| The Welsh Indy march 23:13 - Oct 1 with 13505 views | Catullus |
I am qute surprised none of the indy supporters/Union haters on here have posted about this today?
is it because the turnout of around 10,000 is disappointing and yet more proof that Wales isn't really interested?
SCFC took 3 times as many all the way to London for a football match, Indy being a much more important topic, you'd have thought anyone genuinely, 100% for it would turn up in Cardiff. |  |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:29 - Oct 2 with 1139 views | trampie |
They want to break away from England because England is a lost cause, England is extreme right wing, medieval monarchy, state religion, unelected Lords etc etc
Wales will be stuck with perpetual Tory rule either red or blue if we don't break away, if we want better more caring governance then we need to break away from Westminster. |  |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:32 - Oct 2 with 1136 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Welsh Indy march on 18:40 - Oct 2 by pencoedjack |
The ugliest thickest looking group of people I’ve ever seen on a march.
I’d imagine their giros couldn’t afford the bus fare. |
Whereas Truss, Johnson, Mogg, Matt Hancock and sajid javid are of course universally acclaimed for their good looks.
Likewise King Charles and his brothers, it’s remarkable how they all have such film star looks.
Welsh people like Catherine Zeta Douglas and Richard Burton are simply not as pleasing on the discerning eye ?
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:32 - Oct 2 with 1138 views | Togg |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:29 - Oct 2 by trampie |
They want to break away from England because England is a lost cause, England is extreme right wing, medieval monarchy, state religion, unelected Lords etc etc
Wales will be stuck with perpetual Tory rule either red or blue if we don't break away, if we want better more caring governance then we need to break away from Westminster. |
No it's not. Look at the North West, North East . Very similar people and area. | | | |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:36 - Oct 2 with 1120 views | Kilkennyjack |
Yes many do.
The UK union is the dead embers of an old exploitative Empire that no longer exists. Its not fit for purpose in a modern world. Not a single country who has left the British Empire has ever asked to return.
The EU is a modern trading block with world class standards for the environment and employment rights. Mrs Thatcher was a huge fan. In addition it has helped secure a peaceful Europe where we trade and travel as equals.
No need to thank me for this lesson. | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:38 - Oct 2 with 1122 views | Catullus |
| The Welsh Indy march on 08:44 - Oct 2 by Boundy |
Did you attend this magnificent event ? |
What me? Sorry but  | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:43 - Oct 2 with 1116 views | bennytheblue |
| The Welsh Indy march on 09:34 - Oct 2 by felixstowe_jack |
Least than 2% of the population of our Caaapitaaall turned out for this march. Shows how indy gang just how unpopular their cause is. [Post edited 2 Oct 2022 9:35]
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No chance, no one’s interested in this nonsense, let them have it up north if they want it. Fools |  | | |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:44 - Oct 2 with 1108 views | trampie |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:32 - Oct 2 by Togg |
No it's not. Look at the North West, North East . Very similar people and area. |
I think England is a lost cause, no point looking at the North West or North East as England votes Tory (or very occasionally Red Tory), in Wales there is Plaid, in Scotland SNP, in N.Ireland SDLP/Alliance, in England they are like sheep they just vote Conservative with Lib -Dems second or Labour with Lib-Dems second depending on the constituency.
Due to weight of numbers unless there is a rare unominally then Wales has to put up with what England votes for, Wales used to vote Liberal many moons ago but had to put up with the Tories because England votes Tory then Wales votes Labour but yet again has to put up with Tory Government because England votes Tory. | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:44 - Oct 2 with 1108 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:32 - Oct 2 by Togg |
No it's not. Look at the North West, North East . Very similar people and area. |
Wales last voted Tory in 1859.
If that alone does not tell you that the welsh people do not want Tory rulers then nothing will.
However we get Tory rule because middle England votes them in.
Thats not democracy for Cymru.
Johnson’s corruption, sleaze, and incompetence has killed the union.
Even the Tories themselves agree ….
A Tory grandee has said he fears the “English nationalist” UK Government could “breakup” the union.
Chris Patten, a former Chairman of the Conservative Party, made the comments amid a storm engulfing Boris Johnson’s government following reports of parties held at No 10 during lockdown.
You might benefit frlom reading a bit more before posting ? | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:47 - Oct 2 with 1102 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:38 - Oct 2 by Catullus |
What me? Sorry but |
Were you supporting our team in Birmingham then ?
Or are you just sneering from the sidelines ?
When was the last yoon march you went on ? | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:47 - Oct 2 with 1103 views | Catullus |
| The Welsh Indy march on 09:49 - Oct 2 by BryanSwan |
I didn't realise attendance in Cardiff was mandatory if you are for Indy.
Many of us have lives and jobs which take precedence over marches, football matches and a great deal of other things. |
If something is that important people do funny things like take the day off work, as many do to go to the football or other sports events.
If Indy was really that important to a large amount of Welsh voters I'd expect the crowd to be much bigger. When a football match is more important, i think it says enough.
Attendance wasn't mandatory obviously, as it isn't for sport but when people are trying to convibce us a majority in Wales want it, maybe a larger turnout would help. | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:47 - Oct 2 with 1101 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:43 - Oct 2 by bennytheblue |
No chance, no one’s interested in this nonsense, let them have it up north if they want it. Fools |
Benny by name, and a Benny by nature.
Pity mun. | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:49 - Oct 2 with 1092 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:47 - Oct 2 by Catullus |
If something is that important people do funny things like take the day off work, as many do to go to the football or other sports events.
If Indy was really that important to a large amount of Welsh voters I'd expect the crowd to be much bigger. When a football match is more important, i think it says enough.
Attendance wasn't mandatory obviously, as it isn't for sport but when people are trying to convibce us a majority in Wales want it, maybe a larger turnout would help. |
About 1 in 3 people in Wales do want indy.
Thats a great place to start from.
Its an awful lot higher in the under 40s.
The future is already assured.
The only question is when ? | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:49 - Oct 2 with 1092 views | trampie |
Well in Kilkenny we both write exactly the same sentiments at the same time in response to another poster.  | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:52 - Oct 2 with 1084 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Welsh Indy march on 18:36 - Oct 2 by onehunglow |
They will what .
That include Celtic fans |
Celtic fans do not write policy for the SNP.
Why dont you know that the SNP would retain the crown ?
Comrade Nicola called the Queen ….. ‘Elizabeth, queen of Scots’. | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 20:54 - Oct 2 with 1075 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:49 - Oct 2 by trampie |
Well in Kilkenny we both write exactly the same sentiments at the same time in response to another poster. |
Looking forward to them organising a yoon march in Cardiff and matching 10,000.
I will wait ….. â¤ï¸ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 21:03 - Oct 2 with 1053 views | Catullus |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:36 - Oct 2 by Kilkennyjack |
Yes many do.
The UK union is the dead embers of an old exploitative Empire that no longer exists. Its not fit for purpose in a modern world. Not a single country who has left the British Empire has ever asked to return.
The EU is a modern trading block with world class standards for the environment and employment rights. Mrs Thatcher was a huge fan. In addition it has helped secure a peaceful Europe where we trade and travel as equals.
No need to thank me for this lesson. |
Oh god. The EU helped to trigger the Russian invasin of Ukraine by courting Ukraine. The EU has heped to cause the massive inflation of utilities because they became so reliant on Russian gas. The EU's CAP is responsible for so much of the pollution in the Baltic sea because of run off from farming waste. The EU is not just a trading bloc. It was the EU tax laws that allowed corporations to avoid paying billions of tax in the UK, they tried to change that bt self interest defeated them because they could not get 100% for it, Ireland and Luxembourg voted against to start with because they bth gain from those laws. Mrs Thatcher was a fan of a trading bloc, not the Empire building the EU indukges in, the riony there Kilky is you don't like Empires, unless it's the EU obviously. | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 07:50 - Oct 3 with 1008 views | BryanSwan |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:47 - Oct 2 by Catullus |
If something is that important people do funny things like take the day off work, as many do to go to the football or other sports events.
If Indy was really that important to a large amount of Welsh voters I'd expect the crowd to be much bigger. When a football match is more important, i think it says enough.
Attendance wasn't mandatory obviously, as it isn't for sport but when people are trying to convibce us a majority in Wales want it, maybe a larger turnout would help. |
I don't know many who would rather spend a day wandering around Cardiff, London or wherever for a political cause.
Most of us have families, jobs and lives. Spending however many hours wandering around no matter what the cause isnt really mine or my friends cup of tea. | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 07:57 - Oct 3 with 1003 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Welsh Indy march on 07:50 - Oct 3 by BryanSwan |
I don't know many who would rather spend a day wandering around Cardiff, London or wherever for a political cause.
Most of us have families, jobs and lives. Spending however many hours wandering around no matter what the cause isnt really mine or my friends cup of tea. |
Cat put firmly in his place.
Cat you should do a Tory u-turn on this one today because you are well out of line with reality.
When was the last march Cat attended anyway ? [Post edited 3 Oct 2022 7:58]
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| The Welsh Indy march on 08:39 - Oct 3 with 994 views | Togg |
| The Welsh Indy march on 07:57 - Oct 3 by Kilkennyjack |
Cat put firmly in his place.
Cat you should do a Tory u-turn on this one today because you are well out of line with reality.
When was the last march Cat attended anyway ? [Post edited 3 Oct 2022 7:58]
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Well I must mix in different circles because I don't know anyone young or old who wants independence. I do a lot of work in the border areas and holiday a few times a year in Devon. I feel that's my country also. | | | |
| The Welsh Indy march on 10:13 - Oct 3 with 960 views | Catullus |
| The Welsh Indy march on 07:50 - Oct 3 by BryanSwan |
I don't know many who would rather spend a day wandering around Cardiff, London or wherever for a political cause.
Most of us have families, jobs and lives. Spending however many hours wandering around no matter what the cause isnt really mine or my friends cup of tea. |
Maybe you aren't that strong a supporter of Indy then because anyone truly, 100% committed to an Indy Wales would make the effort.
Besides, it wasn't about "wandering around Cardiff" was it, it was a political protest with a fixed route. Many of those people on that march took their families with them, those people are committed to the cause. Anybody who couldn't be bothered is merely accepting the status quo. | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 10:45 - Oct 3 with 946 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The Welsh Indy march on 20:49 - Oct 2 by Kilkennyjack |
About 1 in 3 people in Wales do want indy.
Thats a great place to start from.
Its an awful lot higher in the under 40s.
The future is already assured.
The only question is when ? |
1 in 4 according to the latest poll 24% . In the same poll 26% wanted to abolish the Senedd. More people want to abolish the Senedd than want independence says it really.
Of course you keep forgetting the majority in Wales voted to leave the corrupt undemocratic EU which stands for protectionism rather than Global trade. | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 11:05 - Oct 3 with 933 views | BryanSwan |
| The Welsh Indy march on 10:13 - Oct 3 by Catullus |
Maybe you aren't that strong a supporter of Indy then because anyone truly, 100% committed to an Indy Wales would make the effort.
Besides, it wasn't about "wandering around Cardiff" was it, it was a political protest with a fixed route. Many of those people on that march took their families with them, those people are committed to the cause. Anybody who couldn't be bothered is merely accepting the status quo. |
I see, might i just ask if you were at West Brom? (Because if not you mustn't be a true Swansea supporter)
Surely you can see what a ridiculous point you are trying to make. | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 11:42 - Oct 3 with 917 views | Catullus |
| The Welsh Indy march on 11:05 - Oct 3 by BryanSwan |
I see, might i just ask if you were at West Brom? (Because if not you mustn't be a true Swansea supporter)
Surely you can see what a ridiculous point you are trying to make. |
I was at West Brom actually. I used to go away very often but surely Welsh independence is a much more important issue than a football match. Hence my earlier comment, if people will take days off for a football match then why not for a political rally?
It's not at all ridiculous. people have started wars to fight for independence, how many have been started over football.
Or are you seriously suggesting football is more important than the future of Wales? | |
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| The Welsh Indy march on 12:31 - Oct 3 with 900 views | union_jack |
| The Welsh Indy march on 10:45 - Oct 3 by felixstowe_jack |
1 in 4 according to the latest poll 24% . In the same poll 26% wanted to abolish the Senedd. More people want to abolish the Senedd than want independence says it really.
Of course you keep forgetting the majority in Wales voted to leave the corrupt undemocratic EU which stands for protectionism rather than Global trade. |
Disappointing figures those really.
It highlights that as many as 24 in every 100 are dumber than dumb itself and only 26 in every 200 are showing any sense.😠|  |
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