| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal 01:02 - Feb 7 with 23060 views | KeithHaynes |
A disgraceful piece of behaviour from the favoured Not Loyal who after agreeing to supply Swansea Independent with every match day thread this season he has gone missing. We have spoken to his representatives but all we are hearing is he isn’t happy. His Mrs states he isn’t in the right frame of mind so we have sent some site representatives round to his house to assess him. It seems he really isn’t ready to supply us with this Tuesdays match day thread so we can only assume he is getting in some training.
We can’t wait 😂
Everyone is hanging on tender hooks for this one.
Any swans fan not going can subscribe to swans tv.
Maybe some will be daring enough to surf the web for a free view.
Even the hardiest of souls on a midweek think twice about their travel plans with
School, work and just life itself getting in the way.
Stick with us, Swansea Independent.
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Stoke City: Joe Bursik, Joe Allen (captain), Tyrese Campbell, Josh Tymon, Ben Wilmot, Jacob Brown, Phil Jagielka, Taylor Harwood-Bellis, Nick Powell, Lewis Baker, Jaden Philogene-Bidace.
Substitutes: Jack Bonham, Tommy Smith, Liam Moore, Sam Clucas, Steven Fletcher, D'Margio Wright-Phillips, Josh Maja.
Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Ryan Bennett, Flynn Downes, Ben Cabango; Cyrus Christie, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Hannes Wolf; Korey Smith, Olivier Ntcham; Michael Obafemi.
Substitutes: Ben Hamer, Jamie Paterson, Kyle Joseph, Joel Piroe, Yan Dhanda, Joel Latibeaudiere, Finley Burns.
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 23:12 - Feb 8 with 1555 views | jack_lord |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 22:48 - Feb 8 by AndyCole |
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It's common knowledge down here in South Gower. Fact. I'm sure UJ would concur.
Just pop in to Shepherd's for a mocha......you'll see.
The point is, Martin seems to get preferential treatment (case in point, lording it in Gower's most luxurious mansion). Excuses are made, he's untouchable, the sheeple fans have fallen for him with undying love.
There's none so blind as those who will not see.
There's none so blind as those who have fallen for the wokeish PR machine. Like Daps.
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Martin Morgan had bought a fab mansion in Groves Avenue in Langland. Has he got another one in Gower?
I said before the game we were playing the wrong team especially against Stoke. They murdered us at the start because we were playing suicide football again. When will the gaffer learn and adapt. I can see what he wants to do but we have no where near the quality to perform those intricacies.
Worse we have thrown an inexperienced keeper in at the deepest end which is unacceptable when we have an excellent shot stopper being sent out to help another club.
Back to our style. We don't have the quality and this is exacerbated by the lack of leadership on the pitch. Grimes can play but he is not a leader. I can't really see any leaders in the line up. Maybe Downes but we have to stop this suicide ball and change it to give our players a chance of not getting sent off because of stupid balls because of the suicide game. |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 23:29 - Feb 8 with 1488 views | AndyCole |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 23:09 - Feb 8 by Luther27 |
Morgan hires the manager….I’m sure he has input with the Yanks…. who then pays him rent. A pretty good financial model that….especially if said manager is failing to deliver. |
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And the plot possibly thickens.
Yet all the pseudo anti-sellouts are uncannily so forgiving of brand Martine.
Something's not right.
Where's the 'Trust' in all this shenanigans, nowadays ? Blindly oblivious, as per ? Or conspicuously absent, as per ?
Isn't the Trust meant to be all over this kind of thing ?
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 23:35 - Feb 8 with 1481 views | Professor |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 22:46 - Feb 8 by PawelAbbott |
There is a good 4-5-1 lineup there.
Obafemi and Wolf out wide, Piroe in the middle with Paterson behind him. |
I tend to agree. | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 00:03 - Feb 9 with 1424 views | lifelong |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 21:53 - Feb 8 by onehunglow |
Not sire about others but I have-months ago
It's what makes me the vile creature I am that lifeling etc love |
Perhaps you could spell my username correctly?
Hope you enjoyed this evening with your laughing smiley and all. Swans supporter? You’re having a laugh. |  | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 01:00 - Feb 9 with 1366 views | Badlands |
A long night 😵â€ðŸ’«
Weak performance but not surprised given the physicality of Stoke, the number of games in a short time and the intensity of the second half on Saturday.
A few days rest and we'll get three points on Sunday. |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 01:49 - Feb 9 with 1331 views | Chief |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 23:29 - Feb 8 by AndyCole |
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And the plot possibly thickens.
Yet all the pseudo anti-sellouts are uncannily so forgiving of brand Martine.
Something's not right.
Where's the 'Trust' in all this shenanigans, nowadays ? Blindly oblivious, as per ? Or conspicuously absent, as per ?
Isn't the Trust meant to be all over this kind of thing ?
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What kind of 'thing' is this? |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 02:03 - Feb 9 with 1320 views | AndyCole |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 01:49 - Feb 9 by Chief |
What kind of 'thing' is this? |
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What do You think, 'Chief' ?
As a starter for ten (well, 6 for now), whilst you're cogitating as per :
- Proper senseless BS, week in week out
- The Process - what process ? what outcomes ?
- Overt PR spin - it's all about the brand, the long term
- Lack of due diligence, in appointment - zero achievement
- Blind faith in an unproven brand
- Brand alignment with brand Martin Morgan - etc etc.........
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 02:09 - Feb 9 with 1321 views | Chief |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 02:03 - Feb 9 by AndyCole |
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What do You think, 'Chief' ?
As a starter for ten (well, 6 for now), whilst you're cogitating as per :
- Proper senseless BS, week in week out
- The Process - what process ? what outcomes ?
- Overt PR spin - it's all about the brand, the long term
- Lack of due diligence, in appointment - zero achievement
- Blind faith in an unproven brand
- Brand alignment with brand Martin Morgan - etc etc.........
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I think where he lives or what coffee he drinks has zero bearing on the performance on the pitch. And I don't think the trust should concern themselves on which cafés Martin frequents. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 02:18 - Feb 9 with 1310 views | AndyCole |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 02:09 - Feb 9 by Chief |
I think where he lives or what coffee he drinks has zero bearing on the performance on the pitch. And I don't think the trust should concern themselves on which cafés Martin frequents. |
Oh dear.
Chief abstains, lost for words, yet again.
'The Thing is': for the likes of you and The Trust (lol) to establish, and defend the crass decision making. And articulate the rationale to us fans.
Give it your best shot, 'Chief'. Before you yet again run for cover.
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 06:21 - Feb 9 with 1221 views | angryjack |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 01:00 - Feb 9 by Badlands |
A long night 😵â€ðŸ’«
Weak performance but not surprised given the physicality of Stoke, the number of games in a short time and the intensity of the second half on Saturday.
A few days rest and we'll get three points on Sunday. |
Get your napper..out of the sand | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 07:30 - Feb 9 with 1165 views | owainglyndwr |
Did I hear our fans singing ....we've had a shot ?
After their keeper made a save |  | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 07:37 - Feb 9 with 1161 views | sw02sea |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 22:25 - Feb 8 by STID2017 |
How the hell would he know ? |
He’s actually living in a Swans rented house in the new Westacre estate in Gower Rd upper Killay. I only know because a mate of mine lives opposite him. | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 07:43 - Feb 9 with 1151 views | shingle |
This manager has never finished in the top half of a league is this true, so he has done nothing of note in the past and is obviously not doing to well here, so where does all this trust and adulation come from it has to come from the ones who are taken in by his propaganda excuses and endless spiel saying that I have said from the beginning if it was a manager talking contest we would be top of the table. | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 07:45 - Feb 9 with 1143 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 06:26 - Feb 9 by PawelAbbott |
The Red cards aren't from ill discipline, they are brought about by the constant pressure the defence are under.
The insistence on playing it out slowly from the back results in players giving poor passes under pressure. They then either lose it and are struggling to defend constantly, or are given poor passes that they are attempting to rescue.
Look at the yellow card yesterday. It all comes from a poor pass right across our half of the pitch. It's about 40 yards attempting to pick out a player who is marked. We try to play possession around the back with huge gaps between players. It is suicidal.
Martin has had almost 3 seasons in management and has been poor in all 3.
There are so many better managers in the world. Why persist any longer with one who has never been able to win games [Post edited 9 Feb 2022 6:51]
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It’s a mixture of both, you are right a large part of it is down to the system they are made to play and the pressure they are under when (not if) they lose the ball.
Take Flyyn Downes red for example, that first yellow was in the QPR half with the player being pushed wide, no need to lunge in like that. Then he reacted to some stuff from Austin which got him sent off.
But taking a particularly indisciplined period of one month from each of his two clubs and seeing a cross section of time where there was 7 red cards in 10 games is astonishing. You would struggle to find that anywhere else.
But just like the “individual errors” - a lot of all this is the product of the system. |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 07:53 - Feb 9 with 1135 views | Chief |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 02:18 - Feb 9 by AndyCole |
Oh dear.
Chief abstains, lost for words, yet again.
'The Thing is': for the likes of you and The Trust (lol) to establish, and defend the crass decision making. And articulate the rationale to us fans.
Give it your best shot, 'Chief'. Before you yet again run for cover.
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You missed your opening dot. Your dot game is terribly inconsistent.
Complete lack of substance in the words themselves too. We're rubbish but where Martin lives in and what hot drinks he favours is apparently important.
Hot chocolate man myself so I'm certainly not defending his decision to have s mocha. Deplorable choice. I'll raise it at the trust AGM. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 09:46 - Feb 9 with 982 views | PawelAbbott |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 07:45 - Feb 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
It’s a mixture of both, you are right a large part of it is down to the system they are made to play and the pressure they are under when (not if) they lose the ball.
Take Flyyn Downes red for example, that first yellow was in the QPR half with the player being pushed wide, no need to lunge in like that. Then he reacted to some stuff from Austin which got him sent off.
But taking a particularly indisciplined period of one month from each of his two clubs and seeing a cross section of time where there was 7 red cards in 10 games is astonishing. You would struggle to find that anywhere else.
But just like the “individual errors” - a lot of all this is the product of the system. |
When we played possession football previously, the players would make themselves available for an easy pass. Leon would constantly be giving a short option to the defender with the ball. If necessary so would the Keeper. Now, no one is doing that. The midfield are miles from the back 4 when under pressure or even when possession is lost. How often do we see us lose possession and then it's the attacking side swarming forward at the back 3, with no midfield in sight.
Martin hasn't got a clue | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 09:58 - Feb 9 with 958 views | Catullus |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 07:53 - Feb 9 by Chief |
You missed your opening dot. Your dot game is terribly inconsistent.
Complete lack of substance in the words themselves too. We're rubbish but where Martin lives in and what hot drinks he favours is apparently important.
Hot chocolate man myself so I'm certainly not defending his decision to have s mocha. Deplorable choice. I'll raise it at the trust AGM. |
Considering he's a vegan he doesn't half like feeding us a load of bull.
I didn't see the game last night, I'd gone to bed because I'm up for work at 2am. This morning I saw a text from a mate,
Can put up with losing, we are used to it but that performance tonight is absolutely unacceptable!!!!! really can't remember us being that bad!!!
This morning I've been reading up on last night and I have to say, we are going backwards. The more we give Martin what he wants, the worse we are getting and then Martin comes out with a load of excuses blaming everyone and everything, except himself.
I was critical of Cooper (here comes the Cooper stick!) but he'd be doing something with this squad. Lets face it, there's few posters off here who couldn't do any worse. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 10:00 - Feb 9 with 947 views | jack_lord |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 09:46 - Feb 9 by PawelAbbott |
When we played possession football previously, the players would make themselves available for an easy pass. Leon would constantly be giving a short option to the defender with the ball. If necessary so would the Keeper. Now, no one is doing that. The midfield are miles from the back 4 when under pressure or even when possession is lost. How often do we see us lose possession and then it's the attacking side swarming forward at the back 3, with no midfield in sight.
Martin hasn't got a clue |
And what is worse is he is blaming the players.
Pass and move, effective triangles which Leon was brilliant at. Telegraph passes at this level are football suicide. It needs to be adapted if we want to progress. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 10:04 - Feb 9 with 942 views | PawelAbbott |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 10:00 - Feb 9 by jack_lord |
And what is worse is he is blaming the players.
Pass and move, effective triangles which Leon was brilliant at. Telegraph passes at this level are football suicide. It needs to be adapted if we want to progress. |
Totally agree. It's just the basics. Players making themselves available to collect a pass | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 10:05 - Feb 9 with 941 views | 3swan |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 10:00 - Feb 9 by jack_lord |
And what is worse is he is blaming the players.
Pass and move, effective triangles which Leon was brilliant at. Telegraph passes at this level are football suicide. It needs to be adapted if we want to progress. |
I was going to post earlier but now that you've mentioned Leon.
He was a master at what he did, he did it because he was always looking around and had a picture in his head of options and danger Our players seem to wait to receive the ball before reading the situation. | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 10:10 - Feb 9 with 925 views | jack_lord |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 10:04 - Feb 9 by PawelAbbott |
Totally agree. It's just the basics. Players making themselves available to collect a pass |
Absolutely and if the players do not make themselves available ( ALA Ki ) then blame the players. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 10:39 - Feb 9 with 888 views | onehunglow |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match Day Thread ( Not ) Not Loyal on 23:12 - Feb 8 by jack_lord |
Martin Morgan had bought a fab mansion in Groves Avenue in Langland. Has he got another one in Gower?
I said before the game we were playing the wrong team especially against Stoke. They murdered us at the start because we were playing suicide football again. When will the gaffer learn and adapt. I can see what he wants to do but we have no where near the quality to perform those intricacies.
Worse we have thrown an inexperienced keeper in at the deepest end which is unacceptable when we have an excellent shot stopper being sent out to help another club.
Back to our style. We don't have the quality and this is exacerbated by the lack of leadership on the pitch. Grimes can play but he is not a leader. I can't really see any leaders in the line up. Maybe Downes but we have to stop this suicide ball and change it to give our players a chance of not getting sent off because of stupid balls because of the suicide game. |
I could havewritten that.
Im having to hold back from stating exactly how I feel so a not to offend too many.
Martin has had 2 windows now.
The last one saw us bring in a skinny foreign lad from a big club recovering from an injury being thrust right into a full game then another. A player so similiar to Pato. Yet the left sided player doesnt make the bench. The skinny CH kid also doesnt make the field of play a Martin prefer to play midfielders at CH anyway.
We bring in a keeper for good money who is no better than Hamer or Benda who was binned.
We are the easiest team in the league to play as we do the same thing and make the same mistakes.
And people are not sickened by this...
We are told to give Martin time;for what exactly. There is no plan,no building ,no ambitious just floating around at the bottom of the pond hoping 3 other teams are worse. | |
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