| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup 11:30 - Jan 12 with 4356 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
Following the 'Big Steal' on November 3rd (US Presidential election) thousands of Americans came forward and signed sworn affidavits, providing witness statements of the corruption they had seen.
The results we were asked to believe bore no relation to patterns at any other previous US election.
(for example; ​2 neighbouring counties in different states...1 state Republican controlled, 1 state Democrat controlled...who had both voted Trump in 2016, similar breakdown of population, similar economies...saw the county in the Republican state return even better results in 2020 and the county in the Democrat controlled state see a massive drop in the vote for Trump - this is highly suspicious and runs counter to what happened in every state that wasn't a swing state which the Democrats controlled)
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On January the 6th 2016 , at the joint session of congress where states where the states declare their electoral votes and the electoral votes are counted , Democrat senators stood up and challenged the results, declaring that Trump had stolen the election from Hilary Clinton with the help of Russia (Yet, you'll note, these people and Americans who believed them were not treated like insurrectionists and othered during the Trump presidency...in fact the media continued to repeat these lies every single day, commanding you all to hate for the next 4 years...they are still at it).
The Democrats could not get a single senator to oppose the certification of the result however.
On January 6th 2021 however over 100 congressmen and several senators were prepared to oppose certification. Including Senator Ted Cruz.
Cruz and the other Republican senators were prepared to argue that the nation pause, take stock, run audits, and address the public's concerns, before certifying.
This has been characterized by the Left as "attempting to overturn an election - a coup", but the Senator's who were due to speak that day did not have the power to reject the fraudulent electoral votes. Only Mike Pence did.
The strategy on January the 6th was to keep Senators and Congressman talking, demanding audits, whilst the protest occurred peacefully outside, to put public pressure on Mike Pence to do the right thing...to send the electoral votes back to six contested states, where Republican-led legislatures could conduct audits before certifying the election results.
Now, if you have organised a stolen election of course, and you are aware that you have crossed the Rubicon, committed treason and know how that story ends the idea of audits brings you out in a cold, cold, sweat.
The Democrats, and America's elites (truth be told) NEEDED to cover up the stolen election and could not risk Pence bowing to the public pressure.
So what did they do?
1) they had prepared for the possibility of the public not accepting the subversion of democracy and coming to Washington for a reckoning. The FBI had done a dummy run for January the 6th in Michigan.
If you don't know what happened in Michigan in the "plot" to kidnap Gov. Whitmer I suggest you look it up. Two thirds of the alleged plotters were in fact FBI agents.
The leader of this operation was put in charge of FBI operations in Washington.
Coincidence? Don't be so naive!
2) They embedded FBI agents into the crowd that day, FBI agents whose mission it was to turn the crowd who had assembled to protest, violent. Whose mission it was to incite citizens to go into the Capitol building in order that proceedings could be stopped and Pence...under immense pressure from the Democrats and the media...could be forced to certify the election results in the hours that followed.
Don't believe me, watch this video, explain who Ray Epps is and explain why Cruz can't get a straight answer to a straight question.
https://rumble.com/vsdqkm-ted-cruz-grills-fbi-and-doj-on-ray-epps-and-fed-involv [Post edited 12 Jan 2022 11:32]
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| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 04:24 - Oct 18 with 807 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 00:52 - Oct 18 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
There’s literally no point charging him. The one person in the world who can exonerate him completely with the stroke of a pen without any trial or evidence happens to be his degenerate child sniffing father who supports him unconditionally. |
Agreed, all a bit of a farce really.
Let’s say “laptop from hell” is absolutely a fair term considering what is reported to be on there. Yet people still pretending it’s not real in order to pledge allegiance to a political side that is becoming like a cult.
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| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 23:33 - Oct 18 with 704 views | DJack |
| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 04:22 - Oct 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
But your position was that it was Russian disinformation and a hoax, right?
No need to frame anything, I’m literally asking you what you said regarding it being a hoax. If we are talking conspiracy theories being peddled then it’s probably best we start there and work our way forward.
You seem reluctant to confirm.
After that we can move on to “Donald Trump had burner phones and arranged Jan 6th and coordinated it live”.  [Post edited 18 Oct 2022 4:37]
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Your position was that he is a paedophile and there was evidence of paedophilia...My position was that no way would Guiliani hold onto that "fact" for a whole year unless it was not legitimate and was an information campaign to discredit.
We could move on to the fact that the claim by Trump that the investigations into "alleged Russian interference" was a conspiracy against him...that Trump claim died today.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63305382
Edit to correct formatting [Post edited 18 Oct 2022 23:35]
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| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 23:42 - Oct 18 with 698 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 23:33 - Oct 18 by DJack |
Your position was that he is a paedophile and there was evidence of paedophilia...My position was that no way would Guiliani hold onto that "fact" for a whole year unless it was not legitimate and was an information campaign to discredit.
We could move on to the fact that the claim by Trump that the investigations into "alleged Russian interference" was a conspiracy against him...that Trump claim died today.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63305382
Edit to correct formatting [Post edited 18 Oct 2022 23:35]
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No, my position that it was his laptop and there is evidence of pedophilia on it. You took the position that he’s probably innocent and that it was probably Russian disinformation hoax.
But again you seem reluctant to confirm you did indeed peddle that.
Wonder why. | |
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| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 00:33 - Oct 19 with 679 views | DJack |
| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 23:42 - Oct 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
No, my position that it was his laptop and there is evidence of pedophilia on it. You took the position that he’s probably innocent and that it was probably Russian disinformation hoax.
But again you seem reluctant to confirm you did indeed peddle that.
Wonder why. |
If my memory serves me my actual position when it came out was conservative propaganda/disinformation due to how this was alleged to have unfolded...you then stated that i claimed it to be a hoax and things moved on in that line with me answereing your hoax line of questioning.
But you've gone back to this to mask/detract how I've showed the OP's cringeworthy claims to be such. You've taken the opportunity to seize on something draw attention away from the facts I've related to - I assisted by answering the false assertion by (MAGA) Tummerthat the FBI pressurised Zuckerberg . If you really wanted to carry on the laptop thing you could have resurrected the "Preidential Deabate" thread where all that we debated was there. | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 00:50 - Oct 19 with 673 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 00:33 - Oct 19 by DJack |
If my memory serves me my actual position when it came out was conservative propaganda/disinformation due to how this was alleged to have unfolded...you then stated that i claimed it to be a hoax and things moved on in that line with me answereing your hoax line of questioning.
But you've gone back to this to mask/detract how I've showed the OP's cringeworthy claims to be such. You've taken the opportunity to seize on something draw attention away from the facts I've related to - I assisted by answering the false assertion by (MAGA) Tummerthat the FBI pressurised Zuckerberg . If you really wanted to carry on the laptop thing you could have resurrected the "Preidential Deabate" thread where all that we debated was there. |
No you definitely said it was the Russians.
I am just pointing out your hypocrisy regarding claiming others are spreading false information when you have done so yourself regularly.
As for this exact thread, I have not read the OP and don’t read links.
Tell me in your own words and I’ll have a read, you know my stance on posting link dumps. It doesn’t interest me. | |
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| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 00:53 - Oct 19 with 672 views | DJack |
| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 00:50 - Oct 19 by Dr_Parnassus |
No you definitely said it was the Russians.
I am just pointing out your hypocrisy regarding claiming others are spreading false information when you have done so yourself regularly.
As for this exact thread, I have not read the OP and don’t read links.
Tell me in your own words and I’ll have a read, you know my stance on posting link dumps. It doesn’t interest me. |
You dont have to read links, look at the Presidential Debate thread and read it all there. Nothing has changed it is still there in black and white. | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 00:55 - Oct 19 with 671 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| January 6th - Corrupt FBI - The real coup on 00:53 - Oct 19 by DJack |
You dont have to read links, look at the Presidential Debate thread and read it all there. Nothing has changed it is still there in black and white. |
What is?
You keep telling me to read things. Tell me in your words and I’ll read them. If I require further evidence I’ll ask you to provide it. | |
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