| Fact of the day - Unemployment 08:19 - Jan 12 with 5926 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
UK Unemployment - 4.2%
EU Unemployment - 7.2%
Remember that anyone who voted Brexit was labelled an idiot and 'Remainers' lined up to tell us that voting for Brexit would result in massive unemployment.
Stop taking seriously the people who are being proved wrong, consistently. |  |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 08:46 - Jan 12 with 3102 views | Whiterockin |
Covid has had a massive impact since we left the EU. Just take tourism as one example, how many in the EU have lost their job due to people not going on holiday. Just one small example and there are many, we need to wait a while to see the true impact, several years. Its not the time to try and score points but the time to work together and try to make it work.
Incidentally I voted leave. |  | | |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 08:55 - Jan 12 with 3091 views | jack_lord |
I suppose that statistic would have more context if it compared now to 2, 5 and 10 years ago. I would like to see the how both entities have changed in the Covid years. |  |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 08:59 - Jan 12 with 3083 views | ItchySphincter |
Food banks. |  |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:10 - Jan 12 with 3067 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 08:59 - Jan 12 by ItchySphincter |
Food banks. |
What do food banks have to do with the claim that leaving the EU would cause unemployment (I believe it was claimed that this would happen quickly) not coming to fruition, in fact unemployment is rising quicker in the EU?
That was the topic. So why do you think that unemployment is higher in the EU despite every country in Europe (including the UK) suffering the effects of Covid lockdowns and despite us leaving the EU?
How do you explain that one away to yourself?
This is the point where you need to make a coherent, rational, argument. [Post edited 12 Jan 2022 9:10]
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:20 - Jan 12 with 3061 views | jack_lord |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:10 - Jan 12 by Ajack_Kerouac |
What do food banks have to do with the claim that leaving the EU would cause unemployment (I believe it was claimed that this would happen quickly) not coming to fruition, in fact unemployment is rising quicker in the EU?
That was the topic. So why do you think that unemployment is higher in the EU despite every country in Europe (including the UK) suffering the effects of Covid lockdowns and despite us leaving the EU?
How do you explain that one away to yourself?
This is the point where you need to make a coherent, rational, argument. [Post edited 12 Jan 2022 9:10]
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I did a quick check.
The EU data shows that unemployment is at an almost identical rate a6 6.5% to two years ago whereas UK has shown a rise from 3.8 to 4.2%. The EA (the Euro area which the UK was never part of) is 7.2% | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:30 - Jan 12 with 3054 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:20 - Jan 12 by jack_lord |
I did a quick check.
The EU data shows that unemployment is at an almost identical rate a6 6.5% to two years ago whereas UK has shown a rise from 3.8 to 4.2%. The EA (the Euro area which the UK was never part of) is 7.2% |
So the core of Europe, the Euro area, which so many remainers had argued that we needed to be a part of...Tony Blair, the great centrist  , still argues that the Euro was our destiny...has unemployment growing at a faster rate than Brexit Britain.
Strange that, as we were told that they had so many advantages and that Brexit was a suicidal move that would create unemployment...over and over again, for years.
Very strange. | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:37 - Jan 12 with 3050 views | jack_lord |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:30 - Jan 12 by Ajack_Kerouac |
So the core of Europe, the Euro area, which so many remainers had argued that we needed to be a part of...Tony Blair, the great centrist , still argues that the Euro was our destiny...has unemployment growing at a faster rate than Brexit Britain.
Strange that, as we were told that they had so many advantages and that Brexit was a suicidal move that would create unemployment...over and over again, for years.
Very strange. |
Incidentally, the 7.2% figure is also almost identical to two years ago so it can be argued that that area has done better than the UK.
I'm not and never have been a big supporter of the Euro though I understand why they think it is necessary. | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:40 - Jan 12 with 3048 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:20 - Jan 12 by jack_lord |
I did a quick check.
The EU data shows that unemployment is at an almost identical rate a6 6.5% to two years ago whereas UK has shown a rise from 3.8 to 4.2%. The EA (the Euro area which the UK was never part of) is 7.2% |
Could that point to the fact that countries in the EU that kept their own currency had a more flexible economy and were able to keep more people in work. While the countries that use an over valued Euro like Italy Greece Spain had higher unemployment. 9%, 13,% 14% respectively. |  |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:42 - Jan 12 with 3041 views | Whiterockin |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:40 - Jan 12 by felixstowe_jack |
Could that point to the fact that countries in the EU that kept their own currency had a more flexible economy and were able to keep more people in work. While the countries that use an over valued Euro like Italy Greece Spain had higher unemployment. 9%, 13,% 14% respectively. |
Again I would say Italy Greece Spain was impacted by tourism. | | | |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:05 - Jan 12 with 3003 views | CountyJim |
It's a load of bollix my daughter has been advised to go on pip rather than claiming unemployment there's hundreds of thousands like that remember the miners doctors told to stick them on sick rather than the dole to mask figures.
Still going on under this tory government |  | | |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:12 - Jan 12 with 2995 views | Boundy |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 08:59 - Jan 12 by ItchySphincter |
Food banks. |
For a sense of balance ,and no one can claim moral superiority , food bans actually started during Labours tenure .Britain’s biggest foodbank network had 57 outlets open in the final year of the Labour government in 2009/10. Either way a national disgrace | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:13 - Jan 12 with 2995 views | Catullus |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:42 - Jan 12 by Whiterockin |
Again I would say Italy Greece Spain was impacted by tourism. |
That seems a reasonable conclusion but other countries are impacted too, any skiing resort, the South of France, anywhere that benefits massively from tourism will have suffered but I don't know the figures for a proper comparison.
People still try to put any bad stuff down to brexit but until we are through the pandemic it's practically impossible to be sure. Even imports and exports are affected by covid rules.
UK unemployment should drop, there are plenty of jobs around. I'm getting an email every day telling me of new jobs available and half of them seem like decent jobs to. A lot in driving and the care sector. | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:19 - Jan 12 with 2988 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:42 - Jan 12 by Whiterockin |
Again I would say Italy Greece Spain was impacted by tourism. |
You can't just blame lack of tourists for high unemployment rates. Malta and Cyprus are both well below EU average. The UK also relies on tourists from overseas particularly London and Scotland.
Unemployment in Euro area 7.6%
Unemployment in 27 EU countries 6.9%
Uk Unemployment 4.2%
20 countries in the EU have higher unemployment than the UK. | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:25 - Jan 12 with 2980 views | Whiterockin |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:19 - Jan 12 by felixstowe_jack |
You can't just blame lack of tourists for high unemployment rates. Malta and Cyprus are both well below EU average. The UK also relies on tourists from overseas particularly London and Scotland.
Unemployment in Euro area 7.6%
Unemployment in 27 EU countries 6.9%
Uk Unemployment 4.2%
20 countries in the EU have higher unemployment than the UK. |
I'm not just blaming tourism, but the three countries you named normally have high tourism employment. The rates in this sector have improved in the last 6 months after going through the floor. | | | |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:30 - Jan 12 with 2970 views | jack_lord |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:19 - Jan 12 by felixstowe_jack |
You can't just blame lack of tourists for high unemployment rates. Malta and Cyprus are both well below EU average. The UK also relies on tourists from overseas particularly London and Scotland.
Unemployment in Euro area 7.6%
Unemployment in 27 EU countries 6.9%
Uk Unemployment 4.2%
20 countries in the EU have higher unemployment than the UK. |
The latest figures I saw were EA 6.5% and Euro 7.2%.
Yes UK has a better unemployment rate than many of the EU countries. Did it gain as an EU member? Did it initially gain but that deteriorate over time? It is a big economy. There have been huge political changes since UK went in to the EEC back in 73 so who knows what is actually right.
As long as Nationalism doesn't confuse the decision makers. | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:37 - Jan 12 with 2962 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:30 - Jan 12 by jack_lord |
The latest figures I saw were EA 6.5% and Euro 7.2%.
Yes UK has a better unemployment rate than many of the EU countries. Did it gain as an EU member? Did it initially gain but that deteriorate over time? It is a big economy. There have been huge political changes since UK went in to the EEC back in 73 so who knows what is actually right.
As long as Nationalism doesn't confuse the decision makers. |
Who knows but it certainly benefited from having it's own currency allowing the UK to set it's own monetary policy with a flexibility to make it's own decisions rather than being tied to the euro. | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:53 - Jan 12 with 2952 views | ItchySphincter |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 09:10 - Jan 12 by Ajack_Kerouac |
What do food banks have to do with the claim that leaving the EU would cause unemployment (I believe it was claimed that this would happen quickly) not coming to fruition, in fact unemployment is rising quicker in the EU?
That was the topic. So why do you think that unemployment is higher in the EU despite every country in Europe (including the UK) suffering the effects of Covid lockdowns and despite us leaving the EU?
How do you explain that one away to yourself?
This is the point where you need to make a coherent, rational, argument. [Post edited 12 Jan 2022 9:10]
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Well no. My point was made.
Cheerlead for this shower all you like, meanwhile…… food banks. | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 12:29 - Jan 12 with 2903 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 10:53 - Jan 12 by ItchySphincter |
Well no. My point was made.
Cheerlead for this shower all you like, meanwhile…… food banks. |
It not as if the EU does not have food banks.
Germany has 2000 food banks and 3,500,000 people depend on food banks in France. The two richest countries in the EU have food banks. | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 12:37 - Jan 12 with 2891 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 12:29 - Jan 12 by felixstowe_jack |
It not as if the EU does not have food banks.
Germany has 2000 food banks and 3,500,000 people depend on food banks in France. The two richest countries in the EU have food banks. |
In Germany I understand that you need to show your social security number to use a food bank. They have a similar use of food banks to the UK.
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 12:40 - Jan 12 with 2888 views | ItchySphincter |
Ahhh, so I’m detecting from the ‘whataboutery’ of the last few posts that necessity for foodbanks is completely acceptable in a developed society which appears to be congratulating itself on a job well done in comparison to other countries.
Rightio, as you were. | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 12:41 - Jan 12 with 2887 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
It is an absolute disgrace that in 2022 people in the wealthiest countries in the world can’t afford food or heating. | | | |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 12:47 - Jan 12 with 2886 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 12:41 - Jan 12 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
It is an absolute disgrace that in 2022 people in the wealthiest countries in the world can’t afford food or heating. |
Systemic failure. | |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 12:50 - Jan 12 with 2883 views | Ebo |
f uck the UK and f uck the pound |  |
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| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 13:03 - Jan 12 with 2861 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Fact of the day - Unemployment on 12:40 - Jan 12 by ItchySphincter |
Ahhh, so I’m detecting from the ‘whataboutery’ of the last few posts that necessity for foodbanks is completely acceptable in a developed society which appears to be congratulating itself on a job well done in comparison to other countries.
Rightio, as you were. |
Well I did say it’s an absolute disgrace but it’s not as you are suggesting an issue around brexit. | | | |
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