| The Price Of Football (all read) on 12:12 - Feb 5 with 3859 views | Darran |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 12:26 - Feb 5 with 3782 views | longlostjack |
Interesting to note that there was a 54% increase in other costs from 2016 to 2017 too. |  |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 12:36 - Feb 5 with 3729 views | Muteswan |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 12:26 - Feb 5 by longlostjack |
Interesting to note that there was a 54% increase in other costs from 2016 to 2017 too. |
That last paragraph says a lot
“Good governance for any business requires transparency and honest communication and these both appear to be in short supply in SA1 at present.” |  | | |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 12:46 - Feb 5 with 3683 views | Banosswan |
So since Pearlman has come in, our commercial revenue hasn't really increased at all? [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 12:47]
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:14 - Feb 5 with 3602 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 12:46 - Feb 5 by Banosswan |
So since Pearlman has come in, our commercial revenue hasn't really increased at all? [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 12:47]
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You can hardly blame him for that. We've gone from being broadcast around the world each week to being on the red button on Sky Sports once a week in 480p. |  |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:22 - Feb 5 with 3555 views | STID2017 |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:14 - Feb 5 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
You can hardly blame him for that. We've gone from being broadcast around the world each week to being on the red button on Sky Sports once a week in 480p. |
Pearlman has been in the role for a little under 2 and a quarter years.
This means he's banked £1.25 million before deductions.
I doubt if he's brought in that much.
Plus, for most of that tenure we were in the Premier League |  |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:26 - Feb 5 with 3523 views | jack2jack |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:14 - Feb 5 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
You can hardly blame him for that. We've gone from being broadcast around the world each week to being on the red button on Sky Sports once a week in 480p. |
Yeah but the TV money was coming in long before he arrived,so take that out of the equation,what's he brought to the table, apart from opening a shop in town.
And earning a shed load of money. |  | | |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:36 - Feb 5 with 3465 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:26 - Feb 5 by jack2jack |
Yeah but the TV money was coming in long before he arrived,so take that out of the equation,what's he brought to the table, apart from opening a shop in town.
And earning a shed load of money. |
I'm not arguing that he's done a good job. I think he doesn't warrant his salary and doesn't seem to have brought much to the table at all.
My post questioned criticising him for our commercial revenue not increasing much from when he arrived until now. I think he's here simply as a man on the ground to report to the Americans. | |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:44 - Feb 5 with 3438 views | theloneranger |
Famous last words ...
"I'm pleased and excited to be given the opportunity to help grow the Swansea City brand on a global basis. The club has a rich history and a fantastic story to tell.
"It will be my job to help tap into that from a commercial perspective, including the utilisation of new revenue streams and markets.
I’m really looking forward to meeting everyone involved with Swansea City Football Club, from the staff to its passionate fans. Additionally, I recognise the important role the Supporters Trust has to play and I believe being here on a daily basis will allow for more frequent and improved communications with them."
CHRIS PEARLMAN, SWANSEA CITY CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER ... 27 October 2016 |  |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:46 - Feb 5 with 3428 views | jack2jack |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:36 - Feb 5 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I'm not arguing that he's done a good job. I think he doesn't warrant his salary and doesn't seem to have brought much to the table at all.
My post questioned criticising him for our commercial revenue not increasing much from when he arrived until now. I think he's here simply as a man on the ground to report to the Americans. |
Don't quite understand your reply seems contradictory.
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:52 - Feb 5 with 3407 views | builthjack |
He is costing the club money. Someone on a tenth of his money, with performance related bonuses, would do a far better job. |  |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:59 - Feb 5 with 3378 views | MoscowJack |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:52 - Feb 5 by builthjack |
He is costing the club money. Someone on a tenth of his money, with performance related bonuses, would do a far better job. |
Funnily enough, that's what I suggested about 8 years ago when Chris was demanding that Jenkins was fired (when we were still in the Championship).
I thought Jenkins should have had a good Commercial Director who'd be brought in on a decent wage but hugely incentivised by a profit share or strong bonus structure, based purely on the success of his/her department.
Paying someone a massive base salary usually takes away the hunger (or some of it, at least) to succeed. It makes me wonder how much of Pearlman's salary was to be the Yanks' puppet and to learn how to do Huw's job, especially as commercial income has hardly improved. |  |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 14:10 - Feb 5 with 3347 views | builthjack |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:59 - Feb 5 by MoscowJack |
Funnily enough, that's what I suggested about 8 years ago when Chris was demanding that Jenkins was fired (when we were still in the Championship).
I thought Jenkins should have had a good Commercial Director who'd be brought in on a decent wage but hugely incentivised by a profit share or strong bonus structure, based purely on the success of his/her department.
Paying someone a massive base salary usually takes away the hunger (or some of it, at least) to succeed. It makes me wonder how much of Pearlman's salary was to be the Yanks' puppet and to learn how to do Huw's job, especially as commercial income has hardly improved. |
Any good sales person earns an awful lot more in bonuses and commissions than they do on salary alone. | |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 14:20 - Feb 5 with 3309 views | jasper_T |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 13:52 - Feb 5 by builthjack |
He is costing the club money. Someone on a tenth of his money, with performance related bonuses, would do a far better job. |
Isn't that what Leigh Dineen did by bringing in Low Cost Vans in the summer? | | | |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 16:06 - Feb 5 with 3123 views | builthjack |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 14:20 - Feb 5 by jasper_T |
Isn't that what Leigh Dineen did by bringing in Low Cost Vans in the summer? |
I don't know. Was it Dineen who brought them in?
What was that deal worth? | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:09 - Feb 5 with 3117 views | cymrojack |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 12:12 - Feb 5 by Darran |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 16:20 - Feb 5 with 3075 views | SomethingRandom |
Very insightful article. Shows how things have been getting worse and worse over the last few years with the sale to the Americans helping to continue the financial decline.
It seems that to try and stay in the Premier League once Laudrup left we had to pay ever higher transfer fees and ever higher wages to players who warranted neither. | |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 16:30 - Feb 5 with 3040 views | LeonWasGod |
Most of that was published when the 16/17 accounts came out this time last year - e.g.
The next interesting update will be when the 17/18 accounts are released, towards the end of this month if the timing follows previous years. |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:31 - Feb 5 with 3037 views | cymrojack |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 16:20 - Feb 5 by SomethingRandom |
Very insightful article. Shows how things have been getting worse and worse over the last few years with the sale to the Americans helping to continue the financial decline.
It seems that to try and stay in the Premier League once Laudrup left we had to pay ever higher transfer fees and ever higher wages to players who warranted neither. |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 16:38 - Feb 5 with 3018 views | headcleaner |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:09 - Feb 5 by cymrojack |
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Does anyone really know what the players are on? I always find the figures banded around fanciful I've heard this and that amount and they are seldom correct. So Bony was on a huge wedge after man city but were we paying it all?
our current squad I'd be Gobsmacked if there are too many on more than 15K. I would bet players like roberts or Oli are on less than 10K whilst there might be a few left on more than 15. dyer, Routs, Fer, Mcnaughton might all be on 15 or a little above but Mulder can't be and Rodon and James are never on anything like that.
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 16:48 - Feb 5 with 3003 views | jasper_T |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 16:38 - Feb 5 by headcleaner |
Does anyone really know what the players are on? I always find the figures banded around fanciful I've heard this and that amount and they are seldom correct. So Bony was on a huge wedge after man city but were we paying it all?
our current squad I'd be Gobsmacked if there are too many on more than 15K. I would bet players like roberts or Oli are on less than 10K whilst there might be a few left on more than 15. dyer, Routs, Fer, Mcnaughton might all be on 15 or a little above but Mulder can't be and Rodon and James are never on anything like that.
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Footballer wages in the UK are not publicly declared, unlike in some other countries (Italy, for example). The vast majority are simply guesswork.
Sometimes you get leaks (the details of Bony's move to City were up on footballleaks) and sometimes you get rumours that build momentum until they're simply accepted as "fact".
I can tell you I know that Matt Grimes was on £10k/week when we signed him from Exeter. Whether you believe that is up to you, I can't prove it to you with a payslip or anything. | | | |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 17:08 - Feb 5 with 2946 views | headcleaner |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 16:48 - Feb 5 by jasper_T |
Footballer wages in the UK are not publicly declared, unlike in some other countries (Italy, for example). The vast majority are simply guesswork.
Sometimes you get leaks (the details of Bony's move to City were up on footballleaks) and sometimes you get rumours that build momentum until they're simply accepted as "fact".
I can tell you I know that Matt Grimes was on £10k/week when we signed him from Exeter. Whether you believe that is up to you, I can't prove it to you with a payslip or anything. |
that's fair enough. I'd imagine most of our current squad are on 7 to 10 K with a few just over that I find it hard to believe there are any on 40-50K a week still. the guy also says the Americans paid 100Mill for the club I also heard it was 60 again vast sums of money and widely apart. Whatever its a shady business and not straight forward.
I'd love to know what Pearlman has taken and what he has brought in via the global deals he talked about. also Dineen and his consultancy job how much and what for. those are the things I find most shady and hard to swallow. The crap players we recruited and loaned out or sold for a snip are heartbreaking but a little more transparent. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 17:22 - Feb 5 with 2896 views | cymrojack |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 17:08 - Feb 5 by headcleaner |
that's fair enough. I'd imagine most of our current squad are on 7 to 10 K with a few just over that I find it hard to believe there are any on 40-50K a week still. the guy also says the Americans paid 100Mill for the club I also heard it was 60 again vast sums of money and widely apart. Whatever its a shady business and not straight forward.
I'd love to know what Pearlman has taken and what he has brought in via the global deals he talked about. also Dineen and his consultancy job how much and what for. those are the things I find most shady and hard to swallow. The crap players we recruited and loaned out or sold for a snip are heartbreaking but a little more transparent. |
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| The Price Of Football (all read) on 17:26 - Feb 5 with 2883 views | chad |
| The Price Of Football (all read) on 17:08 - Feb 5 by headcleaner |
that's fair enough. I'd imagine most of our current squad are on 7 to 10 K with a few just over that I find it hard to believe there are any on 40-50K a week still. the guy also says the Americans paid 100Mill for the club I also heard it was 60 again vast sums of money and widely apart. Whatever its a shady business and not straight forward.
I'd love to know what Pearlman has taken and what he has brought in via the global deals he talked about. also Dineen and his consultancy job how much and what for. those are the things I find most shady and hard to swallow. The crap players we recruited and loaned out or sold for a snip are heartbreaking but a little more transparent. |
£100m was I think the total valuation of the club
We hold 21%
Think they bought 65%(?) for £65m
And got the over 75z voting right from the other shareholders retaining small % which they signed the voting rights of over to the buyers. I presume this was a condition of the sale going ahead as it would have given the buyers the effective total control of our club which would have been most important to them. |  | | |
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