| Justice for Johnson on 15:06 - Mar 11 with 1115 views | Groo |
| Justice for Johnson on 11:10 - Mar 11 by Uxbridge |
Just because somebody drinks a bottle of cider it doesn't mean they're mature enough to drink or be treated like an adult.
She may well have been naive, but then she's 15, she's going to be. That's kind of the point of the law, to protect a 15 year old from these sorts of situations. Johnson abused that. To seek to move the debate onto anything other than his rather distasteful actions can only seek to add a thin veneer of mitigation for him, where there cannot be any. |
I believe the law protects someone drunk, hence the rape charges you see being brought when the woman is incapable of of giving acceptance. |  |
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| Justice for Johnson on 15:15 - Mar 11 with 1117 views | raynor94 |
| Justice for Johnson on 10:36 - Mar 11 by Jango |
It is illegal for a 15 year old to have a drink at any party unless her parents are with her, now Seens as you are just assuming this was some sort of private house party I'm gonna assume her parents weren't there given the circunstances that involved all her friends. And yes I did drink at 15, but it didn't make it right did it? The fact I was 15 didn't give me the licences to do as I pleased and get away with it. ae I've said, if you are old enough to go partying and get drunk then you old enough to take responsibility for your actions. There are 15 year old children and there are mature 15 year olds! given she's out drinking in the nights, obviously either not going home or having the blessing from her parents to be drunk,then I'm gonna say she's more in the mature category. |
Why don't you read up on the law, it's not illegal for a fifteen year old to consume alcohol on private premises, why do you find this so hard to comprehend? |  |
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| Justice for Johnson on 15:23 - Mar 11 with 1110 views | Jango |
| Justice for Johnson on 13:39 - Mar 11 by Swanjack10 |
50% of people working in there are from cardiff so that sums it up ffs joke aside "THE LAW IS" wft is wrong with you? My daughter is the same age and she has many friends of that age 15, it disgusts me that men like YOU condemn sexual activity , just engaging in conversation with them is enough to see how vulnerable they are, and YOU agree , with grooming via texts and sexual contact with a CHILD, at 15 any man would find this vile and sick at 15 the man should realise the child should be looking forward to her future not being fingered etc in some vehicle, sleazy stinking basta rd you and every other one of you . [Post edited 11 Mar 2016 14:05]
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At what point in any of this have I tried justifying johnsons actions? If you read back what I've said I've repeatedly stated I hope he gets what he deserves. but if you or any other parent on this page choose to let your daughter at 15, do things that 15 year olds are not supposed to be doing, then you must take some of the responsibility when it goes wrong. |  | | |
| Justice for Johnson on 15:34 - Mar 11 with 1101 views | Jango |
| Justice for Johnson on 15:15 - Mar 11 by raynor94 |
Why don't you read up on the law, it's not illegal for a fifteen year old to consume alcohol on private premises, why do you find this so hard to comprehend? |
And why do you find it so hard to comprehend that at no point has it been said she has been drinking on private premises. yiu can twist it all you want for your own agenda. You only have to 5 years old to drink on private premises by law so I'm assuming you'd let you're 5 year old drink then? Or are you gonna pick and choose when that suits you as well? | | | |
| Justice for Johnson on 15:51 - Mar 11 with 1080 views | raynor94 |
| Justice for Johnson on 15:34 - Mar 11 by Jango |
And why do you find it so hard to comprehend that at no point has it been said she has been drinking on private premises. yiu can twist it all you want for your own agenda. You only have to 5 years old to drink on private premises by law so I'm assuming you'd let you're 5 year old drink then? Or are you gonna pick and choose when that suits you as well? |
I'm so glad you read my posts, because you were making yourself such an arse in insisting it was illegal to drink at fifteen, and strange how you are the only one on here holding the views you do | |
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| Justice for Johnson on 16:04 - Mar 11 with 1060 views | Uxbridge |
| Justice for Johnson on 15:06 - Mar 11 by Groo |
I believe the law protects someone drunk, hence the rape charges you see being brought when the woman is incapable of of giving acceptance. |
True, but not really relevant in this case. There seem to be some on here that equate that she's a teenage girl who has been known to drink cider in the park as proof she's adult enough to entrap some naive footballer. Bunkum. |  |
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| Justice for Johnson on 16:13 - Mar 11 with 1050 views | Jango |
| Justice for Johnson on 15:51 - Mar 11 by raynor94 |
I'm so glad you read my posts, because you were making yourself such an arse in insisting it was illegal to drink at fifteen, and strange how you are the only one on here holding the views you do |
Didn't answer the question regarding a 5 year old tho did you? Hypocrite | | | |
| Justice for Johnson on 16:17 - Mar 11 with 1046 views | Vetchfieldpasty |
| Justice for Johnson on 12:04 - Mar 11 by Jango |
I've never once mentioned clubbing - you're wrong
The bit about compensation was about an article in the paper which I have my opinion on - you're wrong again
The partying lifestyle, she's 15 getting drunk in parties, if the parents are not aware of this then what parents are they? - you're wrong
When have I mentioned she was drunk meeting Johnson? - you're wrong yet again!
Her parents were aware of what had gone on with Johnson well before going forward to the police and still let her go to parties to drink- so you're wrong again!
If you are gonna question my intelligence and accuse me fabricating stuff up then try and be smart enough not to do it yourself in the same conversation. Retard |
Retard??
Coming from anyone else I would be offended, from you its a compliment. | | | |
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| Justice for Johnson on 16:20 - Mar 11 with 1044 views | raynor94 |
| Justice for Johnson on 16:13 - Mar 11 by Jango |
Didn't answer the question regarding a 5 year old tho did you? Hypocrite |
You didn't even know the law before posting on this thread! no I wouldn't allow my children to have alcohol at five, but they certainly did drink alcohol at fifteen I'd have been naive to think any different, how have you managed with yours? | |
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| Justice for Johnson on 16:58 - Mar 11 with 1006 views | Groo |
| Justice for Johnson on 16:04 - Mar 11 by Uxbridge |
True, but not really relevant in this case. There seem to be some on here that equate that she's a teenage girl who has been known to drink cider in the park as proof she's adult enough to entrap some naive footballer. Bunkum. |
Agree, although at 15 she has the body of an adult, the law is there to protect her until she has the mind of an adult.
Not sure at 16 there's a sudden switch on or off but its a mark in the sand. And the law. | |
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| Justice for Johnson on 17:16 - Mar 11 with 999 views | Jango |
| Justice for Johnson on 16:20 - Mar 11 by raynor94 |
You didn't even know the law before posting on this thread! no I wouldn't allow my children to have alcohol at five, but they certainly did drink alcohol at fifteen I'd have been naive to think any different, how have you managed with yours? |
Neither did you until you read up on it. And my kids aren't anywhere near old enough yet. But when the time comes If I think they are mature enough to have a drink with friends and go to parties I will let them, but it will be on a trust basis and I'd also hold myself responsible if anything went wrong, exactly the same way as my parents did with me. You can't be old enough to go out and drink at parties but not be old enough to know what's right and wrong.
And by the way, if you were to buy your 15 year old alcohol to go and drink at a party then you'd be breaking the law, whether it be private or not. [Post edited 11 Mar 2016 17:19]
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| Justice for Johnson on 17:24 - Mar 11 with 980 views | raynor94 |
| Justice for Johnson on 16:17 - Mar 11 by Vetchfieldpasty |
Retard??
Coming from anyone else I would be offended, from you its a compliment. |
To use that word, tells you all you need to know about Jango | |
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