyle Naughton *
5) Angel Rangel
Left-Back
6) Martin Olsson *
7) Stephen Kingsley
Centre-Back
8) Federico Fernandez
9) Alfie Mawson *
10) Mike Van der Hoorn
11) Kyle Bartley *
Centre Midfield
12) Leon Britton * (Defensive Midfielder)
13) Roque Mesa (Defensive Midfielder)
14) Jay Fulton (Defensive Midfielder)
15) Leroy Fer (Box to Box Midfielder)
16) Tom Carroll * (Playmaker)
17) Ki (Playmaker)
Attacking Midfield
18) Gylfi Siggurdsson *
Right-Wing
19) Jordan Ayew (/Striker)
20) Luciano Narsingh
21) Nathan Dyer *
Left-Wing
22) Jefferson Montero
23) Wayne Routledge *
Striker
24) Fernando Llorente (Target man)
25) Tammy Abraham ** (Poacher)
Youngsters with a chance
Oliver McBurnie ** (Target man)
Kenji Gorre ** (Attacking Midfielder)
Adam King ** (Midfielder)
Gregor Zabret ** (Goalkeeper)
New Youngsters
Cian Harries ** (Defender)
Arnor Gudjohnsen ** (Midfielder...only 16)
Kees de Boer ** (Defensive Midfielder...17)
George Thomas? ** (Midfielder/Striker)
What are they doing here picking up wages
Mark Birighitti (Goalkeeper...26!) | |
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| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 00:58 - Aug 4 with 2703 views | Kerouac |
So this window we are a few mill up on transfer fees
and
I make it roughly £7-9m up on the annual wage budget.
...and we now have 1 squad place to fill.
SURELY we can spend now on Ryad Boudebouz...if he wanted £50k/wk that would = £3m/yr
+ a transfer fee of around £7m.
Don't tell me we can't afford it!
We can get a right-back and a no.10 in when we sell Siggy.
...and after Siggy goes, Montero SELL, SELL, SELL (and finally get a proper left-winger, with an actual left foot)
...oh my days I've come over all feint, we couldn't actually become a good football team again could we?
Well could we? | |
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| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 05:41 - Aug 4 with 2614 views | TheKirkyLife |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 00:58 - Aug 4 by Kerouac |
So this window we are a few mill up on transfer fees
and
I make it roughly £7-9m up on the annual wage budget.
...and we now have 1 squad place to fill.
SURELY we can spend now on Ryad Boudebouz...if he wanted £50k/wk that would = £3m/yr
+ a transfer fee of around £7m.
Don't tell me we can't afford it!
We can get a right-back and a no.10 in when we sell Siggy.
...and after Siggy goes, Montero SELL, SELL, SELL (and finally get a proper left-winger, with an actual left foot)
...oh my days I've come over all feint, we couldn't actually become a good football team again could we?
Well could we? |
I have a funny feeling the pieces are slotting into place.
Gylfi goes with money and the young lad coming to other way.
With money in hand we match the buyout clause for Viera as the new attacking midfielder.
We could yet also spend on Chadli/Yiadom but doubt Boudebouz will happen if Viera's coming in. | | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 06:01 - Aug 4 with 2588 views | Zut_Alors |
It's chess isn't it. We want the money from Everton, and signing obvious replacements first weakens our hand. However, by waiting until the deal is done we show selling clubs that we have cash to throw around.
For me, the concerning cost to all this is the lack of a pre-season these players (Siggy or the replacements) will have. We can't afford to wait until october before we're picking up points. |  | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 06:24 - Aug 4 with 2561 views | Whiterockin |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 06:01 - Aug 4 by Zut_Alors |
It's chess isn't it. We want the money from Everton, and signing obvious replacements first weakens our hand. However, by waiting until the deal is done we show selling clubs that we have cash to throw around.
For me, the concerning cost to all this is the lack of a pre-season these players (Siggy or the replacements) will have. We can't afford to wait until october before we're picking up points. |
Not ideal but still a lot better than 4 weeks later. I will just be glad to get it all done now, IF WE SPEND THE MONEY. |  | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 08:58 - Aug 4 with 2371 views | exiledinenglandjack |
New name thrown into the mix is Adrian Lopez from Porto. Has Spanish caps and is 29 years old but didn't really impress on loan at Villarreal last year | | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 10:17 - Aug 4 with 2273 views | Swans_16 |
Looks like a load of crap.
Goalscoring record is anything but prolific to say the least. | | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 10:20 - Aug 4 with 2262 views | costalotta |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 06:24 - Aug 4 by Whiterockin |
Not ideal but still a lot better than 4 weeks later. I will just be glad to get it all done now, IF WE SPEND THE MONEY. |
It ain't so bad... October is better than starting in January! |  | | |
| Kirky's Transfer Rumour Mill Thread on 10:22 - Aug 4 with 2257 views | Swans_16 |
Just goes to prove how significant this 1st August thing must have been for a club of our stature ...
Nonetheless, at least we'll be getting £50 million to put into the squad (hopefully). | | | |
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