| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 AFTERMATH 08:58 - Sep 30 with 20825 views | NotLoyal |
DERBY COUNTY V SWANSEA CITY MATCHDAY THREAD
Prutton’s pear shaped predictions
Derby are back into plus points! It is such a credit to Wayne Rooney and his players that they are remaining positive and still picking up results. Swansea were well beaten by Fulham in midweek. They remain a little bit inconsistent in the early stages of Russell Martin’s tenure as he tries to rebuild the side, and I think they could come unstuck again here.
Derby County Championship form:
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Swansea City Championship form:
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Prutton predicts: 1-0
Derby County: Ryan Allsop, Nathan Byrne, Craig Forsyth, Graeme Shinnie, Max Bird, Tom Lawrence (captain), Ravel Morrison, Richard Stearman, Curtis Davies, Jack Stratton, Jason Knight.
Substitutes: Kelle Roos, Kamil Jozwiak, Louie Sibley, Lee Buchanan, Louie Watson, Dylan Williams, Festy Ebosele.
Swansea City: Ben Hamer; Ben Cabango, Kyle Naughton, Ryan Manning; Joel Latibeaudiere, Flynn Downes, Matt Grimes (captain), Jake Bidwell; Korey Smith, Jamie Paterson; Joel Piroe.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Jay Fulton, Morgan Whittaker, Liam Cullen, Ethan Laird, Liam Walsh, Rhys Williams.
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/55937/russell-martin-emp
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 18:59 - Oct 2 with 1136 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 18:51 - Oct 2 by max936 |
Shut up you self righteous boring t..t. You’re on here virtually every hour of the day spouting your pointless drivel, go and bore another clubs forum, you obviously don’t work or sleep, your a sad individual sitting in his bedsit Googling pointless stats, help is on its way, just reach out [Post edited 2 Oct 2021 19:04]
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Are you ok? You sound a little emotional.
No amount of abuse will stop me giving my view though unfortunately. But I certainly appreciate the effort you went to. |  |
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 18:59 - Oct 2 with 1140 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 18:48 - Oct 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
We were 2nd when we signed Gylfi on loan in January.
He improved us but not sure I would say we “needed” him as such. Dobbie was providing the link between midfield and attack, as was Pratley to be fair. Both extremely successfully.
But this team doesn’t have that person, I agree. |
We were in the premier league when we signed him.
You’re thinking of Borini. |  | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:00 - Oct 2 with 1130 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 18:28 - Oct 2 by AndyCole |
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And bang on cue, the bully boy(s) are back out, freshly buoyed from their vacations.
Will be interesting to see how this evening pans out, with no-shows no doubt from the usual clapping trolls........those that always accuse others, and get the clapper to clap, incoherently......intoxed(ly)......
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The only one on vacation was you after we beat Huddersfield. You've been asked a few questions you're ignoring , who did you play for, what was your former username on here if you had one, why didn't you post after the Huddersfield game. |  | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:00 - Oct 2 with 1116 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 18:59 - Oct 2 by londonlisa2001 |
We were in the premier league when we signed him.
You’re thinking of Borini. |
Very true. The years are playing tricks. | |
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:02 - Oct 2 with 1103 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 18:48 - Oct 2 by 34dfgdf54 |
And had Ayew who was on the books to replace them.
We haven’t got that. |
We have Piroe.
Who scored more at this point of the season than Ayew did in that one. | |
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:04 - Oct 2 with 1101 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:02 - Oct 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
We have Piroe.
Who scored more at this point of the season than Ayew did in that one. |
Nowhere near the same level as Ayew, nor should we expect him to be yet. |  | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:05 - Oct 2 with 1094 views | jasper_T |
"I thought Korey Smith done great today"
Baffling. | | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:08 - Oct 2 with 1081 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:04 - Oct 2 by 34dfgdf54 |
Nowhere near the same level as Ayew, nor should we expect him to be yet. |
We are talking about losing goals, he didn’t say anything about his opinion on players being better. If that’s the case the Cooper can make that same case about McBurnie and Dan James.
So the effect discussed will become apparent by their direct goal contributions I guess.
Piroe scored 5 in our first 11 games, Ayew scored 2.
I’ll have to look for assists and add total goal contributions, but still think Piroe is ahead. | |
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:08 - Oct 2 with 1082 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:05 - Oct 2 by jasper_T |
"I thought Korey Smith done great today"
Baffling. |
He's useful to throw on when protecting a lead, but in a forward role, I'm genuinely baffled tbf. | | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:11 - Oct 2 with 1066 views | AndyCole |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 18:55 - Oct 2 by KeithHaynes |
Flair players are hard to find, we have two in Downes and Ntcham, but they need more direction, especially Downes. |
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Downes ain't no flair player, where we need flair players.
He's a deep sitting DCM with a deft touch (and does, now, look class fair play).
They all need direction. Martin is clearly lacking in that space. Maybe LT10 can advise (though I now see him too distancing himself from brand Martin).
Paterson is our only breath of fresh air right now. He ain't flair either, a Bergkamp B-, which in itself is a massive bonus on what we had last year in that space (aside from MGW).
We need a canny blend of pragmatic flair. As we have before.
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:23 - Oct 2 with 1014 views | JackDragon |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 18:53 - Oct 2 by AndyCole |
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After all the unprecedented levels (at this level) invested so far on Brand Martin ? Under the stewardship of the Jenkinistas ?
You expect us to spend even more, NOW on Brand Martin (The Jenkinstsas are already out on a limb) on a Gylfi ? At what price? Bonkers, entitled, delusional.
Or just another hapless happy clapper....
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Not a "hapless happy clapper" Mr Cole. Just offering my opinion on the type of player I think would give us that extra impetus in the final third to turn todays point (against a team who would be just outside the playoff positions but for points deductions) into 3. I also don't expect us to throw untold money at it. STID | | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:26 - Oct 2 with 1005 views | A_Fans_Dad |
It is interesting, I just watched the Premier version of this game.
Brighton dominated Arsenal
58% possession
21 Shots to Arsenal's 8.
2 on Target.
0:0 draw.
Mr Potter has the same result. | | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:27 - Oct 2 with 1005 views | jackrabbit |
Just watched Brighton 0 Arsenal 0
That’s 3 hours of football without espying a single goal.
Sometimes football can be a bit of a dirge  |  | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:32 - Oct 2 with 990 views | max936 |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 18:59 - Oct 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
Are you ok? You sound a little emotional.
No amount of abuse will stop me giving my view though unfortunately. But I certainly appreciate the effort you went to. |
It’s not your opinion it’s your insistence that it’s facts, it’s only facts in your own deluded mind, you crack on Butty, |  |
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:33 - Oct 2 with 984 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:32 - Oct 2 by max936 |
It’s not your opinion it’s your insistence that it’s facts, it’s only facts in your own deluded mind, you crack on Butty, |
Which part of my view do you not feel is a fact Maxwell?
The only parts I claim are facts, are the facts. | |
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:36 - Oct 2 with 980 views | AndyCole |
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Precisely how much more do some folk want to see us spend ?!
Unprecedented levels already. And we're still languishing in the bottom tranche, and getting ever more bottomer. Whilst at the same time Cooper leapfrogs us and pushes us further bottomer. Couldn't make it up.
And yet our proven, successful ex-manager had to make to do with B-grade from MLS. Bonkers. When, without a shadow of doubt we coulda, woulda, shoulda got promoted, with a Piroe, (who was always on Cooper's radar) yet denied by Hapless Winter.
In Winter, we cannot possibly Trust. Fraud of a CEO. Watch this space, seriously..............
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:49 - Oct 2 with 957 views | max936 |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:36 - Oct 2 by AndyCole |
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Precisely how much more do some folk want to see us spend ?!
Unprecedented levels already. And we're still languishing in the bottom tranche, and getting ever more bottomer. Whilst at the same time Cooper leapfrogs us and pushes us further bottomer. Couldn't make it up.
And yet our proven, successful ex-manager had to make to do with B-grade from MLS. Bonkers. When, without a shadow of doubt we coulda, woulda, shoulda got promoted, with a Piroe, (who was always on Cooper's radar) yet denied by Hapless Winter.
In Winter, we cannot possibly Trust. Fraud of a CEO. Watch this space, seriously..............
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Here’s another bellend, some have the gonads to save us from this Cooper drivel, please. | |
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:54 - Oct 2 with 945 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Didn’t think I’d get an answer. | |
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 20:03 - Oct 2 with 928 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:54 - Oct 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
Didn’t think I’d get an answer. |
Didn't think I'd get one either. | | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 20:05 - Oct 2 with 926 views | Chief |
I am worried about our lack of goals.
Even with Paterson having a fantastic performance today we still couldn't give our striker a single chance. And same with Laird in previous weeks. Looks superb but it isn't converted into goals.
Martin isn't known in my eyes as an attacking coach, but as a possession coach. Well he's already achieved that with, we dominate possession every week even against the top teams, and the players generally look comfortable with it it now - the defensive gifts are less already.
So how does it change to get us more goals? Personnel? Well realistically there's only Whittaker who could play more.
Change the system? But we've got rid of all the wingers. Play an extra attacking midfielder? But we don't have any. Could we sign one in January? Who's place in the team does he take?
Difficult to see at the moment how this changes to me. |  |
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 20:22 - Oct 2 with 894 views | majorraglan |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 20:05 - Oct 2 by Chief |
I am worried about our lack of goals.
Even with Paterson having a fantastic performance today we still couldn't give our striker a single chance. And same with Laird in previous weeks. Looks superb but it isn't converted into goals.
Martin isn't known in my eyes as an attacking coach, but as a possession coach. Well he's already achieved that with, we dominate possession every week even against the top teams, and the players generally look comfortable with it it now - the defensive gifts are less already.
So how does it change to get us more goals? Personnel? Well realistically there's only Whittaker who could play more.
Change the system? But we've got rid of all the wingers. Play an extra attacking midfielder? But we don't have any. Could we sign one in January? Who's place in the team does he take?
Difficult to see at the moment how this changes to me. |
You have to hope there’s someone at the club (someone like Mark Allen) who can see the problem and that there are regular discussions and reviews in relation to team performances etc and a pathway forward.
It’s early days and I’d rather be in the Swans position than Cardiff’s who are seemingly in free fall. | | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 20:32 - Oct 2 with 867 views | AndyCole |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:00 - Oct 2 by Treforys_Jack |
The only one on vacation was you after we beat Huddersfield. You've been asked a few questions you're ignoring , who did you play for, what was your former username on here if you had one, why didn't you post after the Huddersfield game. |
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I normally can't be arsed with replying to the incessant trolling on here, however in your case I will make an exception, as you don't seem to resort to the usual vile bullying tactics of the herd.
If you think posters like me, with an alternative view to the masses, feels entitled to reply in kind to people like you, you are truly delusional. Always.
The good Dr.P is remarkably polite, patient and understanding with folk like you, who are simply unable to get it. And hats off to him as The Best Poster on these here forums.
For me, I neither have the time nor inclination to be as polite as the good Dr.P. So, take this as a polite response to the fact you actually expect a response to your ongoing, bullying type questioning.
Get over yourself, in downtown salubrious Morristown.
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 20:33 - Oct 2 with 863 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 20:05 - Oct 2 by Chief |
I am worried about our lack of goals.
Even with Paterson having a fantastic performance today we still couldn't give our striker a single chance. And same with Laird in previous weeks. Looks superb but it isn't converted into goals.
Martin isn't known in my eyes as an attacking coach, but as a possession coach. Well he's already achieved that with, we dominate possession every week even against the top teams, and the players generally look comfortable with it it now - the defensive gifts are less already.
So how does it change to get us more goals? Personnel? Well realistically there's only Whittaker who could play more.
Change the system? But we've got rid of all the wingers. Play an extra attacking midfielder? But we don't have any. Could we sign one in January? Who's place in the team does he take?
Difficult to see at the moment how this changes to me. |
Get there quicker so that the opposition haven't got 10 men in the penalty area.
Get the players around the penalty to shoot at the goal. | | | |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 20:34 - Oct 2 with 858 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 20:32 - Oct 2 by AndyCole |
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I normally can't be arsed with replying to the incessant trolling on here, however in your case I will make an exception, as you don't seem to resort to the usual vile bullying tactics of the herd.
If you think posters like me, with an alternative view to the masses, feels entitled to reply in kind to people like you, you are truly delusional. Always.
The good Dr.P is remarkably polite, patient and understanding with folk like you, who are simply unable to get it. And hats off to him as The Best Poster on these here forums.
For me, I neither have the time nor inclination to be as polite as the good Dr.P. So, take this as a polite response to the fact you actually expect a response to your ongoing, bullying type questioning.
Get over yourself, in downtown salubrious Morristown.
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So no answer to why you didn't post after we won, yet when we lose, you're all over it. I'll tell you something , your manner wouldn't cut it in the real world, thank god for the Internet eh !! [Post edited 2 Oct 2021 20:41]
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| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 20:38 - Oct 2 with 847 views | Bobblehat |
| Derby County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 TEAMS on 19:33 - Oct 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
Which part of my view do you not feel is a fact Maxwell?
The only parts I claim are facts, are the facts. |
Here’s a fact for you, we’re only 2 wins off 7th place🤨 the thing is you’re to negative to even think of that. | | | |
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