| Abysmal second half performance 21:35 - Aug 12 with 7352 views | olympicdale |
Striker needed desperately.
Second goal killed the game.
The kids are not the answer up front.
No penetration second half.
George needs shipping out. |  |
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| Abysmal second half performance on 22:46 - Aug 12 with 2371 views | 442Dale |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:44 - Aug 12 by olympicdale |
Or rather Vincenti who slipped in possession with Rose having pushed up, left him horribly exposed. |
No matter how exposed, there should be no way a full back let's a wide player not only beat him, but make his way in towards goal. It was incredibly poor. |  |
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| Abysmal second half performance on 22:49 - Aug 12 with 2353 views | LathamDale |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:35 - Aug 12 by olympicdale |
I don't think the central defence is the problem, Lancashire and Tanser look to be doing well, our lack of awareness at either side is an issue. |
I agree but it just adds a bit more depth and experience plus it means if tanser has to go LB they'll be a another CB other than eastham and what seems to be a dodgy mcGinty |  | | |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:50 - Aug 12 with 2335 views | Swissdale |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:44 - Aug 12 by olympicdale |
Or rather Vincenti who slipped in possession with Rose having pushed up, left him horribly exposed. |
Very generous on Rose there. He was goalside of the PNE player, so not "horribly exposed". Made a poor attempt to outmuscle their player when he should have just headed clear. |  | | |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:55 - Aug 12 with 2298 views | D_Alien |
I genuinely feel sorry for Rose.
Couldn't make it tonight but it doesn't in the least surprise me to see a player who's highly thought of in terms of character but who was only just good enough in L2, struggling at a higher level.
If KH really has any respect for him, he should take him out of the firing line. L1 forwards are going to butcher him. |  |
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| Abysmal second half performance on 23:01 - Aug 12 with 2236 views | olympicdale |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:55 - Aug 12 by D_Alien |
I genuinely feel sorry for Rose.
Couldn't make it tonight but it doesn't in the least surprise me to see a player who's highly thought of in terms of character but who was only just good enough in L2, struggling at a higher level.
If KH really has any respect for him, he should take him out of the firing line. L1 forwards are going to butcher him. |
I'd rather have Done in at full back, and push Rose out wide, I still think he has an important role to play this season. | |
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| Abysmal second half performance on 23:08 - Aug 12 with 2198 views | D_Alien |
| Abysmal second half performance on 23:01 - Aug 12 by olympicdale |
I'd rather have Done in at full back, and push Rose out wide, I still think he has an important role to play this season. |
If Rose gets pushed further out wide than fullback he'll be over the touchline. Not a bad idea actually. Should be utilised from the bench at best now. I'm trying to be kind. | |
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| Abysmal second half performance on 23:12 - Aug 12 with 2161 views | olympicdale |
| Abysmal second half performance on 23:08 - Aug 12 by D_Alien |
If Rose gets pushed further out wide than fullback he'll be over the touchline. Not a bad idea actually. Should be utilised from the bench at best now. I'm trying to be kind. |
I just hope Hills dedication to players like Rose and Donnelly do not cost too many points, both have been over taken from the starting 11. | |
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| Abysmal second half performance on 23:20 - Aug 12 with 2129 views | olympicdale |
What is most frustrating about the last two games, is we've played, probably two of the promotion favourites, and for a good chunk of both games looked just as good, had we had any kind of presence up front, could have beaten both. | |
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| Abysmal second half performance on 23:25 - Aug 12 with 2109 views | Braemar60 |
To answer the point on Done (if it hasn't been answered already) he was sitting in the Main Stand on the same row as me. Don't know if he's injured or not.
In two games we've played two very good first halves and two equally poor second halves. Yes, an out and out goalscorer is needed and no, neither Calvin Andrew nor George Donnelly are that man. However, in the second half tonight, it wouldn't have mattered if we'd had a Jimmy Greaves or Ian Rush type in their heyday. If you don't give the strikers any service you're not going to score any goals. And in that second half we created nothing at all.
A shame to hear some booing in the Main Stand when George went on, small scale but certainly audible to me. But if you're paying at the turnstile, you're entitled to your opinion. Many (myself included) will still get behind him when he plays. I want to see him graft and run himself into the ground as he can do, I like to see players like that. I'd like to see his endeavour rewarded with goals also though that's probably less likely! He certainly seems to attract more column inches on this forum than any other player.
Playing Andrew or Donnelly with a goalscorer would be fine, but without one, we'll only get what we got tonight. Added to that, no-one else looks like chipping in with any goals at the moment either. | | | |
| Abysmal second half performance on 23:34 - Aug 12 with 2060 views | off2div1 |
| Abysmal second half performance on 23:01 - Aug 12 by olympicdale |
I'd rather have Done in at full back, and push Rose out wide, I still think he has an important role to play this season. |
Push rose out far wide sitting in the stand. |  | | |
| Abysmal second half performance on 23:58 - Aug 12 with 2000 views | Daley_Lama |
I wasn't there but I'm quite happy tonight.
We didn't beat a team in the top 7 last season, sold our star striker and returned our evidently best loanee CH.
We more than held our own v Posh and were in the paraphrased words of twitter far better than Preston until they scabbed a goal.
As with last season, when we play the teams at the top we wilk struggle, the rest shall fall to our brazilian/ barca/spain/hang on/german style of play.
We always start off pooh under Hill anyway, i'd be worried otherwise. |  |
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| Abysmal second half performance on 00:23 - Aug 13 with 1953 views | love_the_dale |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:50 - Aug 12 by Swissdale |
Very generous on Rose there. He was goalside of the PNE player, so not "horribly exposed". Made a poor attempt to outmuscle their player when he should have just headed clear. |
I'm afraid I have to agree. I like his attitude to the team, but he did the same thing twice on Saturday as well. Holding back on a high ball. |  | | |
| Abysmal second half performance on 14:14 - Aug 13 with 1603 views | aleanddale |
It wasnt great second half but abysmal is a long way off.
We looked far superior first half for 40+ minutes - we ran Preston ragged they couldnt live with our pace and movement but then we ran out of ideas in the final third of the pitch.
Sucker punch from Preston on 44 mins a travesty really. ( poor Rose defending )
Soft goal just after half time from an uncleared corner then monsoon conditions for 25 minutes really didnt help.
Its obvious we need a poacher - 18- 25 goals a year off his arse and shin - Get the right man in now and we will be more than fine....
Last night we were 99.9% pretty to watch and 0.01% effective in front of goal.
Over to you Hilly!!!
Onwards to Chesterfield!!!! | | | |
| Abysmal second half performance on 15:57 - Aug 13 with 1522 views | 442Dale |
| Abysmal second half performance on 23:25 - Aug 12 by Braemar60 |
To answer the point on Done (if it hasn't been answered already) he was sitting in the Main Stand on the same row as me. Don't know if he's injured or not.
In two games we've played two very good first halves and two equally poor second halves. Yes, an out and out goalscorer is needed and no, neither Calvin Andrew nor George Donnelly are that man. However, in the second half tonight, it wouldn't have mattered if we'd had a Jimmy Greaves or Ian Rush type in their heyday. If you don't give the strikers any service you're not going to score any goals. And in that second half we created nothing at all.
A shame to hear some booing in the Main Stand when George went on, small scale but certainly audible to me. But if you're paying at the turnstile, you're entitled to your opinion. Many (myself included) will still get behind him when he plays. I want to see him graft and run himself into the ground as he can do, I like to see players like that. I'd like to see his endeavour rewarded with goals also though that's probably less likely! He certainly seems to attract more column inches on this forum than any other player.
Playing Andrew or Donnelly with a goalscorer would be fine, but without one, we'll only get what we got tonight. Added to that, no-one else looks like chipping in with any goals at the moment either. |
Where in the main stand was that? Where we were he got his usual good reception when his name was announced. In fact it's so noticeably different that it's noticeable!
Also Hill made a point of saying how well the fans backed the players, doubt that would have occurred if Donnelly was booed on. Not saying it didn't happen, but didn't hear anything in the area behind the dugouts. | |
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| Abysmal second half performance on 19:57 - Aug 13 with 1374 views | nordenblue |
| Abysmal second half performance on 15:57 - Aug 13 by 442Dale |
Where in the main stand was that? Where we were he got his usual good reception when his name was announced. In fact it's so noticeably different that it's noticeable!
Also Hill made a point of saying how well the fans backed the players, doubt that would have occurred if Donnelly was booed on. Not saying it didn't happen, but didn't hear anything in the area behind the dugouts. |
I sat towards the sandy in the main stand and never heard a thing apart from applause when George came on | | | |
| Abysmal second half performance on 11:19 - Aug 14 with 1168 views | ParkinsGimp |
Yes we were beaten by a better side , I must admit Tanser did really well, especially against Kevin Davies, who is still class( wish we had him) . So I concede that Tanser has improved match on match, but I want to see him at left back. Get rid of Rose he is an absolute liability, he loses the ball all the time, his passing is woeful and his crossing of late has been wasteful.
We could do with an experienced centre back to marshal the defence and definitely need two goal scorers because I am sorry to say but Andrew is just a stump who has a poor record of scoring for a reason! he just isnt good enough, certainly not League One. And Donnelly should never of been allowed to reach the limit to get an automatic contract extension.
Lets hope we draft some quality in quickly. | | | |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:27 - Aug 14 with 1065 views | Braemar60 |
| Abysmal second half performance on 15:57 - Aug 13 by 442Dale |
Where in the main stand was that? Where we were he got his usual good reception when his name was announced. In fact it's so noticeably different that it's noticeable!
Also Hill made a point of saying how well the fans backed the players, doubt that would have occurred if Donnelly was booed on. Not saying it didn't happen, but didn't hear anything in the area behind the dugouts. |
I sit in the section behind the home dugout and in front of the Directors Box. I was sure I heard it somewhere to my left. Didn't sound like a many people but thought that's what I'd heard as my immediate feeling was one of disappointment to such a reaction to a substitution.
I could have mistaken it and could be wrong, happy to hold my hand up and be corrected if I am but was sure that's what I heard. | | | |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:44 - Aug 14 with 1035 views | tazzydjr |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:27 - Aug 14 by Braemar60 |
I sit in the section behind the home dugout and in front of the Directors Box. I was sure I heard it somewhere to my left. Didn't sound like a many people but thought that's what I'd heard as my immediate feeling was one of disappointment to such a reaction to a substitution.
I could have mistaken it and could be wrong, happy to hold my hand up and be corrected if I am but was sure that's what I heard. |
I were near top of the pearl their were no booing but an very negative atmosphere appeared when it were announced, The Don were coming on got nothing against him just realistically we need in either proven Premier League U21 Goalscorer or Proven Championship Goalscorer who not getting an sniff at their first team football like the Jordan Rhodes scenario at Ipswich hope The King has someone in mind while Wonderboy Muldoon is out |  |
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| Abysmal second half performance on 10:44 - Aug 15 with 930 views | aleanddale |
| Abysmal second half performance on 22:44 - Aug 14 by tazzydjr |
I were near top of the pearl their were no booing but an very negative atmosphere appeared when it were announced, The Don were coming on got nothing against him just realistically we need in either proven Premier League U21 Goalscorer or Proven Championship Goalscorer who not getting an sniff at their first team football like the Jordan Rhodes scenario at Ipswich hope The King has someone in mind while Wonderboy Muldoon is out |
loving the positivity Tazzy lad!!
when is wonderboy Muldoon making his Dale debut then?? | | | |
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