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Presidential Historians rating 13:37 - Feb 19 with 6489 viewsCatullus

Well then, I guess at least there's a fair chance Biden will do worse but in at number 41 out of 44, the Donald,

https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Presidential Historians rating on 13:59 - Feb 19 with 4441 viewsDr_Parnassus

You are obsessed man

I think his ratings showed how well he was doing, the Democrats hated it and rallied behind the effort to slate him, combined with the media onslaught and social media shenanigans - its remarkable it isn't lower... where as other years they all may well be apathetic.

You also say historians, but it was professors and other similar professions too (almost all participants were University employees) which contributed, just over 140 participants, we all know the Universities allegiances, they are anti Trump training grounds.

Put it this way, he is favorite for the next Presidency for a reason....
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Presidential Historians rating on 14:15 - Feb 19 with 4417 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Just because Biden is not Trump does not mean he's competent.

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Presidential Historians rating on 14:15 - Feb 19 by JACKMANANDBOY

Just because Biden is not Trump does not mean he's competent.


Biden could be the President for 20-30 years and still not achieve what the Trump administration did in a single term.

People won't like to hear that but I think most know that's the truth, whether people would admit that however is a different matter altogether.

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Presidential Historians rating on 14:19 - Feb 19 by Dr_Parnassus

Biden could be the President for 20-30 years and still not achieve what the Trump administration did in a single term.

People won't like to hear that but I think most know that's the truth, whether people would admit that however is a different matter altogether.


All Trump achieved was destabilising the globe.
Look behind his figures and US achieved nothing much. Plenty of covid deaths and an explosion of hate.
'anti Trump training grounds' you mean anti-fascist thinking. Could have done with them in Germany in the 1920s and UK in the 2020s.

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Presidential Historians rating on 14:45 - Feb 19 with 4386 viewsDr_Parnassus

Presidential Historians rating on 14:29 - Feb 19 by Badlands

All Trump achieved was destabilising the globe.
Look behind his figures and US achieved nothing much. Plenty of covid deaths and an explosion of hate.
'anti Trump training grounds' you mean anti-fascist thinking. Could have done with them in Germany in the 1920s and UK in the 2020s.


Everyone had Covid deaths, it was a pandemic, don't be so disingenuous.

Biden was saying how he would handle it better, yet there have been more deaths under his short reign than under Trumps - and that is with a vaccine. Don't hear many news outlets beating that drum though do you?

Trump achieved:-

- the lowest unemployment figures in half a century
- unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years
- 7 million people off food stamps
- record low unemployment for African Americans and Native Americans
- highest median family income in history
- the bottom 50% of American households saw a 40% increase in net worth
- peace deals in the Middle East which Obama said was impossible
- no new conflicts
- peace between North and South Korea
- historic talks with North Korea and USA
- income rose in every single metro area in the United States for the first time in nearly 3 decades.

This is without touching upon his tax relief bills, deregulation, trade and productivity.

Happy to go into them though if you want to?

Now do a similar list for Biden and let's compare.

As for Anti Trump training grounds, I mean just that. Often (ironically) using fascism as a vessel to promote it, rejecting free speech, physically attacking and ousting any thought different from theirs, intimidation of political opponents and the rejection of any dialogue - those were the types of people our Grandfather's fought in Germany in the 1930's and 40's.
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Presidential Historians rating on 14:54 - Feb 19 with 4369 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Presidential Historians rating on 14:29 - Feb 19 by Badlands

All Trump achieved was destabilising the globe.
Look behind his figures and US achieved nothing much. Plenty of covid deaths and an explosion of hate.
'anti Trump training grounds' you mean anti-fascist thinking. Could have done with them in Germany in the 1920s and UK in the 2020s.


I'm no Trump fan but Biden has a list of failures already:

Mexico border - deaths at all time high at end of 2021, now employing Trump's policies!
Covid vaccine mandates failure and testing supplies, Covid deaths still over 2000 a day.
Afghanistan withdrawal messed up, now a humanitarian crisis.
Inflation - pumped trillions into a economy with supply shortages, guess what happens
Trying to change Senate rules to force through changes to voting procedures in time for mid terms, imagine if Trump tried that!
Ukraine - he needs to get NATO unified or this will be a real challenge to reset.
Gun crime, deaths at record levels.

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Presidential Historians rating on 15:02 - Feb 19 with 4358 viewsDr_Parnassus

Presidential Historians rating on 14:54 - Feb 19 by JACKMANANDBOY

I'm no Trump fan but Biden has a list of failures already:

Mexico border - deaths at all time high at end of 2021, now employing Trump's policies!
Covid vaccine mandates failure and testing supplies, Covid deaths still over 2000 a day.
Afghanistan withdrawal messed up, now a humanitarian crisis.
Inflation - pumped trillions into a economy with supply shortages, guess what happens
Trying to change Senate rules to force through changes to voting procedures in time for mid terms, imagine if Trump tried that!
Ukraine - he needs to get NATO unified or this will be a real challenge to reset.
Gun crime, deaths at record levels.


I thought Obama was bad, but this guy and Kamala take the biscuit.

Worst Presidential administration certainly in my lifetime - and I would say potentially in history by the time it is at an end.

The border crisis was always going to be one big disaster. There was a clear issue there, Mexicans said it themselves - yet they (Dems) were too busy trying to win votes by pretending such a fact was racist. Their favorite canvassing technique of course.

Now they have taken over and have absolutely no idea what to do with it, except admit Trump was correct all along by their actions and quietly reinstate what he put in place and hope nobody notices.

His international policy is a travesty, Afghanistan in crisis, Ukraine and Russia conflict being ramped up by him - this administration is a walking disaster.

The fact we hear very little about it speaks volumes. As you quite correctly said, if this was Trump he would be slaughtered - and of course Catullus would be filling up the front page with threads claiming impartiality...

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Presidential Historians rating on 15:21 - Feb 19 with 4348 viewsbritferry

Nixon did better than I thought

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Presidential Historians rating on 15:27 - Feb 19 with 4331 viewsAjack_Kerouac

People who claimed that Trump was mentally unfit to govern but then supported this guy's Presidency...

https://rumble.com/vv93iz-joe-bidens-most-embarrassing-gaffes-of-all-time-super-

...are moral degenerates, pure and simple.
Unashamed liars.

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Trump wasn’t a warmonger like Biden is and like Obama, Clinton, Bush were.
There was relative peace under Trump.

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Presidential Historians rating on 14:43 - Feb 20 with 4214 viewsCatullus

Presidential Historians rating on 15:02 - Feb 19 by Dr_Parnassus

I thought Obama was bad, but this guy and Kamala take the biscuit.

Worst Presidential administration certainly in my lifetime - and I would say potentially in history by the time it is at an end.

The border crisis was always going to be one big disaster. There was a clear issue there, Mexicans said it themselves - yet they (Dems) were too busy trying to win votes by pretending such a fact was racist. Their favorite canvassing technique of course.

Now they have taken over and have absolutely no idea what to do with it, except admit Trump was correct all along by their actions and quietly reinstate what he put in place and hope nobody notices.

His international policy is a travesty, Afghanistan in crisis, Ukraine and Russia conflict being ramped up by him - this administration is a walking disaster.

The fact we hear very little about it speaks volumes. As you quite correctly said, if this was Trump he would be slaughtered - and of course Catullus would be filling up the front page with threads claiming impartiality...


I don't caim to be impartial over trump I am just not a partisan hater of him. I treat all politicans the same way.

I started this thread to see who jumped in to defend Trump and along you came, quite predictably.

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Presidential Historians rating on 17:50 - Feb 20 with 4173 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Remember this...
The actual 'coup' or 'insurrection' was the one committed by Democrats against President Trump (who was elected by the American people).

They spied on his campaign and they spied on his Presidency, they tried to remove him from office by concocting the Russia hoax.
They did this with the help of the media who are a fecking disgrace and all deserve what's coming to them.
Then when their plans to remove Trump didn't work and the polls showed that he was in fact more popular than ever (having achieved a lot of tangible positives for those at the bottom of the pyramid) a mysterious bio weapon was released from a Chinese lab and the Left across the West colluded to shut us down and then riot across our countries, attacking our institutions and our history...then the Presidential election was fixed.

They have declared war on their own people, their own working class.



Who organised the spying and the Russia hoax?
Sitting Democrat President Obama and Democrat Presidential nominee Hilary Clinton (who is responsible for the mess in the Ukraine and whose husband was one of Epstein's most valued clients)).

...but how did they go about it, right back at the beginning?
A Brookings Institute official and Russian policy specialist Fiona Hill introduced Christopher Steele to Igor Danchenko so they could write the dossier together.
She did not know what she was doing, she was set up by her boss Strobe Talbott...
who he?
Strobe Talbott had served under Bill Clinton during his Presidency, a long time Clinton ally...

For more info on the liars and the lies involved in the Russia Hoax, look here;
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/anti-trump-frenzy-threatens-to-end-sup


To watch testimony from Fiona Hill where she admits that she had been duped, where she states that she knew from the start that the Steele dossier was "a trip down a rabbit hole" and she confesses that she now knows that it was the DNC...the Democrat National Congress, the party...who paid for the concoction of the Russia Hoax...
watch here;
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fiona-hill-brookings-steele-dossier



Once you understand that they took part in a criminal enterprise of historic proportions, all of their actions since makes perfect sense. It is why they fixed the last election and why they will do everything they can to fix future elections...because if they lose, they are going to jail.
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Presidential Historians rating on 15:44 - Feb 21 with 4112 viewsAjack_Kerouac

It is now proved that the Democrat party committed a crime orders of magnitude greater than Watergate.

The Left think if they stay silent it will go away, don't let them take you for mugs.

Every arsehole who spread the Russia hoax lies on here should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, a lot of them are incapable of shame however.

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Presidential Historians rating on 15:44 - Feb 21 by Ajack_Kerouac

It is now proved that the Democrat party committed a crime orders of magnitude greater than Watergate.

The Left think if they stay silent it will go away, don't let them take you for mugs.

Every arsehole who spread the Russia hoax lies on here should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, a lot of them are incapable of shame however.


Most of them spend their time hiding on the other forum and only venture on here occasionally to back each other up or attack in groups.
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Presidential Historians rating on 14:19 - Feb 19 by Dr_Parnassus

Biden could be the President for 20-30 years and still not achieve what the Trump administration did in a single term.

People won't like to hear that but I think most know that's the truth, whether people would admit that however is a different matter altogether.


I agree, no president in history could sow the same level of division and corruption as Trump.

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Presidential Historians rating on 21:23 - Feb 21 with 4067 viewsAjack_Kerouac

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I agree, no president in history could sow the same level of division and corruption as Trump.


What corruption? Give some examples...


Biden
- Son takes money for him from Ukraine
- Son takes money for him from China ($50m)
- Son is a crack addict degenerate yet Democrats keep the evidence out of the media

Clintons
- Sex pest client of Epstein
- Rapist
- Takes bribe money from Ukraine
- Keeps their foundation that hoovers up foreign bribes going whilst in office, has to circumnavigate government rules to hide the evidence (the e-mails)
- Orders covert spying operation on her political ooponent
- Orders covert spying operation on a sitting elected President
- Pays for the production of a dossier of lies to smear her political opponent
- potentially orders an assassination of Seth Rich to cover up her corruption in rigging the DNC vote against Bernie Sanders.


Nancy Pelosi
- makes hundreds of millions of dollars off insider trading for decades.

The whole of the DNC and their associates
- fix a fecking election.




You people need to shut up about corruption at this point.

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Presidential Historians rating on 22:38 - Feb 21 with 4045 viewsDr_Parnassus

Presidential Historians rating on 14:43 - Feb 20 by Catullus

I don't caim to be impartial over trump I am just not a partisan hater of him. I treat all politicans the same way.

I started this thread to see who jumped in to defend Trump and along you came, quite predictably.


But you don’t treat all politicians the same way, that’s just false. Hence why you said nothing about the 12 months of riots that could be put at the Democrat politicians door then suddenly got all outraged when you thought there was an angle to blame Trump for one.

I am not defending anyone, I am adding common sense to a senseless topic. That’s the thing when it comes to Trump, people intentionally ignore reason, reality and context in order to paint their own. Going to University professors to give a political opinion as pretending it’s balanced is like going to a Texas bull riding competition and asking them.

I will always add balance to your anti Trump nonsense. Same as I do when Steve Cooper is lied about in order for people to slate him, I add balance and of course as a result I was correct to do so, as he is one of the hottest managerial properties in the the U.K. outside the Premier League.

Same goes for Trump, you stamp your feet about how bad he is - I will tell you what he achieved and ask you to let me know how others compare.

Didn’t expect an answer to that, and I was right to expect that. Facts spread far louder than partisan hit pieces.

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Presidential Historians rating on 21:11 - Feb 21 by Ebo

I agree, no president in history could sow the same level of division and corruption as Trump.


What kind of division are you talking about exactly?

People not liking someone isn’t being divisive. It’s people being divided, massive difference.

Democrats firstly blamed Russia and said that’s the only reason he got in, but now we will see how far the country slips….

America was thriving everywhere and was making Obama’s Presidency look like a disaster. They couldn’t have that so they used the George Floyd incident as a pretext to ruin the country themselves.

In terms of Presidential administrations, it was probably the best one in my lifetime. Happy to compare achievements if you know of any others?

Again, there is a reason America is clamouring for him back. They have realised the lies they were fed, the race fallacy that was yet again wheeled out, the manipulation and the media attacks were all orchestrated political tools rather than depictions of reality. People feel duped, played and foolish, especially now this administration has sunk the country to new depths.

If he runs, he wins. It’s simply up to him whether he wants to.


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Presidential Historians rating on 21:23 - Feb 21 by Ajack_Kerouac

What corruption? Give some examples...


Biden
- Son takes money for him from Ukraine
- Son takes money for him from China ($50m)
- Son is a crack addict degenerate yet Democrats keep the evidence out of the media

Clintons
- Sex pest client of Epstein
- Rapist
- Takes bribe money from Ukraine
- Keeps their foundation that hoovers up foreign bribes going whilst in office, has to circumnavigate government rules to hide the evidence (the e-mails)
- Orders covert spying operation on her political ooponent
- Orders covert spying operation on a sitting elected President
- Pays for the production of a dossier of lies to smear her political opponent
- potentially orders an assassination of Seth Rich to cover up her corruption in rigging the DNC vote against Bernie Sanders.


Nancy Pelosi
- makes hundreds of millions of dollars off insider trading for decades.

The whole of the DNC and their associates
- fix a fecking election.




You people need to shut up about corruption at this point.


https://www.republicreport.org/2020/ten-reasons-trump-is-the-most-corrupt-presid

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Presidential Historians rating on 00:03 - Feb 22 with 4021 viewsDr_Parnassus

Presidential Historians rating on 23:55 - Feb 21 by Ebo

https://www.republicreport.org/2020/ten-reasons-trump-is-the-most-corrupt-presid






So an author in queer theory and critical race theory - writing for an extreme left wing publication.

What could possibly go wrong for impartiality there?

May as well get Catullus to knock an article together.

P.S. - just read it. What an abomination of an article that is.

He says Trump is racist because he once called someone (who happened to be black) “low IQ”. So nobody who has a different skin colour can be insulted for incompetence now, or you are racist?

He went on to say he is keeping Latinx (it’s the radical leftist way of writing Latino) out of the country. He means after clamping down on ILLEGAL immigration, a lot of which was introduced by Obama and Biden - he goes on to talk about separating children from parents, again a practice introduced by Obama and Biden.

Does the “author” (activist) know that Mexico also have a border wall and keep out illegal immigrants from Guatemala - are they racist too?

This leftist world is utterly mad. Devoid of common sense and fact, I really hope the next election stops the spread as it’s intentional dishonesty is dangerous. Very dangerous.
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https://www.republicreport.org/2020/ten-reasons-trump-is-the-most-corrupt-presid



Pathetic.

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Presidential Historians rating on 00:39 - Feb 22 by Ajack_Kerouac


Pathetic.


But this is the level of intelligence and knowledge that the likes of the poster agree with and listen to.
Total Trump Derangement Syndrom in all it's glory.
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Presidential Historians rating on 12:27 - Feb 22 with 3945 viewsAjack_Kerouac

It starts with education.
The Left has destroyed critical thinking.
They don't believe in a quest for the truth...which is truly what Science is.
They believe in;
"This is my truth, tell me yours"

...and they believe that their truth is more valid because it has morality baked into it (nothing could be further from the truth of course).

It is faith, what we are dealing with. The Left have constructed their own fanatic religion, a belief system.


This fella has come up with ways to break those of them still capable of logic...








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Presidential Historians rating on 22:38 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus

But you don’t treat all politicians the same way, that’s just false. Hence why you said nothing about the 12 months of riots that could be put at the Democrat politicians door then suddenly got all outraged when you thought there was an angle to blame Trump for one.

I am not defending anyone, I am adding common sense to a senseless topic. That’s the thing when it comes to Trump, people intentionally ignore reason, reality and context in order to paint their own. Going to University professors to give a political opinion as pretending it’s balanced is like going to a Texas bull riding competition and asking them.

I will always add balance to your anti Trump nonsense. Same as I do when Steve Cooper is lied about in order for people to slate him, I add balance and of course as a result I was correct to do so, as he is one of the hottest managerial properties in the the U.K. outside the Premier League.

Same goes for Trump, you stamp your feet about how bad he is - I will tell you what he achieved and ask you to let me know how others compare.

Didn’t expect an answer to that, and I was right to expect that. Facts spread far louder than partisan hit pieces.


Not this rubbish again. recently when I said I'd criticised Harris you claimed it was only after you had prompted me, so which is it, did I or didn't I?

I may not have said as much about Biden but then sleepy Joe isn't under investigation and accused of, well, lots of stuff. Even so, can you show me where I have said anything good about Biden?

If I am critical of both then I'm treating them the same. Except in your world, the world of a partisan Trump supporter!
This thread was started for a good reason, not because I wanted to bash Trump but to demostrate again who comes to his defence. The link is not my opinion but the opinion of an American institution that measures the good or bad exactly the same way for every POTUS.
It is quite possible that Sleep Joe will be lower down in the ranking, time will tell. If Biden finishes higher than Trump though, and I post that link, i expect you to come along to rubbish it with your self professed logic and common sense.

Having such a high opinion of your own opinion isn't really a great benchmark.

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