| What have we learnt? 19:11 - Apr 17 with 3693 views | connell10 |
Since the rotherham what with all the changes in team personal , diffrent formations, players playing in completely diffrent postions what have we learnt? Im throwing this question out to all the tactics experts on here , who know about all these techincal things! Im just a fan who wants to see my team win and i aint got a scoobys whats going on! |  |
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| What have we learnt? on 11:16 - Apr 18 with 624 views | Hunterhoop |
| What have we learnt? on 09:51 - Apr 18 by WadR |
It was Hall and Caulker against Newcastle. Lynch didn't play.
That's not to say I disagree with you. I rate Onuoha and Hall as our best two centrehalves.
I think with a defence, the most important thing is continuity of shape and selection. Especially at this level. We've played umpteen different defensive formations, with umpteen different permutations of players - often changing them several times within the same game, so it's hardly a surprise we can't keep a clean sheet.
I think we've learnt in recent games that Ollie needs to decide if he wants to play 4 or 5 at the back next season and stick with it for a prolonged period. We had success January through March playing that 5-3-2/4-3-3 because, although it was a little reactive, it had a clear shape and game plan the players could execute.
If Holloway wants to play 5 at the back, I think you've got to question a) Do we have the wingbacks for it? b) Are our centrebacks comfortable enough on the ball to play it? Personally, I think the answer to a) is no and b) a borderline yes. Bidwell doesn't have the acceleration or consistent crossing ability to be an asset at wing back - he had success dovetailing with Shodipo earlier in the season and I think he needs a winger in front of him as he just doesn't have the deftness to be an attacking threat as a winger. Perch isn't a wingback, Furlong may develop into one - but I think he's certainly more of a fullback as things stand and too early to say about Robinson.
I don't mind experimentation, but I think we're handicapping ourselves by playing so many different systems in different (or even the same) games. Best teams at this level - Brighton, Huddersfield, Fulham, Newcastle - play with a pretty consistent shape game to game. |
Good correction, WadR. All the drink is addling my memory.
Agree with what you say. I think our full backs, our forwards and our central midfielders are crying out for some wingers to play so they have an out ball, and better delivery into the box. |  | | |
| What have we learnt? on 12:12 - Apr 18 with 585 views | simmo |
| What have we learnt? on 11:16 - Apr 18 by Hunterhoop |
Good correction, WadR. All the drink is addling my memory.
Agree with what you say. I think our full backs, our forwards and our central midfielders are crying out for some wingers to play so they have an out ball, and better delivery into the box. |
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----------------Smithies-----------------
Furs-------Chief----Hall-------Bidwell
-----------Luongo--Manning----------
Wzolek------------------------Freeman
---------------Smith Wash--------------
2)
----------------Smithies-----------------
Furs-------Chief----Hall-------Bidwell
-----------Luongo--Manning----------
Wzolek-------Freeman----Ngbokoto
----------------Smith -------------------- |  |
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| What have we learnt? on 17:20 - Apr 18 with 511 views | derbyhoop |
I suspect we learnt more from Monday than any of the previous 3 or 4 games. If we write off Caulker, and I think that's a given, we are short of numbers at CB and do not have adequate cover for Furlong at RB. There were only 3 defenders missing Monday. So, unless Finney or Paul can step up, we may need to sign a CB and another RB.
Put away the pitchforks, but we will need Perch's versatility, so he should be offered a new deal.
I also think we look light up front. Smith, Sylla and Washington are OK but we need at least one more. |  |
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| What have we learnt? on 17:38 - Apr 18 with 504 views | Hunterhoop |
| What have we learnt? on 12:12 - Apr 18 by simmo |
1)
----------------Smithies-----------------
Furs-------Chief----Hall-------Bidwell
-----------Luongo--Manning----------
Wzolek------------------------Freeman
---------------Smith Wash--------------
2)
----------------Smithies-----------------
Furs-------Chief----Hall-------Bidwell
-----------Luongo--Manning----------
Wzolek-------Freeman----Ngbokoto
----------------Smith -------------------- |
YES!
These are the two shapes and personnel I'd be exploring now. Slightly prefer 1 over 2, with Freeman a little tucked in . | | | |
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