| Ash - from a friend of a friend. 08:08 - Aug 7 with 26103 views | Thornburyswan |
No pictures or quotes to back it up but 'I know someone who is very friendly with Ash's family' & she has heard that Everton have offered to almost double his wages' & he sees it as his last significant contract - he has been looking at property up in the North West.
I guess we could offer him more money to stay but suspect if Everton get anywhere near £12M+ we'll move on - assuming Fed's fit looks like him & Amat to me @ Burnley. |  | | |  |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 09:54 - Aug 7 with 2728 views | Smellyplumz |
Fuk him |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:02 - Aug 7 with 2683 views | lifelong |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 09:51 - Aug 7 by plasjack |
Another conspiracy theory?. |
Not really, just think he's thrown his toys out of the pram about something and wants out. |  | | |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:06 - Aug 7 with 2654 views | Loyal |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 08:22 - Aug 7 by Joe_bradshaw |
Maybe Everton should have considered the old fashioned route of having a bid accepted before discussing personal terms with the player?
Having tapped him up to the point of offering to double his wages you'd have thought they'd have quickly offered an increase on the £8M rising to £10M with add ons that was turned down by the Swans.
We may have indicated that we'll accept a bit more but not until we've secured a replacement as we seem to have done with Ayew? |
This is spot on.
Ash was done and dusted contractually 9 days ago but not the transfer fee.
Obviously Huw went to sleep again and left the phone off the hook. [Post edited 7 Aug 2016 10:07]
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:10 - Aug 7 with 2613 views | SwansNZ |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:02 - Aug 7 by lifelong |
Not really, just think he's thrown his toys out of the pram about something and wants out. |
Didn't pay over the odds for a player we didn't really need? |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:11 - Aug 7 with 2605 views | dobjack2 |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 09:29 - Aug 7 by Jackfath |
Not fishing (it's odd that when one posts a differing viewpoint people automatically assume one must be fishing) Neither am I saying he hasn't earned enough. It's all relative. I cannot understand those who would begrudge someone "doubling" their wages for the next few years until they retire. |
But you've changed the point of your argument to anyone would look to move to double their wages (if of course this is true) from he needs to provide for his family.'
It's not an automatic jump to an assumption of fishing, it's just there was little logic to your original argument which can indicate fishing for a reaction. As to your second argument I agree that it is all relative.
A doubling of wages would make a much bigger difference to the lives of most people who watch the swans compared to those who now play in the first team. An entirely different point. | | | |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:12 - Aug 7 with 2582 views | Darran |
I don't get this one last pay day bollox myself but there you go. |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:14 - Aug 7 with 2567 views | Jackfath |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:11 - Aug 7 by dobjack2 |
But you've changed the point of your argument to anyone would look to move to double their wages (if of course this is true) from he needs to provide for his family.'
It's not an automatic jump to an assumption of fishing, it's just there was little logic to your original argument which can indicate fishing for a reaction. As to your second argument I agree that it is all relative.
A doubling of wages would make a much bigger difference to the lives of most people who watch the swans compared to those who now play in the first team. An entirely different point. |
I haven't changed the point of my argument at all. I responded to the OP who indicated Ash was potentially going to double his wages. Something that any normal person would jump at the opportunity to do so. I'd say there was clear logic in that and it is indeed you now who is choosing to do the fishing. |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:17 - Aug 7 with 2560 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:02 - Aug 7 by lifelong |
Not really, just think he's thrown his toys out of the pram about something and wants out. |
He's proven in the past how strong a leader he is but that can mean a disruptive influence as well. I think it's high time we got rid |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:17 - Aug 7 with 2553 views | ItchySphincter |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 09:18 - Aug 7 by Jackfath |
If they are going to double his wages then good luck to him. Anyone on here who wouldn't do exactly the same is a liar and a fool. Consider he could set his children up for life, given that he only has a few years left to play is an opportunity nobody could turn down. |
Good post. |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:25 - Aug 7 with 2515 views | somersetsimon |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:11 - Aug 7 by dobjack2 |
But you've changed the point of your argument to anyone would look to move to double their wages (if of course this is true) from he needs to provide for his family.'
It's not an automatic jump to an assumption of fishing, it's just there was little logic to your original argument which can indicate fishing for a reaction. As to your second argument I agree that it is all relative.
A doubling of wages would make a much bigger difference to the lives of most people who watch the swans compared to those who now play in the first team. An entirely different point. |
You'd think by now Ash would have enough cash in the bank for him, his children and grandchildren to live well for the rest of their lives.
It sounds an odd thing to say, but what would he do with a few extra million?
I think, for some players, the salary is an ego trip, so they can show how much they are valued against their peers.
There's no possible financial reason why the really top players want a pay rise from £10M a year to £12m. It's meaningless. |  | | |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:28 - Aug 7 with 2483 views | Jackfath |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:25 - Aug 7 by somersetsimon |
You'd think by now Ash would have enough cash in the bank for him, his children and grandchildren to live well for the rest of their lives.
It sounds an odd thing to say, but what would he do with a few extra million?
I think, for some players, the salary is an ego trip, so they can show how much they are valued against their peers.
There's no possible financial reason why the really top players want a pay rise from £10M a year to £12m. It's meaningless. |
The OP reported an apparent doubling in wages. | |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:28 - Aug 7 with 2482 views | Joe_bradshaw |
I don't see many griping about Ash doubling his wages, that's a no brainer really.
I don't understand why this deal hasn't been done yet so we can all move on and Ash can get to know and train with his new team.
We rejected Everton's offer on August 1st., it's now August 7th. Everton are apparently awash with money so why haven't they thrown another few million at us and concluded the deal. They've already negotiated to double Ash's wages so for f***s sake put the money down and pay the asking price.
Why the delay? |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:35 - Aug 7 with 2441 views | dobjack2 |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:14 - Aug 7 by Jackfath |
I haven't changed the point of my argument at all. I responded to the OP who indicated Ash was potentially going to double his wages. Something that any normal person would jump at the opportunity to do so. I'd say there was clear logic in that and it is indeed you now who is choosing to do the fishing. |
I have no intention of turning this into a yes you did say that no I didn't debate. So more fool me for responding to one of your posts. | | | |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:40 - Aug 7 with 2410 views | Highjack |
Friend of a friend? I'd rather trust Daniel parrys seaside reporting. |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:48 - Aug 7 with 2369 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 10:40 - Aug 7 by Highjack |
Friend of a friend? I'd rather trust Daniel parrys seaside reporting. |
If the BBC had any sense they'd have signed him up for Rio. He's proven himself at Swansea Bay so no reason he can't make the step up to the Copacabana |  | | |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:03 - Aug 7 with 2174 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Ash's agent whores him out every preseason trying to get himself a payday. |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:07 - Aug 7 with 2147 views | Dewi1jack |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 08:58 - Aug 7 by somersetsimon |
Whichever agent started the rumour that Stones is worth £50M is a genius. Most people seem to have accepted the idea that he's a £50M player despite any evidence to support that.
If Man City manage to buy him for 'only' £30M, they will think they have a bargain! |
This.
If Everton get even £30 million I reckon their board should bubble wrap him and carry him over to Manchester in a sedan chair
Don't trust the car driver (of which there'll be about 30 odd thousand!) in case there's an accident! |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:17 - Aug 7 with 2119 views | londonlisa2001 |
It'll soon become a 'fact' that Ash is doubling his wages. I have no doubt that is the sort of story he'll be happy to put about by the way, so don't doubt the OP at all, but what nonsense.
Think about it. Why would any club double someone's wages? He'll be on a lot of money with us. Wouldn't be at all surprised if it was in excess of £50k. Everton aren't going to say - we'll give you £100k a week! For that, they could be bringing in an absolutely top notch centre back from virtually any of Europe's top clubs. One who is 24 or 25, with a big resale value.
Just not going to happen.
Ash will like the thought of Everton as it's the 'big club' he thinks he deserves. He can look his mate Rio in the eye with that one. He'd move there for the same money or close to it - it wouldn't need to be anywhere near doubled. Although he'll use his mates in the press (Wathan etc) to claim it's a huge deal money wise.
If Everton come back with a bigger bid, we shouldn't hesitate. With him and Ayew gone perhaps we can have the odd window without their agents behaving like this. Gylfi's agent didn't do it. And he actually is our best player. Nothing at all apart from class - I want to stay, negotiate a new contract, and signed.
Ash of course isn't the 'biggest player' anymore. I imagine coming back from the Euros he thought he would be. Signing a bloke who's won the World Cup and Champions League has scuppered it.
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:17 - Aug 7 with 2117 views | FearOfAJackPlanet |
If he does go, and if he wants to go and Everton are willing to up their offer then I've got no problem with it.
I would hope we'd then look to bring in a new centre half to replace him, unless we think the new Dutch chap is good enough.
I'm in a seeming minority who don't think Amat is good enough to be a 1st team premier league regular in that position. I just think he lacks physical stature, he's poor in the air and gets skinned too often in individual duels in the box. Delighted if I'm proved wrong though. |  |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:21 - Aug 7 with 2090 views | Darran |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:17 - Aug 7 by londonlisa2001 |
It'll soon become a 'fact' that Ash is doubling his wages. I have no doubt that is the sort of story he'll be happy to put about by the way, so don't doubt the OP at all, but what nonsense.
Think about it. Why would any club double someone's wages? He'll be on a lot of money with us. Wouldn't be at all surprised if it was in excess of £50k. Everton aren't going to say - we'll give you £100k a week! For that, they could be bringing in an absolutely top notch centre back from virtually any of Europe's top clubs. One who is 24 or 25, with a big resale value.
Just not going to happen.
Ash will like the thought of Everton as it's the 'big club' he thinks he deserves. He can look his mate Rio in the eye with that one. He'd move there for the same money or close to it - it wouldn't need to be anywhere near doubled. Although he'll use his mates in the press (Wathan etc) to claim it's a huge deal money wise.
If Everton come back with a bigger bid, we shouldn't hesitate. With him and Ayew gone perhaps we can have the odd window without their agents behaving like this. Gylfi's agent didn't do it. And he actually is our best player. Nothing at all apart from class - I want to stay, negotiate a new contract, and signed.
Ash of course isn't the 'biggest player' anymore. I imagine coming back from the Euros he thought he would be. Signing a bloke who's won the World Cup and Champions League has scuppered it.
Time to say goodbye. |
Blimey someone's happy. | |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:28 - Aug 7 with 2046 views | blaine_scfc |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:17 - Aug 7 by londonlisa2001 |
It'll soon become a 'fact' that Ash is doubling his wages. I have no doubt that is the sort of story he'll be happy to put about by the way, so don't doubt the OP at all, but what nonsense.
Think about it. Why would any club double someone's wages? He'll be on a lot of money with us. Wouldn't be at all surprised if it was in excess of £50k. Everton aren't going to say - we'll give you £100k a week! For that, they could be bringing in an absolutely top notch centre back from virtually any of Europe's top clubs. One who is 24 or 25, with a big resale value.
Just not going to happen.
Ash will like the thought of Everton as it's the 'big club' he thinks he deserves. He can look his mate Rio in the eye with that one. He'd move there for the same money or close to it - it wouldn't need to be anywhere near doubled. Although he'll use his mates in the press (Wathan etc) to claim it's a huge deal money wise.
If Everton come back with a bigger bid, we shouldn't hesitate. With him and Ayew gone perhaps we can have the odd window without their agents behaving like this. Gylfi's agent didn't do it. And he actually is our best player. Nothing at all apart from class - I want to stay, negotiate a new contract, and signed.
Ash of course isn't the 'biggest player' anymore. I imagine coming back from the Euros he thought he would be. Signing a bloke who's won the World Cup and Champions League has scuppered it.
Time to say goodbye. |
Spot on Lisa.
No chance in a million years are Everton going to be paying Ash £100k plus a week, not going to happen. I think he probably does want out now, so a move will be good business for both parties, especially at £10m plus. Only thing that concerns me is the time it takes to get a replacement up to speed as I assume it will be someone who hasn't played Premier League football before. I'm not overly confident if we are banking on Fede and Amat being first choice partnership, although they did do well at the end of last season. |  | | |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:29 - Aug 7 with 2037 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:21 - Aug 7 by Darran |
Blimey someone's happy. |
Very happy Darran. Sitting in the sunshine in my garden with a lovely cup of coffee, shopping done and the rest of the day to relax !
Very happy with Llorente and Baston. Very happy to get £20m plus for Ayew and will be happy to get anything near £10m for Ash. Will be even more happy if we can bring in one extra wide player and a right back! (Don't think the latter will happen). Thought we played well yesterday and I quite liked the look of Van Der Hoorn or whatever his name is. Better than I was expecting.
Get fed up of the egotistical self serving nonsense from Ash though. He's a great player, but this constant drama is just boring. He's not John Charles for God's sake (actually not sure he's Jeremy Charles for that matter) :-) | | | |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:32 - Aug 7 with 2000 views | Darran |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:29 - Aug 7 by londonlisa2001 |
Very happy Darran. Sitting in the sunshine in my garden with a lovely cup of coffee, shopping done and the rest of the day to relax !
Very happy with Llorente and Baston. Very happy to get £20m plus for Ayew and will be happy to get anything near £10m for Ash. Will be even more happy if we can bring in one extra wide player and a right back! (Don't think the latter will happen). Thought we played well yesterday and I quite liked the look of Van Der Hoorn or whatever his name is. Better than I was expecting.
Get fed up of the egotistical self serving nonsense from Ash though. He's a great player, but this constant drama is just boring. He's not John Charles for God's sake (actually not sure he's Jeremy Charles for that matter) :-) |
lol he's not Craig Charles either. | |
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| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:34 - Aug 7 with 1984 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Ash - from a friend of a friend. on 11:28 - Aug 7 by blaine_scfc |
Spot on Lisa.
No chance in a million years are Everton going to be paying Ash £100k plus a week, not going to happen. I think he probably does want out now, so a move will be good business for both parties, especially at £10m plus. Only thing that concerns me is the time it takes to get a replacement up to speed as I assume it will be someone who hasn't played Premier League football before. I'm not overly confident if we are banking on Fede and Amat being first choice partnership, although they did do well at the end of last season. |
Ash and Amat are similar - great in open play, not great from set pieces as they are small and don't have a great leap to make up for it.
Both need to play with a physically dominant centre back and Fede can be, but blows very hot and cold. That new guy looks more physically dominant - I thought he looked quite good yesterday, but nit quite ready. The bloke that's been rumoured looks the type. Be interesting to see if we pursue that if Ash does go (which I think he will - he certainly wants to it seems). | | | |
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