| Evans 10:47 - Jan 4 with 33933 views | batfink |
Just heard on 5 live Ched Evans is signing for a league 1 club |  | | |  |
| Evans on 14:16 - Jan 8 with 3042 views | oa85 |
| Evans on 13:28 - Jan 8 by olympicdale |
Ched Evans has issued an apology through the PFA, distancing himself from the social media "mob" brigade |
our chairman has new quit too...can I come and support dale  |  | | |
| Evans on 14:17 - Jan 8 with 3040 views | Sandyman |
| Evans on 14:16 - Jan 8 by oa85 |
our chairman has new quit too...can I come and support dale |
You're more than welcome but will have to find an excuse not to visit Boundary Park later this month  |  | | |
| Evans on 14:28 - Jan 8 with 2968 views | tony_roch975 |
| Evans on 07:46 - Jan 8 by nordenblue |
Why would Evans show empathy and decency to woman who for all we know may have told a bag of lies and got him a couple of years in jail, hes hardly going to apologise either. |
As I said before, Evans apologising whilst maintaining his innocence and demonstrating some empathy with the victim would be a first step. Seems Evans has taken some good advice ... for once. Hope his website will now have that apology full & front! | |
| |
| Evans on 14:47 - Jan 8 with 2879 views | olympicdale |
| Evans on 14:28 - Jan 8 by tony_roch975 |
As I said before, Evans apologising whilst maintaining his innocence and demonstrating some empathy with the victim would be a first step. Seems Evans has taken some good advice ... for once. Hope his website will now have that apology full & front! |
Interesting to hear he has apologised "for the effects" of his actions, not the actions alone, not sure this will wash with many. |  |
| |
| Evans on 14:52 - Jan 8 with 2861 views | D_Alien |
| Evans on 14:28 - Jan 8 by tony_roch975 |
As I said before, Evans apologising whilst maintaining his innocence and demonstrating some empathy with the victim would be a first step. Seems Evans has taken some good advice ... for once. Hope his website will now have that apology full & front! |
No, Evans has been acting on the advice of his legal representatives all along, he's made that clear too in his statement; even though it was absolutely clear beforehand to anyone with half a brain and the ability to look at this issue without getting the moral vapours. |  |
| |
| Evans on 14:54 - Jan 8 with 2840 views | wimborne_dale |
| Evans on 12:22 - Jan 8 by electricblue |
Deal off due to staff being threatened..
Pathetic really threatening the staff its not their fault that the club have a board with no morals...... |
So in the eyes of some, it's not acceptable to employ someone who has been (controversially) convicted of rape but it is OK to threaten staff who were not party to that decision. As D Alien said earlier "The mob has spoken". |  |
| |
| Evans on 15:07 - Jan 8 with 2801 views | tony_roch975 |
| Evans on 14:54 - Jan 8 by wimborne_dale |
So in the eyes of some, it's not acceptable to employ someone who has been (controversially) convicted of rape but it is OK to threaten staff who were not party to that decision. As D Alien said earlier "The mob has spoken". |
No it's not ok which is why the Police are investigating - but if you really think that's why Oldham have withdrawn their offer......! Apart from being part of the Dale mob I hope you weren't implying those of us who disagree with you only follow the views of the mob! It's called democracy comrade! Folk died for it in Paris yesterday! | |
| |
| Evans on 15:53 - Jan 8 with 2688 views | firgrovedale51 |
| Evans on 07:17 - Jan 8 by tony_roch975 |
We all make mistakes in our life; accepting it is a part of rehabilitation & forgiveness. There's been no decency shown to the woman by Evans and his supporters after the event. You can still say 'I maintain my innocence of the crime, while apologising for what I did which I don't dispute,' and show some decency and empathy for this woman. So yes - Hughes' apology whilst Evans refuses is a significance difference. |
If he apologises he is admitting guilt , he admits to having sex with her but not to raping her .
Do you say sorry to a person when you have sex with them , if you do why? [Post edited 8 Jan 2015 16:11]
| | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Evans on 15:54 - Jan 8 with 2688 views | firgrovedale51 |
| Evans on 08:59 - Jan 8 by Bobbyjoe |
So, in nordenblue-world two men may rent a hotel room for the express purpose of having sex with any woman, yet still be entirely innocent victims of a lying bitch! |
Yes | | | |
| Evans on 16:08 - Jan 8 with 2640 views | nordenblue |
Abso bloody lutley | | | |
| Evans on 16:08 - Jan 8 with 2641 views | wimborne_dale |
| Evans on 15:07 - Jan 8 by tony_roch975 |
No it's not ok which is why the Police are investigating - but if you really think that's why Oldham have withdrawn their offer......! Apart from being part of the Dale mob I hope you weren't implying those of us who disagree with you only follow the views of the mob! It's called democracy comrade! Folk died for it in Paris yesterday! |
No tony_roch, I was not trying to imply that anyone who dissagreed was part of the mob. What I am saying though is when innocent staff are threatened leading to a reversal of a decision then clearly THAT is mob rule. I'm not blaming the Oldham board. Doubtless they feel a duty of care to all at OAFC and therefore felt there was nothing else they could do. Boycotting the club is a choice anyone has a right to make if they feel strongly about something but threatening people... I better not say more. | |
| |
| Evans on 16:39 - Jan 8 with 2538 views | aleanddale |
Pathetic just in statement from oldham on Sky sports news.
Backtracking big time but sorry they have tried to close the gate when the horse has bolted. They have shown there true shabby pathetic colours as a club.
Corney and chums should hang there heads in shame. | | | |
| Evans on 17:06 - Jan 8 with 2471 views | olympicdale |
From Evans point of view, he is right to apologise for the effects of what happened that night, however as he maintains he is innocent, and until that is proven or not, he should not be expected to apologise for the actions, as he firmly believes it was a consensual act. | |
| |
| Evans on 17:54 - Jan 8 with 2387 views | ColDale |
Unless he is successful in his appeal, I can't see Evans getting a club in this country.
Whilst I'm not convinced that there was any witch hunt mentality on here (don't think many argued he shouldn't be allowed to play football again), I think there is such a high profile attached to him now that it will be financially punitive for any club to take him on.
Any club will be met with the petitions now (I think its safe to assume that only a small percentage of those signing will be from a club's supporters), and the divide in the support will be highlighted massively. However, at a guess, there's plenty of lobbying of sponsors that takes place, which would make it very difficult for such sponsorship to continue. Despite the public reasons, I don't think its a coincidence that Sports Direct started to come into the firing line a few hours before the offer was withdrawn. Any club will have their sponsors targeted now by those determined to see him not play again, and it would be a brave company that will be happy to stand up to financially support a rapist (as it will be deemed).
My stance is same as it ever was. He should be entitled to continue his career but I wouldn't want him at Spotland. |  | | |
| Evans on 18:07 - Jan 8 with 2355 views | dingdangblue |
I can't remember this much furore when Oxford signed Luke McCormick - his actions that night killing those 2 young brothers was far worse. |  |
| |
| Evans on 18:11 - Jan 8 with 2346 views | ColDale |
| Evans on 18:07 - Jan 8 by dingdangblue |
I can't remember this much furore when Oxford signed Luke McCormick - his actions that night killing those 2 young brothers was far worse. |
He was less high profile than Evans and at a club less high profile than Sheff United. Had Evans gone direct to Oldham, there might not have been the fuss and the signing would only have attracted a bit of flack, but the ball had started rolling with Sheffield United, their sponsors and the Jess Ennis stuff. | | | |
| Evans on 18:34 - Jan 8 with 2293 views | RAFC1907 |
| Evans on 18:11 - Jan 8 by ColDale |
He was less high profile than Evans and at a club less high profile than Sheff United. Had Evans gone direct to Oldham, there might not have been the fuss and the signing would only have attracted a bit of flack, but the ball had started rolling with Sheffield United, their sponsors and the Jess Ennis stuff. |
People jump on the waggon without even looking into all the facts.
She says she could not remember anything...
http://chedevans.com/judge-for-yourself
I would have no quarms in him signing for Rochdale AFC, not one and that's simply because I do not believe he has raped the women in question.
http://chedevans.com/ I really hope his name is cleared.
I find it somewhat crazy that hundreds and thousands of people have signed a petition against him, yet when the British government let in thousands of rapists and murderers from other countries nothing arised, to me that says it all. | |
| |
| Evans on 18:45 - Jan 8 with 2258 views | Brierls |
| Evans on 18:34 - Jan 8 by RAFC1907 |
People jump on the waggon without even looking into all the facts.
She says she could not remember anything...
http://chedevans.com/judge-for-yourself
I would have no quarms in him signing for Rochdale AFC, not one and that's simply because I do not believe he has raped the women in question.
http://chedevans.com/ I really hope his name is cleared.
I find it somewhat crazy that hundreds and thousands of people have signed a petition against him, yet when the British government let in thousands of rapists and murderers from other countries nothing arised, to me that says it all. |
Guilty or innocent, remorseful or not, Ched Evans is toxic at this moment in time. Any club signing him would be signing their own death warrant.
My views are very similar to Col's, but I'd go as far as saying I'd welcome him signing for Dale if his appeal was successful. That's not exactly sticking my neck out, I know, but in my mind that's the point where it becomes a consideration. If he does win his appeal I'm sure clubs will be queuing up to sign him.
Ched Evans should put his career on hold until his appeal has reached a conclusion.
The way Oldham have handled everything has been shocking. They've had 90% of the fallout without actually signing him! |  | | |
| Evans on 18:56 - Jan 8 with 2228 views | 442Dale |
| Evans on 16:08 - Jan 8 by wimborne_dale |
No tony_roch, I was not trying to imply that anyone who dissagreed was part of the mob. What I am saying though is when innocent staff are threatened leading to a reversal of a decision then clearly THAT is mob rule. I'm not blaming the Oldham board. Doubtless they feel a duty of care to all at OAFC and therefore felt there was nothing else they could do. Boycotting the club is a choice anyone has a right to make if they feel strongly about something but threatening people... I better not say more. |
From renowned Guardian journalist David Conn:
“@david_conn: Ched Evans: Police say they called Oldham Athletic & sponsors and were told no threats been made; a couple of "low level abuse on Twitter."”
From the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30734906
Latics chief executive Neil Joy said: "We deplore the vile and abusive threats, including death threats, made to our fans, sponsors and staff."
Joy said the club were always "prepared to withstand the barrage of abuse that is evident within the country and on social media" over any agreement to sign Evans and praised the player and his team's "professionalism at all times".
"The whole issue has divided opinion and the club has been put under unbearable pressure as a result.
"Proceeding could have placed significant financial pressure on the club and continued to be a divisive influence. As a consequence the deal could not go ahead."
Greater Manchester Police's chief constable Sir Peter Fahy said his force would investigate threats to Oldham's staff and their families.
But GMP later clarified that no threats were currently being investigated as they had yet to receive any complaints."
This bit stood out:"Proceeding could have placed significant financial pressure on the club and continued to be a divisive influence. As a consequence the deal could not go ahead."
The "divisive" nature of the situation was obvious within hours and surely they'd planned this properly to assess the financial implications before the story was allowed to develop over the week? As a board they could have ended this three days ago for the very reasons they've just stated. But for some reason things were allowed to snowball into something much worse and they've still got a divided fanbase and financial implications to deal with. |  |
| |
| Evans on 19:00 - Jan 8 with 2212 views | 1mark1 |
| Evans on 12:36 - Jan 8 by Albert_Whitehurst |
Oldham Athletic have decided against signing convicted rapist Ched Evans following threats to the club's "staff and their families".
A little ironic! |
Lets see if any of these alleged threats have actually taken place. In my opinion, it's the sponsors and fans walking away that is the reason they are not going ahead.
IF such threats have happened it is disgusting and wrong, and hopefully the people responsible will be found, charged and brought to trial. |  |
| |
| Evans on 19:04 - Jan 8 with 2194 views | 1mark1 |
| Evans on 18:56 - Jan 8 by 442Dale |
From renowned Guardian journalist David Conn:
“@david_conn: Ched Evans: Police say they called Oldham Athletic & sponsors and were told no threats been made; a couple of "low level abuse on Twitter."”
From the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30734906
Latics chief executive Neil Joy said: "We deplore the vile and abusive threats, including death threats, made to our fans, sponsors and staff."
Joy said the club were always "prepared to withstand the barrage of abuse that is evident within the country and on social media" over any agreement to sign Evans and praised the player and his team's "professionalism at all times".
"The whole issue has divided opinion and the club has been put under unbearable pressure as a result.
"Proceeding could have placed significant financial pressure on the club and continued to be a divisive influence. As a consequence the deal could not go ahead."
Greater Manchester Police's chief constable Sir Peter Fahy said his force would investigate threats to Oldham's staff and their families.
But GMP later clarified that no threats were currently being investigated as they had yet to receive any complaints."
This bit stood out:"Proceeding could have placed significant financial pressure on the club and continued to be a divisive influence. As a consequence the deal could not go ahead."
The "divisive" nature of the situation was obvious within hours and surely they'd planned this properly to assess the financial implications before the story was allowed to develop over the week? As a board they could have ended this three days ago for the very reasons they've just stated. But for some reason things were allowed to snowball into something much worse and they've still got a divided fanbase and financial implications to deal with. |
So there's a possibility that OAFC representatives have LIED about alleged threats being made. I am not surprised at all. | |
| |
| Evans on 20:46 - Jan 8 with 2064 views | pioneer |
| Evans on 17:54 - Jan 8 by ColDale |
Unless he is successful in his appeal, I can't see Evans getting a club in this country.
Whilst I'm not convinced that there was any witch hunt mentality on here (don't think many argued he shouldn't be allowed to play football again), I think there is such a high profile attached to him now that it will be financially punitive for any club to take him on.
Any club will be met with the petitions now (I think its safe to assume that only a small percentage of those signing will be from a club's supporters), and the divide in the support will be highlighted massively. However, at a guess, there's plenty of lobbying of sponsors that takes place, which would make it very difficult for such sponsorship to continue. Despite the public reasons, I don't think its a coincidence that Sports Direct started to come into the firing line a few hours before the offer was withdrawn. Any club will have their sponsors targeted now by those determined to see him not play again, and it would be a brave company that will be happy to stand up to financially support a rapist (as it will be deemed).
My stance is same as it ever was. He should be entitled to continue his career but I wouldn't want him at Spotland. |
Like anyone else he has a right to continue his career if he can find someone willing to employ him in that career. You cannot make an employer take someone on and quite clearly he is finding out he is not very attractive as an employee . . even for Oldham.
Like you I wouldn't want him at Spotland, and if every other fan was to say that about their team it would mean he would be unable to continue his chosen career.
It might be a bit 'nimby'ish to say he has a right to continue his career . . but not at my club. | | | |
| Evans on 21:31 - Jan 8 with 1978 views | daledaft |
Does anyone know if Evans has actually started proceedings to overturn his
conviction ?
I thought that more or less as soon as convicted an appeal could be submitted.
Haven't heard anything about one that's been put in up to now.
After serving 2 and a half years I would have thought (as he's been so adamant he's innocent) that one would have gone in a lot sooner. |  | | |
| Evans on 21:32 - Jan 8 with 1976 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Evans on 12:35 - Jan 8 by oa85 |
fairly surprised by that chart, ill hold my hands up, but surely if that's the case why cant you muster up more than 1500 for a trip down the road? |
Eh,thicko.....we just don't want to come to Ice Station Boundary for silly money.
Get over it,it's OUR choice.
Moralless club. | | | |
| Evans on 21:46 - Jan 8 with 1942 views | rod_leach |
| Evans on 21:31 - Jan 8 by daledaft |
Does anyone know if Evans has actually started proceedings to overturn his
conviction ?
I thought that more or less as soon as convicted an appeal could be submitted.
Haven't heard anything about one that's been put in up to now.
After serving 2 and a half years I would have thought (as he's been so adamant he's innocent) that one would have gone in a lot sooner. |
He's had an appeal refused twice and the conviction is currently being reviewed.
From Wiki - On 24 April 2012, it was announced that Evans was seeking the leave of the Court of Appeal to appeal against his conviction.On 20 August 2012, leave to appeal was refused by a single judge of the Court of Appeal,and on 6 November 2012, a three-judge panel agreed with the refusal
In November 2013 it was revealed that Evans had recruited a new legal team headed by ex-senior detective Russ Whitfield and appeals lawyer David Emanuel.In July 2014, he launched another appeal attempt via the Criminal Cases Review Commission.He was released from prison on 17 October 2014. Following his release, the Criminal Cases Review Commission announced that they were fast-tracking a review into his conviction. |  | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
