Is McDonnell calling the shots? 07:43 - Jul 25 with 4873 views | waynekerr55 | | |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 13:14 - Jul 28 with 1425 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 13:02 - Jul 28 by Highjack | No I wouldn't. I'd have more respect for the guy. The fact remains that if he was still a back bencher at the time of the EU referendum he'd be one of the loudest railing against the EU, as he has for his entire career. However he was leader of the Labour Party and his key target demographic in the students were in the main pro EU, so he's sold out for me. |
No you are wrong. The Labour Party decided to back remain. | |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 13:28 - Jul 28 with 1412 views | MarinaJack |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 13:14 - Jul 28 by oh_tommy_tommy | No you are wrong. The Labour Party decided to back remain. |
in fairness the partys who are calling for a revote on brexit eg the libs and the snp faired badly at the election Labour said we would stand by the result and we gained seats | | | |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 13:40 - Jul 28 with 1405 views | Kerouac |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 10:41 - Jul 25 by Private_Partz | Well I think his actions have shown he was in favour. Like Battersea I am disappointed in his current stance though. Big fat porkies? Been a lot flying round from all Parties. It matters not one jot. A Leader can only try to influence. They can't make policy and regretfully Labour are committed to the 'will of the people'. There is a chink of light though. Their 'jobs first' negotiating stance is likely to fail imho. In such circumstances, assuming they are in power of course, they might well go back to a parliamentary vote or even another GE if it is beyond doubt hundreds of thousands of high paid jobs are going out the window. |
"regretfully Labour are committed to the 'will of the people'." ...says it all. | |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 16:30 - Jul 28 with 1373 views | Highjack |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 13:14 - Jul 28 by oh_tommy_tommy | No you are wrong. The Labour Party decided to back remain. |
I don't understand how I'm wrong. Several members of the Labour Party campaigned for leave. No doubt corbyn would have been one of them if he had been a back bencher. Do you disagree with this suggestion? | |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 17:02 - Jul 28 with 1363 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 16:30 - Jul 28 by Highjack | I don't understand how I'm wrong. Several members of the Labour Party campaigned for leave. No doubt corbyn would have been one of them if he had been a back bencher. Do you disagree with this suggestion? |
The party as a whole decided to back remain ,For the better of the country. They've now decided to back the result of the country. Corbyn backed remain . Would he have backed leave as a back bencher He might have . That's the just of it . I still believe you'd be on here slagging him off if he wanted another referendum. Or even wanted to give all people called max free beer for life .😉 | |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 18:12 - Jul 28 with 1347 views | WarwickHunt |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 17:02 - Jul 28 by oh_tommy_tommy | The party as a whole decided to back remain ,For the better of the country. They've now decided to back the result of the country. Corbyn backed remain . Would he have backed leave as a back bencher He might have . That's the just of it . I still believe you'd be on here slagging him off if he wanted another referendum. Or even wanted to give all people called max free beer for life .😉 |
"Corbyn backed remain". https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/27/brexit-corbyn-hard-right-p | | | |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 19:48 - Jul 28 with 1333 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Yes he did Or you could listen to vince cable the great | |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 20:23 - Jul 28 with 1323 views | Dr_Winston |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 13:02 - Jul 28 by Highjack | No I wouldn't. I'd have more respect for the guy. The fact remains that if he was still a back bencher at the time of the EU referendum he'd be one of the loudest railing against the EU, as he has for his entire career. However he was leader of the Labour Party and his key target demographic in the students were in the main pro EU, so he's sold out for me. |
This. If Corbyn was actually as principled and honest as he's made out to be perhaps many more people would have more time for him. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 20:27 - Jul 28 with 1319 views | exiledclaseboy |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 20:23 - Jul 28 by Dr_Winston | This. If Corbyn was actually as principled and honest as he's made out to be perhaps many more people would have more time for him. |
Does this apply in reverse? Theresa May was pro-remain but now leads a government (of sorts) determined to see the "will of the people" through to its natural conclusion. I don't believe for a minute that Boris believed in Brexit, for example. He's on record as saying the opposite. His own Brexit campaign was founded purely for political self interest and a bid to oust Cameron and take over the reigns. | |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 20:30 - Jul 28 with 1316 views | Dr_Winston |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 20:27 - Jul 28 by exiledclaseboy | Does this apply in reverse? Theresa May was pro-remain but now leads a government (of sorts) determined to see the "will of the people" through to its natural conclusion. I don't believe for a minute that Boris believed in Brexit, for example. He's on record as saying the opposite. His own Brexit campaign was founded purely for political self interest and a bid to oust Cameron and take over the reigns. |
For sure. I've got as little time for May as I do for Corbyn. Boris isn't even worth the entertainment value any more since he shit out of the leadership battle. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 21:11 - Jul 28 with 1304 views | WarwickHunt |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 19:48 - Jul 28 by oh_tommy_tommy | Yes he did Or you could listen to vince cable the great |
A token effort through gritted teeth. He now wants a hard Brexit. Go figure... | | | |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 21:31 - Jul 28 with 1292 views | Highjack |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 20:27 - Jul 28 by exiledclaseboy | Does this apply in reverse? Theresa May was pro-remain but now leads a government (of sorts) determined to see the "will of the people" through to its natural conclusion. I don't believe for a minute that Boris believed in Brexit, for example. He's on record as saying the opposite. His own Brexit campaign was founded purely for political self interest and a bid to oust Cameron and take over the reigns. |
It absolutely applies in reverse. They're all in the main self serving duplicitous chancers. Including corbyn, despite the narrative that he's different and somewhat more of a good principled honest man than the others. It's just not true. His snout is as deep in the trough as the others now. I doubt Skinner would have been so easily bought to renounce his lifelong Euroscepticism. | |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 22:59 - Jul 28 with 1273 views | WarwickHunt |
*sigh* Aye - the lifelong anti-EU backbencher did a great job in campaigning to remain in it. Honest. | | | |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 09:48 - Jul 29 with 1228 views | waynekerr55 |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 22:59 - Jul 28 by WarwickHunt | *sigh* Aye - the lifelong anti-EU backbencher did a great job in campaigning to remain in it. Honest. |
Corbyn the great can do no wrong in some people's eyes much as the same way he can do no right for others. | |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 14:26 - Jul 29 with 1193 views | exiledclaseboy | The "left" traditionally hate the EU because they see it as an uber capitalist vehicle to further the globalist agenda, the "right" hate the EU cos they see it as a socialist plot to eradicate national borders and diminish national identity. Funny. [Post edited 29 Jul 2017 14:30]
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 15:34 - Jul 29 with 1167 views | Highjack |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 14:26 - Jul 29 by exiledclaseboy | The "left" traditionally hate the EU because they see it as an uber capitalist vehicle to further the globalist agenda, the "right" hate the EU cos they see it as a socialist plot to eradicate national borders and diminish national identity. Funny. [Post edited 29 Jul 2017 14:30]
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And those in the centre hate it for both those reasons. | |
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Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 15:43 - Jul 29 with 1162 views | exiledclaseboy |
Is McDonnell calling the shots? on 15:34 - Jul 29 by Highjack | And those in the centre hate it for both those reasons. |
I'd imagine most centrists see the EU for what it is, a flawed entity but the advantages of membership outweigh the flaws. | |
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