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Why would you want to kick the Scots out of the Union Pom when they already want out? Why is May seeking to block them when they offer so little to contribute to the UK economy and if anything cost England a small fortune? Why is May standing in there way? Surely a strong, intelligent and capable leader would just say ok off you fck. Like Brexit Sctosxit is scotsxit surely, or are the English Welshing?
Good luck with relocating Faslane to the Liverpool docks too, still plenty of jobs to go around. Surely a win win.
Sin Fein seeking out too, there's a small risk of course that will trigger a new 300 year war with Irish Republicans and the Welsh want out to. The Good Friday Agreement ratified by both countries seems to allow NI to remain in the eu if UK leaves. Oh dear.
Give it a decade and Normal for Norfolk will be Westminster Policy and the most feared Regiment in the British Army will be the Dorset Dancing Morris Men.
But carry on, all's rosey post Brexit. Send in the clowns. Oh hang on....
[Post edited 14 Mar 2017 13:23]
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we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 15:17 - Mar 14 with 7001 views
Personally I would like May to delay any referendum until after Brexit to let them sweat a bit, say let them have their game in 2020. But, tell them that referendum 2 also means the end of the Barnett Formula whatever the outcome. Might start to concentrate their minds a bit more, certainly would see the end of free university and prescriptions.
we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 22:45 - Mar 14 by DWQPR
Personally I would like May to delay any referendum until after Brexit to let them sweat a bit, say let them have their game in 2020. But, tell them that referendum 2 also means the end of the Barnett Formula whatever the outcome. Might start to concentrate their minds a bit more, certainly would see the end of free university and prescriptions.
More likely to see Edinburgh usurp London and NYC as the worlds financial Centre. EU would gladly take them in on a Prestrige Euro city alone for bankers. I dont think London knows how fcked it is.
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we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 00:05 - Mar 15 with 6710 views
we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 23:50 - Mar 14 by Brightonhoop
More likely to see Edinburgh usurp London and NYC as the worlds financial Centre. EU would gladly take them in on a Prestrige Euro city alone for bankers. I dont think London knows how fcked it is.
Whatever your business is Brighton, it isn't Business.
we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 23:50 - Mar 14 by Brightonhoop
More likely to see Edinburgh usurp London and NYC as the worlds financial Centre. EU would gladly take them in on a Prestrige Euro city alone for bankers. I dont think London knows how fcked it is.
Your having a laugh Jim. Standard Life has previously said they would move south if the Scots left. As for London, in the last six weeks alone both Deutsche Bank and Unicredit has used the City of London to raise debt. London will more than survive outside the EU. As for Scotland they will never return to the EU, Spanish alone will see to that. They will be a country without a currency, will need to raise funding quickly on back of no previous credit and currently run a deficit much higher than the rest of the U.K. Oh, and I won't hold my breath for the day that oil returns to above $60 a barrel. Ten years time we will all be driving electric cars OPEC know this and will start pumping the black stuff as quick as possible as they know they are on a schedule of diminishing returns.
we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 13:19 - Mar 14 by Brightonhoop
Why would you want to kick the Scots out of the Union Pom when they already want out? Why is May seeking to block them when they offer so little to contribute to the UK economy and if anything cost England a small fortune? Why is May standing in there way? Surely a strong, intelligent and capable leader would just say ok off you fck. Like Brexit Sctosxit is scotsxit surely, or are the English Welshing?
Good luck with relocating Faslane to the Liverpool docks too, still plenty of jobs to go around. Surely a win win.
Sin Fein seeking out too, there's a small risk of course that will trigger a new 300 year war with Irish Republicans and the Welsh want out to. The Good Friday Agreement ratified by both countries seems to allow NI to remain in the eu if UK leaves. Oh dear.
Give it a decade and Normal for Norfolk will be Westminster Policy and the most feared Regiment in the British Army will be the Dorset Dancing Morris Men.
But carry on, all's rosey post Brexit. Send in the clowns. Oh hang on....
[Post edited 14 Mar 2017 13:23]
The answer to your question is to take back the initiative and actually get rid of them rather than just leaving it to chance. If they don't go now the issue will fester for decades, draining financial and intellectual resources for no good reason. Scotland is a busted flush with oil in its last decade or two and scotch a declining market.
As for your preposterous suggestion that Edinburgh be a world financial centre, words fail me.
Brighton, you are getting addled by to much sun and too many barking dogs.
Best wishes,
Pom
Currently residing in Pinner, Centre of the Universe.
At this stage of the game I'm not sure why, as individuals, we shouldn't be able to legally choose whether to stay onboard this particular boat. I'm not sure what the argument would be against people now being given a one-off chance to either accept what looks like it will be an English passport, or to take some other kind of citizenship.
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we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 11:02 - Mar 15 with 6334 views
I admired the cheek of Sturgeon calling for Indyref2 on the day Parliament finally approved the Article 50 legislation. I also think it is quite clever to call for it to occur, after the negotiations, but before the UK leaves the EU.
I'm not convinced that the Scots would vote for independence. If anything, the economics have moved against the SNP since 2014. Against that, is the way that Theresa May has sidelined the devolved governments, generating considerable resentment.
Ireland provides a completely different case. The implications of Brexit for the Irish border seems to be an impossible task to reconcile. Border control in the North will come up against freedom of movement in the South. However, there isn't yet a decisive push towards a United Ireland. I wouldn't rule out that happening in my lifetime, though.
The referendum has proved unbelievably divisive and I think the Union of 4 nations is under greater pressure than ever before.
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we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 12:55 - Mar 15 with 6205 views
Always laugh at these threads, Brighton is typical - doesn't choose to live in England but gets affronted by some calling for a democratic choice to leave! Couldn't make it up, just waiting for Timcocking to throw in his xenophobic tuppence worth. We could also wait for the lad who used to post on here slagging off the sponging sweaties? Problem is he lives in Orkney now so I don't suppose that argument holds water anymore haha what a f#cling joke! The fact is the SE of England is the economic powerhouse of the economy but all the outlying areas have become nursing homes for your old relatives, if any of you can honestly say you don't have retired relatives who moved somewhere quieter and cheaper to live yet use the local services in a nett negative balance to their financial input then in my eyes you can shut up about subsidising us, we're overloaded with retired people with money buying up property and putting little wealth into the economy so how can we be nett providers to the economy? It's a a UK problem and until people lose the greed of blaming all their ills on so called spongers it won't be cured and disadvantaged areas will look for alternative answers
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we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 17:27 - Mar 15 with 6050 views
we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 07:22 - Mar 15 by pomanjou
The answer to your question is to take back the initiative and actually get rid of them rather than just leaving it to chance. If they don't go now the issue will fester for decades, draining financial and intellectual resources for no good reason. Scotland is a busted flush with oil in its last decade or two and scotch a declining market.
As for your preposterous suggestion that Edinburgh be a world financial centre, words fail me.
Brighton, you are getting addled by to much sun and too many barking dogs.
Best wishes,
Pom
haha We'll see. If Scotalnd can get itself Independent and back into the EU in the next four to five years, an English speaking Capital City as a Finance centre could suddenly start to look attractive.
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we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 17:53 - Mar 15 with 5999 views
we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 17:27 - Mar 15 by Brightonhoop
haha We'll see. If Scotalnd can get itself Independent and back into the EU in the next four to five years, an English speaking Capital City as a Finance centre could suddenly start to look attractive.
Do they not speak English in Dublin? Surely, if your theory is correct Dublin would be the obvious destination given it's already in the EU, rather than waiting for Edinburgh?
we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 17:56 - Mar 15 by DejR_vu
Do they not speak English in Dublin? Surely, if your theory is correct Dublin would be the obvious destination given it's already in the EU, rather than waiting for Edinburgh?
Yes to a point, but Edinburgh could well undercut Dublin and there is more prestige in Royal connections etc which Dublin cannot compete with. An Indy Scot in the EU is highly marketable.
@Karl, my children still live and work in the UK so why wouldn't I have a view despite living in Spain? I still pay taxes into the UK too and get fck all back. Stupid ignorant comment. Re the economy, the whole thing now rely on Banks in the City and Canary Wharf and they are busy making plans to exit post Brexit. The economic contraction for the UK or whatever remains of it, is going to be one heck of a shock. Which will be a disaster for the population old and young.
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we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 18:16 - Mar 15 with 5954 views
we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 17:14 - Mar 15 by karl
Always laugh at these threads, Brighton is typical - doesn't choose to live in England but gets affronted by some calling for a democratic choice to leave! Couldn't make it up, just waiting for Timcocking to throw in his xenophobic tuppence worth. We could also wait for the lad who used to post on here slagging off the sponging sweaties? Problem is he lives in Orkney now so I don't suppose that argument holds water anymore haha what a f#cling joke! The fact is the SE of England is the economic powerhouse of the economy but all the outlying areas have become nursing homes for your old relatives, if any of you can honestly say you don't have retired relatives who moved somewhere quieter and cheaper to live yet use the local services in a nett negative balance to their financial input then in my eyes you can shut up about subsidising us, we're overloaded with retired people with money buying up property and putting little wealth into the economy so how can we be nett providers to the economy? It's a a UK problem and until people lose the greed of blaming all their ills on so called spongers it won't be cured and disadvantaged areas will look for alternative answers
What local services??? There's phoook hall here in West Norfolk. I live in a village where all the shops and pubs within three miles have closed, as has the post office. Marples and Beeching did for the train services, so there's the A47 single lane road full of lorries. Doctors appointments are a month ahead, there's no crime because there's phook hall to nick, and the local criminals can't be arsed to steal anymore.
I grow my own veg, the meat is roadkill. The nearest local is three miles away on a bike and there they offer fantastic real ales at £3 a pint, 3 course Sunday lunch at £11.
And yes, most people living here are retired from the South East and other well off areas who have downsized and are living on a pension which they grafted for. All we get is the bins emptied every other week.
Do you know what? I quite foooking like it like that. And we cost bugger all to run.
Why does it feel like R'SWiPe is still on the books? Yer Couldn't Make It Up.Well Done Me!
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we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 18:39 - Mar 15 with 5917 views
we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 18:11 - Mar 15 by Brightonhoop
Yes to a point, but Edinburgh could well undercut Dublin and there is more prestige in Royal connections etc which Dublin cannot compete with. An Indy Scot in the EU is highly marketable.
@Karl, my children still live and work in the UK so why wouldn't I have a view despite living in Spain? I still pay taxes into the UK too and get fck all back. Stupid ignorant comment. Re the economy, the whole thing now rely on Banks in the City and Canary Wharf and they are busy making plans to exit post Brexit. The economic contraction for the UK or whatever remains of it, is going to be one heck of a shock. Which will be a disaster for the population old and young.
Never mentioned taxes
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we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 18:51 - Mar 15 with 5895 views
we have a timetable for Brexit, should there be a referendum for the English on 18:11 - Mar 15 by Brightonhoop
Yes to a point, but Edinburgh could well undercut Dublin and there is more prestige in Royal connections etc which Dublin cannot compete with. An Indy Scot in the EU is highly marketable.
@Karl, my children still live and work in the UK so why wouldn't I have a view despite living in Spain? I still pay taxes into the UK too and get fck all back. Stupid ignorant comment. Re the economy, the whole thing now rely on Banks in the City and Canary Wharf and they are busy making plans to exit post Brexit. The economic contraction for the UK or whatever remains of it, is going to be one heck of a shock. Which will be a disaster for the population old and young.
Jim, you pay taxes in the UK because it is in your interests, as the tax system is more beneficial than the Spanish tax system. The Spanish government could argue that they get fck all from you whilst providing a country to live in. Opt to pay your taxes in Spain then you can get rid of your resentment of not getting your value for money from the UK.
And I am still laughing at your suggestion that Edinburgh could become the replacement for London. Check on the internet about Deutsche Bank and Unicredit raising debt in London, surely especially for Deutsche Bank the financial centre of choice given that London is about to implode would be Frankfurt? Makes sense doesn't it.
Scotland will never return to the EU, even the SNP today are now thinking that is the likelihood. Spain wont let them and reading today it is unlikely Belgium would or Greece. The best that they could achieve would be EFTA. But then that would involve huge costs that they could not afford and free movement of people, which would then mean establishing a proper border north of Hadrians Wall. Scotland is becoming a financial mess at the hands of the SNP and their one aim manifesto.
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