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Which will be strongest 09:59 - May 17 with 3870 viewskingsburyR

Which of the three coming down do we fear the most?

Obviously they will have their pockets full and they have a full summer to prep.

Dont know why we bother. .... but we do!

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Which will be strongest on 10:10 - May 17 with 3811 viewsterryb

Burnley will be the best footballing side of them, but Luton probably the hardest to beat.

Sheffield United could be a bottom third team.
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Which will be strongest on 10:15 - May 17 with 3767 viewsstevec

They’ve all been as useless as we were in our last relegation so nothing to fear.

Next season is as inviting as it’s been for many years, case of who wants to step up.
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Which will be strongest on 11:06 - May 17 with 3690 viewsdsw2509

I can see Luton strolling to automatic promotion. Burnley will fall apart if Kompany leaves. Sheffield United look to be in free fall.

There is a chance to make it up-but don’t bet the farm please. I also think Eze will stay at Palace for another season. Glasner has really got them going and European football is possible if everyone stays. So no crock of gold from there (just yet).
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Which will be strongest on 11:07 - May 17 with 3686 viewsJuzzie

If Luton have gone about it right they'll have spent as little as possible.... upgrade to Kenilworth Road for the PL season and a few players to at least try and compete but without splashing the cash like we did.

This way, their new stadium should be pretty much paid off, or if not a good chunk of it, and it will give them stability for the foreseeable.

I can't see them being a threat until maybe they move to their new ground and the increased income (if the crowds go up to 80%+ capacity so you're looking 18k gates) as well as better facilities for the players (little darlings) will help with maybe becoming a middle-upper Championship team at worst.
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Which will be strongest on 11:22 - May 17 with 3599 viewsNorthernr

Leeds.

Oh no, that's next year isn't it.
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Which will be strongest on 11:23 - May 17 with 3599 viewssevenhoop

don't forget 3 big clubs are coming up too
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Which will be strongest on 11:35 - May 17 with 3547 viewsloftus77

I'd say Burnley - becoming a real yo-yo club. Under Kompany (atm) they have the know-how and certainly the funds. Will surely be top two.

Luton - the rollercoaster adventure is surely over for now. Sheff Utd - too much in-house re-building to do.

Of the teams coming up, could Derby or Pompey do an Ipswich? Unlikely I'd say, but I could see both prospering. Bolton/Oxford - relegation fodder, I would hope.
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Which will be strongest on 11:41 - May 17 with 3497 viewsNorthernr

This is an instructive read from the Bolton owner, who reckons it would require a £20m investment from the ownership group there to be competitive in the Champ next year if promoted...

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24320640.bolton-wanderers-chairman-sharon-
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Which will be strongest on 11:54 - May 17 with 3444 viewsTheChef

Full on goat rodeo next season I think/hope.

Although of the three coming down annoyingly I think Edwards will still do a good job with Lootown - look like becoming the classic yo yo team of too good for the Championship but not good enough for the Prem.

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Which will be strongest on 12:03 - May 17 with 3405 viewsE17hoop

Which will be strongest on 11:41 - May 17 by Northernr

This is an instructive read from the Bolton owner, who reckons it would require a £20m investment from the ownership group there to be competitive in the Champ next year if promoted...

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24320640.bolton-wanderers-chairman-sharon-


Her point about 14 US owners is really interesting. If they voted for round of games in the States, there's nothing which could stop it.

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Which will be strongest on 12:28 - May 17 with 3281 viewsted_hendrix

Which will be strongest on 11:41 - May 17 by Northernr

This is an instructive read from the Bolton owner, who reckons it would require a £20m investment from the ownership group there to be competitive in the Champ next year if promoted...

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24320640.bolton-wanderers-chairman-sharon-


I like what she says, (got to beat Oxford United first though).

''“I have five original investors at Bolton Wanderers who have bought into this journey and done incredible things and supported me as the chairman all the way. If we get promoted on Saturday and everyone said it was incredible, marvellous, wonderful, we move into a world where it isn’t a competition anymore. How can we compete with the clubs that have come down from the Premier League and had parachute payments?''''

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Which will be strongest on 12:59 - May 17 with 3138 viewsJuzzie

Which will be strongest on 12:28 - May 17 by ted_hendrix

I like what she says, (got to beat Oxford United first though).

''“I have five original investors at Bolton Wanderers who have bought into this journey and done incredible things and supported me as the chairman all the way. If we get promoted on Saturday and everyone said it was incredible, marvellous, wonderful, we move into a world where it isn’t a competition anymore. How can we compete with the clubs that have come down from the Premier League and had parachute payments?''''


She has a point but people will just say "Ipswich".
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Which will be strongest on 14:06 - May 17 with 2958 viewsAntti_Heinola

Which will be strongest on 10:10 - May 17 by terryb

Burnley will be the best footballing side of them, but Luton probably the hardest to beat.

Sheffield United could be a bottom third team.


Luton have a good manager and likely won't lose many players - maybe Barkley. They'll be very strong.
Burnley should do well.
Agree with you: Wilder is a busted flush. It was madness bringing him back and he'll be gone by Xmas, with them floundering in 18th.

Bare bones.

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Which will be strongest on 16:16 - May 17 with 2790 viewsNorthernr

Which will be strongest on 12:59 - May 17 by Juzzie

She has a point but people will just say "Ipswich".


Well, yes, but they're a) a bit of a freak and b) haven't done this for free. Their most recent set of accounts, covering their League One promotion season, showed an £18.2m loss, which backs the Bolton chairman's claim up almost to the pound.
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Which will be strongest on 16:29 - May 17 with 2752 viewssimmo

Luton have done it exactly right - kept the better players that got them promoted and added realistic signings that would easily be top Championship players. Doughty, Ogbene, Chong, Giles, Campbell, Adebayo, Morris, Brown etc are all proven players at this level, and you'd imagine they will splash a little more money for similar if any of those move on. Will def be a top 6 favourite next season.

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Which will be strongest on 16:32 - May 17 with 2744 viewsNorthernr

Which will be strongest on 16:29 - May 17 by simmo

Luton have done it exactly right - kept the better players that got them promoted and added realistic signings that would easily be top Championship players. Doughty, Ogbene, Chong, Giles, Campbell, Adebayo, Morris, Brown etc are all proven players at this level, and you'd imagine they will splash a little more money for similar if any of those move on. Will def be a top 6 favourite next season.


Yeh pending what they do this summer it's been almost note perfect for a good season next year.

It's exactly as we should have done it, rather than going absolutely nuts trying to stay there with a load of signings that as soon as you do go down you have to try and offload and start again.

Luton won the play-offs 12 months ago. To that team they've added basically the best of the Championship, and stuck £50m+ in the bank. Bstrds.

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Which will be strongest on 16:43 - May 17 with 2691 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Can see Sheff Utd going straight through to L1, Burnley will be a good bet for playoffs. Luton could win it.
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Which will be strongest on 16:46 - May 17 with 2681 viewsNorthernr

Which will be strongest on 16:43 - May 17 by Wilkinswatercarrier

Can see Sheff Utd going straight through to L1, Burnley will be a good bet for playoffs. Luton could win it.


Very intrigued by Sheff Utd. They needed the promotion in the first place just to keep the lights on (they'd literally turned off their undersoil heating in the second half of the Champ season because they couldn't afford to have it on) so has a year getting trounced upstairs solved all of that or are they in the sht?
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Which will be strongest on 18:37 - May 17 with 2555 viewsAntti_Heinola

Which will be strongest on 16:32 - May 17 by Northernr

Yeh pending what they do this summer it's been almost note perfect for a good season next year.

It's exactly as we should have done it, rather than going absolutely nuts trying to stay there with a load of signings that as soon as you do go down you have to try and offload and start again.

Luton won the play-offs 12 months ago. To that team they've added basically the best of the Championship, and stuck £50m+ in the bank. Bstrds.

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Agree.
But, Barkley felt like EXACTLY the sort of signing we were making. Worked for them, didn’t for us.
Big part of that is the manager.
As you one said, sliding doors: very likely he would have come to us if Beale had left earlier.

Bare bones.

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Which will be strongest on 18:39 - May 17 with 2551 viewsenfieldargh

which other parachute payment clubs will be in the champ.

One of Leeds & Saints, who else?

WBA no longer??

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Which will be strongest on 21:48 - May 17 with 2400 viewsderbyhoop

Both Burnley and Luton should be top 6 contenders. Unless they do something stupid. At least 1 other club will have huge parachute payments. Sheffield United went up, sold 2 of the players that got them there and have been dreadful. Hard to see them having an impact.

I feel the 3 promoted clubs will be happy to finish 21st or better.

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Which will be strongest on 15:48 - May 18 with 2106 viewsloftus77

Which will be strongest on 18:39 - May 17 by enfieldargh

which other parachute payment clubs will be in the champ.

One of Leeds & Saints, who else?

WBA no longer??


Watford and Norwich? Do you still get something in the third year? Not sure.
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Which will be strongest on 17:01 - May 18 with 2053 viewscaptainmycaptian

Which will be strongest on 10:10 - May 17 by terryb

Burnley will be the best footballing side of them, but Luton probably the hardest to beat.

Sheffield United could be a bottom third team.


Sheffield didn't spend and will spend to go up but they may implode. Burnley will be top ish Luton will be a better team for there experience. Not sure any are imploding. It seems team manage there relegation better in recent times.
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Which will be strongest on 09:28 - May 20 with 1839 viewsBAWHoops

The top 3 should really be Burnley, Luton and Saints/Leeds next season.
Am sure that WBA, Norwich, Boro etc will be around the Play Off places also.

As for the teams that have come up, I'd be surprised if any of them went straight through the leaguer. Oxford have got a hell of a job on to survive and Pompey and Derby have been burnt before by reckless spending.

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