| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:02 - Feb 3 with 1758 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 19:57 - Feb 3 by blueytheblue |
Indeed, ECB. You do have to admit though that regardless of political leanings, the Guardian has a higher ratio of "up own arse" columnist article headings than other papers. |
Previous post applies. Will depend entirely on your perspective. I tend to avoid the ones I don't like as I do from other papers, apart from some Mail/Express columnists for comedy value. I do realise though that some people like to read things just so they can vehemently disagree with them. |  |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:06 - Feb 3 with 1754 views | Darran |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:02 - Feb 3 by exiledclaseboy |
Previous post applies. Will depend entirely on your perspective. I tend to avoid the ones I don't like as I do from other papers, apart from some Mail/Express columnists for comedy value. I do realise though that some people like to read things just so they can vehemently disagree with them. |
You do get some decent stories in the Guardian from time to time.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/21/cheap-trick-we-got-asked-to-play-f |  |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:15 - Feb 3 with 1747 views | swanjackal |
Well you could have at least linked to one |  |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:16 - Feb 3 with 1744 views | Darran |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:15 - Feb 3 by swanjackal |
Well you could have at least linked to one |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:24 - Feb 3 with 1739 views | swanjackal |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:16 - Feb 3 by Darran |
Oof. |
I just seen I down arrowed the OP, didn't mean it. Must have hit it downscaling, only ever intentionally up arrow. | |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:28 - Feb 3 with 1734 views | Darran |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:24 - Feb 3 by swanjackal |
I just seen I down arrowed the OP, didn't mean it. Must have hit it downscaling, only ever intentionally up arrow. |
I don't take any notice of that bollox anyway.  | |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:29 - Feb 3 with 1731 views | swanjackal |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:28 - Feb 3 by Darran |
I don't take any notice of that bollox anyway. |
Just clarifying, just altered it. | |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:42 - Feb 3 with 1722 views | waynekerr55 |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 19:31 - Feb 3 by skippyjack |
I wonder if he has ever ventured into the German franchise known as Lidl's?.. I know people from London are scared to eat from such establishments.. I have had a nibble and drink at from both.. Lidl's has some uknowm gems.. waitrose churns out the same old garbage..
I'm surprised perchie hasn't put up his list of Friday delights yet.
As for the Guardian.. a newspaper full of agenda and hypocrisy.. just like every newspaper known to man.
The Dr's of 'real' journalism have simply given up with the new processed breed of incumbents taking their roles..
A bit like all you oldies running down the young bloods of this country.. screaming.. only if I was 40 years younger.. |
These people are scared?
No, just pompous 😂 |  |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:53 - Feb 3 with 1712 views | Loyal |
The guardian, the saviour of the real people's ideal.
Editor wants to legalise drugs ( but isn't too fussed on the current dealers )
Hates the old bill ( till the cnt wants them )
Refugees welcome ( but not in my backyard)
We hate Trump ( well it's the In thing to say )
No university charges ( well after all I need to buy drugs, not fund my kids to buy .... drugs )
Slags off bankers ( as they stash their 90k a year salaries in to .... banks )
Wants equal rights for people who already have them.
And - despises racism as the hundredth article of the week supporting Palestine flys off the press.
I hope they explode in their own filthy detritus.
Politics or maybe just poly tricks. |  |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:59 - Feb 3 with 1701 views | FieryJack |
Ah well, I only buy The Guardian once a week, on a Saturday, and, if I'm lucky, I finish it the following Friday.
Nowt any of you wind-bags have said on here has dissuaded me from doing the same tomorrow morning - once, that is, I've breakfasted on Icelandic yoghurt & blueberries, organic granola, toasted sourdough bread & a soft boiled egg.
Ain't life great?
By the way, I'd like to know which rags you lot read - so I can rag 'em! |  | | |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 22:39 - Feb 3 with 1674 views | Kerouac |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 20:59 - Feb 3 by FieryJack |
Ah well, I only buy The Guardian once a week, on a Saturday, and, if I'm lucky, I finish it the following Friday.
Nowt any of you wind-bags have said on here has dissuaded me from doing the same tomorrow morning - once, that is, I've breakfasted on Icelandic yoghurt & blueberries, organic granola, toasted sourdough bread & a soft boiled egg.
Ain't life great?
By the way, I'd like to know which rags you lot read - so I can rag 'em! |
I read 'The Guardian' occasionally, also; 'The Times', 'The I' (I used to read 'The Independent' more often than all the others), 'The Economist', 'Private Eye' and various tabloids (mostly online).
Variety is great, and I keep in mind at all times the perspective of those writing...but 'The Guardian' is without doubt the most pretentious and open to ridicule publication in the UK.
What I find so amusing, being from a working class background and of the "left", is the fact that 99% of Guardian writers are privately educated and from super privileged backgrounds...I should be their target audience, but the paper is basically one long sneer from people with a fantastic superiority complex.
You can't read it and not come away with the feeling that they don't like this country very much and can't stand the people they need to vote for the left.
They have causes, but the working class (the people I know and love) are not one of these causes...they would claim different, but in truth they just pay lip service to the interests of the working class in this country.
The causes they ARE passionate about usually put the paper directly at odds with the majority of us.
Silly, spoiled, sanctimonious, self absorbed, smug, toff, tw*ts. |  |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 23:11 - Feb 3 with 1659 views | FieryJack |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 22:39 - Feb 3 by Kerouac |
I read 'The Guardian' occasionally, also; 'The Times', 'The I' (I used to read 'The Independent' more often than all the others), 'The Economist', 'Private Eye' and various tabloids (mostly online).
Variety is great, and I keep in mind at all times the perspective of those writing...but 'The Guardian' is without doubt the most pretentious and open to ridicule publication in the UK.
What I find so amusing, being from a working class background and of the "left", is the fact that 99% of Guardian writers are privately educated and from super privileged backgrounds...I should be their target audience, but the paper is basically one long sneer from people with a fantastic superiority complex.
You can't read it and not come away with the feeling that they don't like this country very much and can't stand the people they need to vote for the left.
They have causes, but the working class (the people I know and love) are not one of these causes...they would claim different, but in truth they just pay lip service to the interests of the working class in this country.
The causes they ARE passionate about usually put the paper directly at odds with the majority of us.
Silly, spoiled, sanctimonious, self absorbed, smug, toff, tw*ts. |
Is the right answer.
Agree with just about all of that.
Working class background myself, so I get what you're saying. Find the Saturday magazine supplement especially irritating, where the "life-style" articles & advertising betray it's core audience: privileged, well-heeled, London-centric trendies - people I have nowt in common with.
A sweeping generalisation, I know.
Yes, I often blow a fuse when reading it & their restaurant critic enrages me so much I've given up reading her articles.
Still, the general drift of its opinions reflect mine, so I won't be giving up on it just yet. | | | |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 02:25 - Feb 4 with 1629 views | Highjack |
I like it myself. Soft, strong, and thoroughly absorbent. |  |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 02:58 - Feb 4 with 1622 views | AnotherJohn |
The Guardian was my paper of choice not so long ago, but I became totally disillusioned with its coverage of the refugee 'crisis' and then Brexit, as did many long-time readers. The final straw was first its online comments moderation policy, where most dissenting posts were removed, and then its overt censorship in simply scrapping online comments on these topics altogether. The rag now has an awful record as a purveyor of false news, for example on topics like Alan Kurdi, the claim that all three Stade de France bombers were EU nationals, and post-referendum Armageddon.. Intellectual integrity is in short supply, e.g.cf
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/14/left-reject-eu-greece-euro
with:
: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/28/succumb-brexit-disaster-sa
I am reluctant even to give the website advertising clicks. |  | | |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:26 - Feb 4 with 1593 views | johnlangy |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 12:44 - Feb 2 by swanjackal |
I suppose you could change "right" with "left" and "Guardian" with "Daily Mail" and this would be the exact response of someone on the other side of the fence. |
Actually you couldn't say 'most are either far left wing' because they are not.
Most are on the right. | | | |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:28 - Feb 4 with 1589 views | blueytheblue |
Can't remember the last time I bought a paper. Get the latest articles online - if behind a paywall, sod it. | |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:43 - Feb 4 with 1580 views | swanjackal |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:26 - Feb 4 by johnlangy |
Actually you couldn't say 'most are either far left wing' because they are not.
Most are on the right. |
Depends on your views again.
I don't think you could say most are "far right wing" either. If you take away the far, then it would be better. And as I was saying, this is just what you typically get from people heavily invested on both sides. Extremes tend to see the centre skewed against their own view.
One thing that is interesting though, looking at the distribution of the Guardian in line with the original post, there has been a 50% decline in just 6 years, and sells 1.5 million less copies per month than the diametrically opposite Daily Mail as of Jan 2016. I would be surprised to see the Guardian,in its current printed form, survive another 2-3 years. [Post edited 4 Feb 2017 9:49]
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:46 - Feb 4 with 1573 views | swanjackal |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:28 - Feb 4 by blueytheblue |
Can't remember the last time I bought a paper. Get the latest articles online - if behind a paywall, sod it. |
Only one I buy is the Daily star on a Saturday, the wife reads the crap in the front, I skim for tits, and then read the sport, and do the football crossword. | |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:46 - Feb 4 with 1571 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 19:31 - Feb 3 by skippyjack |
I wonder if he has ever ventured into the German franchise known as Lidl's?.. I know people from London are scared to eat from such establishments.. I have had a nibble and drink at from both.. Lidl's has some uknowm gems.. waitrose churns out the same old garbage..
I'm surprised perchie hasn't put up his list of Friday delights yet.
As for the Guardian.. a newspaper full of agenda and hypocrisy.. just like every newspaper known to man.
The Dr's of 'real' journalism have simply given up with the new processed breed of incumbents taking their roles..
A bit like all you oldies running down the young bloods of this country.. screaming.. only if I was 40 years younger.. |
3rd and 4th paragraphs, bang on skip.
Currently reading this:
http://www.flatearthnews.net/
Not long into it, but according to the author the only motive for the media barons is profit, not reporting factually. And the amount of copy that gets printed that goes unchecked is eye opening. Backed by stats by a study at Cardiff University. 'Churnalism' is the order of the day.
To me the death of printed media can't come soon enough. Looking at you Murdoch, Rotheremere, Barclays, Desmond... [Post edited 4 Feb 2017 9:47]
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:47 - Feb 4 with 1570 views | Dr_Winston |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:26 - Feb 4 by johnlangy |
Actually you couldn't say 'most are either far left wing' because they are not.
Most are on the right. |
Of the nationally published daily newspapers:
Right - Sun, Mail, Express, Telegraph, Times
Left - Mirror, Guardian, Independent, Financial Times, Morning Star
Neutral - Daily Star
If you include the Sunday People and the Observer then most are on the left. |  |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 10:28 - Feb 4 with 1547 views | Humpty |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:47 - Feb 4 by Dr_Winston |
Of the nationally published daily newspapers:
Right - Sun, Mail, Express, Telegraph, Times
Left - Mirror, Guardian, Independent, Financial Times, Morning Star
Neutral - Daily Star
If you include the Sunday People and the Observer then most are on the left. |
Heh!
Most of the press is left wing. If you include the Observer but leave out the Sunday Times, Sunday Telegraph, Mail on Sunday, Express on Sunday, Sun on Sunday etc. And if you take the Star to be neutral of course.
Good effort though. It would fool the thick c*nts on here.
It's already got one. [Post edited 4 Feb 2017 10:30]
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 10:30 - Feb 4 with 1541 views | Murph75 |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 09:46 - Feb 4 by swanjackal |
Only one I buy is the Daily star on a Saturday, the wife reads the crap in the front, I skim for tits, and then read the sport, and do the football crossword. |
Classy couple. |  | | |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 10:31 - Feb 4 with 1538 views | swanjackal |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 10:30 - Feb 4 by Murph75 |
Classy couple. |
Thank you. | |
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| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 10:32 - Feb 4 with 1531 views | Murph75 |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 10:31 - Feb 4 by swanjackal |
Thank you. |
You're very welcome. Do you swing? | | | |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 10:33 - Feb 4 with 1527 views | swanjackal |
| Is The Guardian 'paper' struggling? on 10:32 - Feb 4 by Murph75 |
You're very welcome. Do you swing? |
I don't think you'd be my wife's type. You might be mine though ;) [Post edited 4 Feb 2017 10:34]
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