| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 21:01 - Aug 19 with 4622 views | borinifanclub |
Ml said even a ridiculous offer for Michu would be turned down as there would be no time to get a replacement...... that will help me sleep easily then!
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 21:03 - Aug 19 with 4611 views | bermudajack |
If we unexpectedly sign a quality center half and attacking midfielder this week, I'll be worried.
£35m is not worth relegation and losses of £60m depends if ML can get quality replacements in before the window shuts really...
I have a feeling Arsenal are going to start throwing silly money at all and sundry soon which will mess up a lot of smaller clubs plans for the season... |  |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 21:05 - Aug 19 with 4588 views | monmouth |
Anyone who thinks the Board, along with ML wouldn't consider a £35m bid is off their trolley. In the end though, it'll be down to ML to decide if he can use the money to improve his team further than these two, and I don't think he will, not at this stage. Also, another good season and Michu will probably command that fee himself. |  |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 21:07 - Aug 19 with 4577 views | UplandsJack |
Quite simply.... Never going to happen, well not this Summer For Michu anyway |  | | |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 21:40 - Aug 19 with 4482 views | longlostjack |
As ML has pointed out - pretty pointless being the richest club in the Championship. So unless he has an equally good replacement in mind at the moment this simply won't happen. |  |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 21:46 - Aug 19 with 4451 views | Jokeren1943 |
ML want to move on to a bigger club in Spain or England next summer. The better he do with Swansea the better offers he will get. His focus is short term. Keeping Michu and Williams will be a absolut priority for him.
For the club and Jenkins they are thinking long term. What is the best way to make Swansea a midtabel club. Getting a massive amount of silly money (35 million) will be hard to refuse. Or just sell Michu for 20-25 million and keep Williams. |  | | |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 22:16 - Aug 19 with 4360 views | Tom1912 |
I'd be worried if Arsenal bid that amount |  | | |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 22:22 - Aug 19 with 4327 views | orion3016 |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 22:16 - Aug 19 by Tom1912 |
I'd be worried if Arsenal bid that amount |
Me too, we're still a profitable business and money talks |  |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 22:25 - Aug 19 with 4289 views | Lord_Bony |
Arsenal need to shore up their defence and quickly.
A serious bid for ash is coming down the pipe any day now.
Mind you after Saturday maybe a couple of mill knocked off.? [Post edited 19 Aug 2013 22:26]
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 22:35 - Aug 19 with 4221 views | Plasticman |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 21:46 - Aug 19 by Jokeren1943 |
ML want to move on to a bigger club in Spain or England next summer. The better he do with Swansea the better offers he will get. His focus is short term. Keeping Michu and Williams will be a absolut priority for him.
For the club and Jenkins they are thinking long term. What is the best way to make Swansea a midtabel club. Getting a massive amount of silly money (35 million) will be hard to refuse. Or just sell Michu for 20-25 million and keep Williams. |
Considering we got both the players and the money right now we need for that long term prsopect to suceed, why start gambling on it just to get more money that will only get us lesser players?
Next season I can see us get a striker more in so we won't need to do a loan move for that the backup and possibly a midfield and a backup defender for when the brown stuff really hits the fan. Possibly a RB as well. Aside that, I don't really see any needs for strengthening much more than what we got (compared to what we can attract to the club).
I don't see those purchases as being something we can't do without needing to sell our main players, so why the rush to sell when we don't need and it would only put us in a worse position? |  |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 22:38 - Aug 19 with 4214 views | dobjack2 |
£35 million at the beginning of the transfer window and it would have to have been taken seriously Now it is too late for us to get replacements in and up to speed etc.If they try making a bid I hope that Hj's phone is turned off. | | | |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 22:57 - Aug 19 with 4120 views | Jonathans_coat |
No deal for me! We don't need the money, and it would ruin our biggest ever season in our 101 year history! We have the squad almost complete, to sell now would be madness regardless of the money offered. Especially with only a week to find and negotiate suitable replacements! |  | | |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 23:59 - Aug 19 with 3982 views | LilleFlue |
If the players accept, this would imo be very good business by Swansea ! | | | |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 00:12 - Aug 20 with 3957 views | Jokeren1943 |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 23:59 - Aug 19 by LilleFlue |
If the players accept, this would imo be very good business by Swansea ! |
As Laudrup say, real quality do just cost money. You can be lucky/good, but general good players cost lot of money. | | | |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 02:31 - Aug 20 with 3864 views | shingle |
If we had more time to bring in a couple of replacements, i`d take the £35 million, but now it is a bit late in the day, would our squad struggle to stay in the Prem after losing 2 of our main players and not having the time to bring in 2 replacements it`s risky, at the end of the day the be all and end all is to stay in the Prem | | | |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:17 - Aug 20 with 3674 views | JackSomething |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 21:05 - Aug 19 by monmouth |
Anyone who thinks the Board, along with ML wouldn't consider a £35m bid is off their trolley. In the end though, it'll be down to ML to decide if he can use the money to improve his team further than these two, and I don't think he will, not at this stage. Also, another good season and Michu will probably command that fee himself. |
Previously I would have agreed with you, but I've been reading some good pieces on how the new television money is changing the landscape for mid-table teams like us, Everton, Norwich and Southampton.
Norwich have spent around £25m, Southampton have spent £35m on three players, while previously cash-strapped Everton are able to spend £10m and turn down almost £30m from Man U for Baines and Fellaini (although that does seem a very low offer). Hell, even Cardiff have spent almost £30m without selling anyone.
Meanwhile we've spent well over £20m without selling anyone. I think this shows the increased financial muscle teams like us have thanks to the television deal. Undoubtedly Michu and Williams have their price, but I think Arsenal and the other big clubs have to understand those prices have risen significantly.
Factor in the limited time to both sign replacements and get them up to speed and the price goes up even more. Anyone we try and buy players from will be in the same boat and we'll also have to pay a premium. Add in Williams being our captain and his amazing injury record, plus Michu being our top scorer last season and undoubtedly our most high-profile player.
I can't quite believe I'm writing this, but I think once all those factors are taken into account, the bid required to convince the club to sell may be closer to £45m. |  |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:21 - Aug 20 with 3657 views | shandyjack |
there is no way the board would turn down £35m, also anyone who thinks replacement shave not already been looked at and lined up with the expectancy that a silly bid came in for 1 or both of these players is mental.
ML and HJ would of discussed the right price for each player if a bid came in and then looked at who they could get in if they had too |  |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:29 - Aug 20 with 3639 views | JackSomething |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:21 - Aug 20 by shandyjack |
there is no way the board would turn down £35m, also anyone who thinks replacement shave not already been looked at and lined up with the expectancy that a silly bid came in for 1 or both of these players is mental.
ML and HJ would of discussed the right price for each player if a bid came in and then looked at who they could get in if they had too |
How do they know that the clubs will sell those players at the price we want? Especially knowing we have just received/are about to receive £35m from Arsenal? How do we know those players will want to join us, or won't want more money than we're willing to pay?
As I've said above, I'd have agreed with you previously, but the new TV deal and this late in the window changes things. | |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:31 - Aug 20 with 3634 views | shandyjack |
It's a risk, a MASSIVE risk but i just can't see the board turning a bid this size down IMO.
I hope they do but it's a lot of money on 2 players that we only paid a combined total of £2.4m | |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:33 - Aug 20 with 3625 views | perchrockjack |
We have absolutely no idea if the BOARD would accept these offers which would or could put us back into the Championship IF replacement s weren't already pencilled in.
Quite why ML or the Boardw would want to do this is beyond me and I pray they tell Wenger and co to feckoff. | |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:36 - Aug 20 with 3607 views | perchrockjack |
cont...
I also cannot think of a better way to pisssoff the fans right at the start of the season.
We don't need to sell so we shouldn't but people are off their trolley if they think the Board MGHT not consider.
Hate to say it but the LFC poisonous outfit has stood firm over Suarez and we should do the same with our jewels | |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:39 - Aug 20 with 3595 views | JackSomething |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:31 - Aug 20 by shandyjack |
It's a risk, a MASSIVE risk but i just can't see the board turning a bid this size down IMO.
I hope they do but it's a lot of money on 2 players that we only paid a combined total of £2.4m |
It does seem crazy to think we would turn down that kind of money. Having said that, I confidently predicted a few months ago that we wouldn't break the £10m mark on a single player without selling someone first, so what do I know?
It obviously comes down to our financial state. The board have authorised spending of more than £20m with no player sales, not to mention the two training ground developments and presumably money being put aside for stadium expansion. This indicates we are doing well financially, as I can't see the club stretching themselves on the basis we would eventually receive a big offer for some of our players and use that to balance the books.
Final point, I cannot see Arsene Wenger spending £35m on a defender who'll be 29 in a few days and a 27-year old who has one season in British football. It goes against everything he stands for in the game. | |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:45 - Aug 20 with 3573 views | RogueTrooper |
Ash may go as that would be a career peak for him, but Michu probably wont. We all know that Laudrup will probably leave at the end of this season, probably to a big Spanish Club and Michu will probably want to go with him. He checked that ML was extending before he signed his contract extention here, so I think he has a desire to stick with ML and follow him to his next job rather than sign for Arsenal right now and be stuck there when ML moves on.
The only way I could see Michu going to Arsenal is if they sack Wenger and ML is poached off us. I hope Ash sticks with us, but I would understand if he wanted to go to one of the PL's traditional big boys, there is the little matter of the eligibility for them to play in Europe if we get through to the Group Stages however. Arsenal might not want cup tied players, or, they may not progress themselves, they love getting in the Champions league every year, but I cant see them making much of an impact this season.
If Wenger is waiting to see what happens during our respective European games this week before making a move then the price will only go up. We have a nice squad at the moment only a second striker to add and I think we will be ready for anything (except RVP) We definitely do not want to be last minute shopping for players, no matter how much money we get. We arent going to be in Europe every season so for this one we cant be a selling club. Our books are balanced and I would hate the chance of doing well in Europe this season to go begging just to put some money in the coffers.
Unless the offer is ridiculous (This is tightwad Wenger we are talking about here) then we shouldnt even entertain disrupting our squad at the last minute during one of the most important seasons in our history. |  |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:48 - Aug 20 with 3563 views | perchrockjack |
Morning JS.
Just as Iwas getting back to my normal cheery self I see this post.
It would be shocking business as it would weaken us big time.
Time s moved on and it aint a case of us having to taken in washed up old pros and kids who were never gonna make it- we re big time but I truly believe many fans haven't cottoned on yet.
Compared to Manure clelsea and their ilk we are tiny but we are more removed from the likes of Hartlepool, Rochdale and PORT Vale where we used to ply our trade.
Wenge is under big pressure and he ll have to do something dramatic so we have to be strong. | |
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| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 10:01 - Aug 20 with 3533 views | Spratty |
| Arsenal sizing up Michu & Williams 35 Million Bid? on 09:31 - Aug 20 by shandyjack |
It's a risk, a MASSIVE risk but i just can't see the board turning a bid this size down IMO.
I hope they do but it's a lot of money on 2 players that we only paid a combined total of £2.4m |
I don't understand repeated reference on forums and in the press to what players cost us in regard to their current value. As far as I am concerned that may be a hard pill to swallow for anyone buying but is totally irrelevant. The only things that matter is their worth to us (not always easily quantifiable in monetary terms and also affected by the players wishes) and what the market is willing to pay. Both themselves depending on many variables.
If I pick a Rembrandt up at a car boot sale for a fiver does it make it any less valuable when it goes up for sale at Sotheby's? Or the fact that the canvas and oil that went into producing it only cost pennies. |  | | |
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