| Galloway anti-Semitic on 13:04 - Jun 12 with 1048 views | ladyjack |
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 13:17 - Jun 12 with 1041 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 13:04 - Jun 12 by ladyjack |
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Trampie, Trampie, Trampie.
Yet again post ill-educated tweets with zero knowledge whatsoever. With that in mind, keep reading. You'll learn something.
The image you post of a wonderful group called Neturei Karta ( "Guardians of the CIty" ). What does that matter? They are Jews! Well, they are as representative of Jews as Westboro Baptists are of Christians.
Neturei Karta want the state of Israel destroyed. Not for any noble reason you'd want ascribed but because in their batsh1t crazy way, they believe no Jew should step foot in Israel until the Messiah returns. We're talking about a group so fvcked up, they claim Zionists collaborated with the Nazis to kill Jews. One served in Arafat's cabinet as "Minister for Jewish Affairs".
What's their size? Outside Israel, NK attendance at protests is at most a dozen. Inside Israel, a couple of hundred tops. Other anti-Zionist Jewish groups distance themselves from NK.
So, yeah, people can tweet their nice pictures of NK but generalising them as representative of Jews? Eh..... [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 13:19]
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:06 - Jun 12 with 1009 views | Glyn1 |
Suddenly I'm in this weird place where I'm agree 100% with Bluey on everything. Making a quick exit... |  |
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:23 - Jun 12 with 989 views | jackrmee |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 13:17 - Jun 12 by bluey_the_blue |
Trampie, Trampie, Trampie.
Yet again post ill-educated tweets with zero knowledge whatsoever. With that in mind, keep reading. You'll learn something.
The image you post of a wonderful group called Neturei Karta ( "Guardians of the CIty" ). What does that matter? They are Jews! Well, they are as representative of Jews as Westboro Baptists are of Christians.
Neturei Karta want the state of Israel destroyed. Not for any noble reason you'd want ascribed but because in their batsh1t crazy way, they believe no Jew should step foot in Israel until the Messiah returns. We're talking about a group so fvcked up, they claim Zionists collaborated with the Nazis to kill Jews. One served in Arafat's cabinet as "Minister for Jewish Affairs".
What's their size? Outside Israel, NK attendance at protests is at most a dozen. Inside Israel, a couple of hundred tops. Other anti-Zionist Jewish groups distance themselves from NK.
So, yeah, people can tweet their nice pictures of NK but generalising them as representative of Jews? Eh..... [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 13:19]
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I've never heard of NK, but what you say seems fair to me.
"Neturei Karta want the state of Israel destroyed."
Fair play to them.
"they believe no Jew should step foot in Israel until the Messiah returns."
Well, the ones that feel they should be in Israel, reckon it's because it says in the Bible that it's their land right? Well if that's the case, it seems only fair that maybe they should wait for Jesus to confirm this before taking it as fact.
I would say that the fact that people want to take away land from the natives because an invisible man in the sky says it's theirs is the "batsh1t crazy way" tbh. |  |
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:37 - Jun 12 with 984 views | ladyjack |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 13:17 - Jun 12 by bluey_the_blue |
Trampie, Trampie, Trampie.
Yet again post ill-educated tweets with zero knowledge whatsoever. With that in mind, keep reading. You'll learn something.
The image you post of a wonderful group called Neturei Karta ( "Guardians of the CIty" ). What does that matter? They are Jews! Well, they are as representative of Jews as Westboro Baptists are of Christians.
Neturei Karta want the state of Israel destroyed. Not for any noble reason you'd want ascribed but because in their batsh1t crazy way, they believe no Jew should step foot in Israel until the Messiah returns. We're talking about a group so fvcked up, they claim Zionists collaborated with the Nazis to kill Jews. One served in Arafat's cabinet as "Minister for Jewish Affairs".
What's their size? Outside Israel, NK attendance at protests is at most a dozen. Inside Israel, a couple of hundred tops. Other anti-Zionist Jewish groups distance themselves from NK.
So, yeah, people can tweet their nice pictures of NK but generalising them as representative of Jews? Eh..... [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 13:19]
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It does not matter if Jews are Orthodox or Reform there are groups of them that are anti Zionist, they do not seem themselves as right wing nationalists.
They are against the founding of any state based on religion or race, they think its against Jewish religious tradition with Zionists having no regard for the indigenous population where they were going to set up, they think of themselves as a religious community and not a nation and find it offensive that Zionists say that America, Britain etc etc is not their homeland and that they are living in exile. | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:39 - Jun 12 with 967 views | Glyn1 |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:23 - Jun 12 by jackrmee |
I've never heard of NK, but what you say seems fair to me.
"Neturei Karta want the state of Israel destroyed."
Fair play to them.
"they believe no Jew should step foot in Israel until the Messiah returns."
Well, the ones that feel they should be in Israel, reckon it's because it says in the Bible that it's their land right? Well if that's the case, it seems only fair that maybe they should wait for Jesus to confirm this before taking it as fact.
I would say that the fact that people want to take away land from the natives because an invisible man in the sky says it's theirs is the "batsh1t crazy way" tbh. |
You've no problem with the idea of a democratic nation being destroyed whereas the closing of a factory in Bridgend angers you? Truly? [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 14:42]
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:41 - Jun 12 with 961 views | jackrmee |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:39 - Jun 12 by Glyn1 |
You've no problem with the idea of a democratic nation being destroyed whereas the closing of a factory in Bridgend angers you? Truly? [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 14:42]
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A democratic nation hahahahahahaha | |
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:43 - Jun 12 with 952 views | Glyn1 |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:41 - Jun 12 by jackrmee |
A democratic nation hahahahahahaha |
Yes, a democratic nation. Unlike any other country in the Middle East. | |
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:45 - Jun 12 with 948 views | jackrmee |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:43 - Jun 12 by Glyn1 |
Yes, a democratic nation. Unlike any other country in the Middle East. |
The Palestinians think it's a democracy? | |
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:01 - Jun 12 with 935 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:45 - Jun 12 by jackrmee |
The Palestinians think it's a democracy? |
Israel has elections.
Remind us when Hamas last had an election? A decade ago. | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:03 - Jun 12 with 930 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:37 - Jun 12 by ladyjack |
It does not matter if Jews are Orthodox or Reform there are groups of them that are anti Zionist, they do not seem themselves as right wing nationalists.
They are against the founding of any state based on religion or race, they think its against Jewish religious tradition with Zionists having no regard for the indigenous population where they were going to set up, they think of themselves as a religious community and not a nation and find it offensive that Zionists say that America, Britain etc etc is not their homeland and that they are living in exile. |
Yes, yes, yes, Trampie but you're talking bollocks.
Neturei Karta are NOT against the founding of any state based upon religion or race. Try doing some research.
As for the rest, the demographics of Israel show numerous races and religions. Maybe you could try looking at the same for neighbouring states, hmm? | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:10 - Jun 12 with 921 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:23 - Jun 12 by jackrmee |
I've never heard of NK, but what you say seems fair to me.
"Neturei Karta want the state of Israel destroyed."
Fair play to them.
"they believe no Jew should step foot in Israel until the Messiah returns."
Well, the ones that feel they should be in Israel, reckon it's because it says in the Bible that it's their land right? Well if that's the case, it seems only fair that maybe they should wait for Jesus to confirm this before taking it as fact.
I would say that the fact that people want to take away land from the natives because an invisible man in the sky says it's theirs is the "batsh1t crazy way" tbh. |
Well, hate to break it to you, but the history, traditions and archeology that show it's historically Jewish land tend to trump "invisible man in the sky".
Galloway produced a "Gotcha!" moment, a programme for a football game featuring "Palestine" from the 20s I do believe. The slight problem for Galloway was it was a Tel Aviv team, packed full of Jews. Oh it was delightful the stick he took for that.
The land was named Judea. It became Palestina as Romans renamed it and expelled Jews from the land...
So yeah, Jews and Arabs alike lived on the land. Jews were expelled from Arab lands, assets seized - which people conveniently don't want to talk about because it's only Jews, right? Israel today is a melting pot. That's why when Hamas were using suicide bombers, targets were hospitals and universities - areas of integration.
I disagree with the settlements. The whole "never Jewish land" is utter anti-semitic bo11ocks. | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:11 - Jun 12 with 919 views | ladyjack |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:03 - Jun 12 by bluey_the_blue |
Yes, yes, yes, Trampie but you're talking bollocks.
Neturei Karta are NOT against the founding of any state based upon religion or race. Try doing some research.
As for the rest, the demographics of Israel show numerous races and religions. Maybe you could try looking at the same for neighbouring states, hmm? |
Im not talking about only Neturei Karta, there are Jews from different sectors of the faith that are anti Zionist.
Do you deny that there are Jews from different sectors of the faith that are not Zionists ?
Is your wife and her family Zionists ?
Does your wife think she is living in exile ? and does she hope to return to the Jewish homeland in the Middle East one day ? | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:16 - Jun 12 with 910 views | Lord_Bony |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 14:23 - Jun 12 by jackrmee |
I've never heard of NK, but what you say seems fair to me.
"Neturei Karta want the state of Israel destroyed."
Fair play to them.
"they believe no Jew should step foot in Israel until the Messiah returns."
Well, the ones that feel they should be in Israel, reckon it's because it says in the Bible that it's their land right? Well if that's the case, it seems only fair that maybe they should wait for Jesus to confirm this before taking it as fact.
I would say that the fact that people want to take away land from the natives because an invisible man in the sky says it's theirs is the "batsh1t crazy way" tbh. |
We should be aware that the boundaries of modern day Israel are entirely fictitious.Nothing to do with the bible or the "Israelite" tribe.
They have been made up by the Zionists. |  |
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:16 - Jun 12 with 910 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:11 - Jun 12 by ladyjack |
Im not talking about only Neturei Karta, there are Jews from different sectors of the faith that are anti Zionist.
Do you deny that there are Jews from different sectors of the faith that are not Zionists ?
Is your wife and her family Zionists ?
Does your wife think she is living in exile ? and does she hope to return to the Jewish homeland in the Middle East one day ? |
There are, Trampie.
The protesters you identify are Neturei Karta, as stated. Whackjobs. Utter whackjoibs. a group ho cozy up to Iran, even attending a Holocaust conference featuring endless Holocaust denier speakers ffs!
Jews can be Zionist or not. Individual choice.
Yes, wife and family are Zionists.
No, she doesn't think she's "living in exile". Do you ask the same question of Muslims?
She's happy with life here, Trampie. Do you believe all British Jews should move to / want to move to Israel?
The fact you ignore is that a Jewish state doesn't equate to persecution of all others. If it did.. then it's simple enough to use the same logic against say Muslim states in the region given, like it or not, there are abuses against Christians and Jews. I've seen nothing you've ever posted to that degree, so I guess you don't really believe that. | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:24 - Jun 12 with 902 views | ladyjack |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:16 - Jun 12 by bluey_the_blue |
There are, Trampie.
The protesters you identify are Neturei Karta, as stated. Whackjobs. Utter whackjoibs. a group ho cozy up to Iran, even attending a Holocaust conference featuring endless Holocaust denier speakers ffs!
Jews can be Zionist or not. Individual choice.
Yes, wife and family are Zionists.
No, she doesn't think she's "living in exile". Do you ask the same question of Muslims?
She's happy with life here, Trampie. Do you believe all British Jews should move to / want to move to Israel?
The fact you ignore is that a Jewish state doesn't equate to persecution of all others. If it did.. then it's simple enough to use the same logic against say Muslim states in the region given, like it or not, there are abuses against Christians and Jews. I've seen nothing you've ever posted to that degree, so I guess you don't really believe that. |
Yes exactly there Jews from all aspects of Judaism that are anti Zionist, so are all anti Zionist Jews batsh1t crazy jobs ? [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 15:33]
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:29 - Jun 12 with 895 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:24 - Jun 12 by ladyjack |
Yes exactly there Jews from all aspects of Judaism that are anti Zionist, so are all anti Zionist Jews batsh1t crazy jobs ? [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 15:33]
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You're right.
They aren't jobs.
You're trying to identify incredibly small minorities as being the generalisation... I'm give you a clue though, you aren't going to get many frummers that are anti-Zionists... | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:34 - Jun 12 with 890 views | ladyjack |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:29 - Jun 12 by bluey_the_blue |
You're right.
They aren't jobs.
You're trying to identify incredibly small minorities as being the generalisation... I'm give you a clue though, you aren't going to get many frummers that are anti-Zionists... |
So you are saying that Jews that are anti Zionist are not batsh1t crazy ? | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:38 - Jun 12 with 876 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:34 - Jun 12 by ladyjack |
So you are saying that Jews that are anti Zionist are not batsh1t crazy ? |
I'm saying Neturei Karta are batsh1t crazy. I thought you'd have appreciation of that.
Other anti-Zionists, can't argue for or against.
Why you're focusing on a small minority I don't know. | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:44 - Jun 12 with 864 views | ladyjack |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:38 - Jun 12 by bluey_the_blue |
I'm saying Neturei Karta are batsh1t crazy. I thought you'd have appreciation of that.
Other anti-Zionists, can't argue for or against.
Why you're focusing on a small minority I don't know. |
Let me get this straight.
You are saying bluey the blue that Neturei Karta Jews are batsh1t crazy ?
And that non Neturei Karta Jews that are anti Zionists are not batsh1t crazy ? | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:54 - Jun 12 with 848 views | jackrmee |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:10 - Jun 12 by bluey_the_blue |
Well, hate to break it to you, but the history, traditions and archeology that show it's historically Jewish land tend to trump "invisible man in the sky".
Galloway produced a "Gotcha!" moment, a programme for a football game featuring "Palestine" from the 20s I do believe. The slight problem for Galloway was it was a Tel Aviv team, packed full of Jews. Oh it was delightful the stick he took for that.
The land was named Judea. It became Palestina as Romans renamed it and expelled Jews from the land...
So yeah, Jews and Arabs alike lived on the land. Jews were expelled from Arab lands, assets seized - which people conveniently don't want to talk about because it's only Jews, right? Israel today is a melting pot. That's why when Hamas were using suicide bombers, targets were hospitals and universities - areas of integration.
I disagree with the settlements. The whole "never Jewish land" is utter anti-semitic bo11ocks. |
And Israel use the might of their army and the 2nd most powerful airforce in the world! | |
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| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:59 - Jun 12 with 839 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:16 - Jun 12 by Lord_Bony |
We should be aware that the boundaries of modern day Israel are entirely fictitious.Nothing to do with the bible or the "Israelite" tribe.
They have been made up by the Zionists. |
All boundaries ebb and flow after wars. Look at the Balkans as another example.
If it were to do with the Old Testament, you're talking Greater Judea.
The original boundaries for Israel were ridiculously unworkable from a defence / security perspective. Some very large mountain ranges that could be used to attack Israel from. | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:59 - Jun 12 with 836 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:54 - Jun 12 by jackrmee |
And Israel use the might of their army and the 2nd most powerful airforce in the world! |
Israel has learnt to defend itself, no other fvcker will. | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 16:08 - Jun 12 with 824 views | ladyjack |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:59 - Jun 12 by bluey_the_blue |
Israel has learnt to defend itself, no other fvcker will. |
America...…...defends it, what about Britain, Germany, Canada, Australia ?, possibly struggling somewhat after that. | | | |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 16:08 - Jun 12 with 824 views | ladyjack |
| Galloway anti-Semitic on 15:44 - Jun 12 by ladyjack |
Let me get this straight.
You are saying bluey the blue that Neturei Karta Jews are batsh1t crazy ?
And that non Neturei Karta Jews that are anti Zionists are not batsh1t crazy ? |
So your wife's a Zionist but doesn't want to move to the Jewish homeland are those stances compatible with each other ? | | | |
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