| Neil Taylor 08:52 - Mar 6 with 6193 views | BenJ94 |
I've been getting a lot of stick from a mate of mine because I apparently seem to slag Taylor off a lot, but when I give a reason as to why I'm having a go, his excuse is "he doesn't have help from the winger" so we had this discussion yesterday again, and questioned him if it was the wingers fault he sh!t out on numerous tackles, give the ball away on more than 1 occasion etc, so am I being harsh? I personally think his time is up, he doesn't add anything to our attack or defence! What's your opinions? |  | | |  |
| Neil Taylor on 16:15 - Mar 6 with 1518 views | jack247 |
Thank god Alan Curtis and Francesco Guidollin pick the team.
He is a decent PL full back. He wouldn't have been a near ever present for 4 of our 5 years here if he wasn't.
If we persist without wingers next season, he will probably need to be replaced as he is not a wingback and never will be. If we revert to our old style, he is more than good enough. Particularly if we have a winger who doesn't track back in front of him. |  | | |
| Neil Taylor on 17:08 - Mar 6 with 1476 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Neil Taylor on 16:15 - Mar 6 by jack247 |
Thank god Alan Curtis and Francesco Guidollin pick the team.
He is a decent PL full back. He wouldn't have been a near ever present for 4 of our 5 years here if he wasn't.
If we persist without wingers next season, he will probably need to be replaced as he is not a wingback and never will be. If we revert to our old style, he is more than good enough. Particularly if we have a winger who doesn't track back in front of him. |
You state your OPINION as if it was TRUTH.
However others have different opinions just as valid as yours.
And no he was not "near ever present for 4 of our 5 years here", he would not have got a look in if Ben hadn't left. | | | |
| Neil Taylor on 17:15 - Mar 6 with 1458 views | jack247 |
| Neil Taylor on 17:08 - Mar 6 by A_Fans_Dad |
You state your OPINION as if it was TRUTH.
However others have different opinions just as valid as yours.
And no he was not "near ever present for 4 of our 5 years here", he would not have got a look in if Ben hadn't left. |
So do you. I can normally back my opinions up though.
Ben did leave. He was first choice for a season. You will have to remind me who our first choice left back for the other four was. Tiendalli? Tabanou? | | | |
| Neil Taylor on 17:17 - Mar 6 with 1442 views | Loyal |
| Neil Taylor on 17:15 - Mar 6 by jack247 |
So do you. I can normally back my opinions up though.
Ben did leave. He was first choice for a season. You will have to remind me who our first choice left back for the other four was. Tiendalli? Tabanou? |
A decent investment should have been made. |  |
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| Neil Taylor on 17:25 - Mar 6 with 1423 views | jack247 |
| Neil Taylor on 17:17 - Mar 6 by Loyal |
A decent investment should have been made. |
None of our managers in the last 5 years have seen it as a priority. If it is Huw signing the players, then he obviously hasn't either. | | | |
| Neil Taylor on 17:28 - Mar 6 with 1407 views | Loyal |
| Neil Taylor on 17:25 - Mar 6 by jack247 |
None of our managers in the last 5 years have seen it as a priority. If it is Huw signing the players, then he obviously hasn't either. |
I don't think Huw alone signs the players he has major influence as does the board, but that happens at most clubs at this level. As I said a decent investment should have been made it wasn't which is why we have the frustrating Taylor as opposed to any number of good full backs who are in league 1. | |
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| Neil Taylor on 17:32 - Mar 6 with 1405 views | jack247 |
| Neil Taylor on 17:28 - Mar 6 by Loyal |
I don't think Huw alone signs the players he has major influence as does the board, but that happens at most clubs at this level. As I said a decent investment should have been made it wasn't which is why we have the frustrating Taylor as opposed to any number of good full backs who are in league 1. |
Yet we have invested plenty of money in almost every other area of the squad over the past 5 years. Funny that. | | | |
| Neil Taylor on 17:39 - Mar 6 with 1388 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Neil Taylor on 17:15 - Mar 6 by jack247 |
So do you. I can normally back my opinions up though.
Ben did leave. He was first choice for a season. You will have to remind me who our first choice left back for the other four was. Tiendalli? Tabanou? |
Well for someone who usually backs up their opinions you didn't even get that right.
Ben was first choice for 2 seasons 2012/13 and 2013/14.
But never mind, better luck next time.
As to Tabanou, he was never given a chance, GM made sure of that and Tendalli was never Prem material in the first place.
But even Kingsley has shown that Taylor is not even "average Prem". | | | |
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| Neil Taylor on 17:47 - Mar 6 with 1372 views | DrGonzo |
I'd like to think we'd be able to do better than Taylor if I'm honest. Incredibly limited. Decent enough in defence but absolutely abysmal going forward. |  | | |
| Neil Taylor on 17:52 - Mar 6 with 1361 views | NeiltheTaylor |
While I agree that the team can always be improved in every position, Taylor always seems an odd target this year as there are a few other positions I'd look at first, along with their back ups... | |
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| Neil Taylor on 17:54 - Mar 6 with 1356 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Neil Taylor on 17:52 - Mar 6 by NeiltheTaylor |
While I agree that the team can always be improved in every position, Taylor always seems an odd target this year as there are a few other positions I'd look at first, along with their back ups... |
I hope you stick with tradition and change your username if and when we get a new first choice left back. |  |
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| Neil Taylor on 17:54 - Mar 6 with 1352 views | jack247 |
| Neil Taylor on 17:39 - Mar 6 by A_Fans_Dad |
Well for someone who usually backs up their opinions you didn't even get that right.
Ben was first choice for 2 seasons 2012/13 and 2013/14.
But never mind, better luck next time.
As to Tabanou, he was never given a chance, GM made sure of that and Tendalli was never Prem material in the first place.
But even Kingsley has shown that Taylor is not even "average Prem". |
Yeah fair play you are right about that. Taylor started the 2012-13 season, got an injury and was unavailable for the rest of it, however Laudrup had already brought Ben into the squad and he kept his place the following season. I'm not suggesting he would have displaced Ben in the first season if he was available.
So we sign a player for £4m and the under-pressure manager makes sure he doesn't play so he can keep a substandard fullback in the team? Really?
I agree Tiendalli wasn't Prem material. Do you wonder why we gave him another contract? If we didn't already have a Prem class left back, we wouldn't have, we would have signed someone better and made Taylor backup. Kind of adds weight to my point don't you think?
Davies was a youth player we got lucky with, Rodgers didn't have him in the squad. Kingsley has been signed on the cheap in the hope he makes it. If he ends up being as good as Davies was, he will rightly displace Taylor too.
Tabanou is the only serious attempt we have made at improving on Taylor in the last 5 years and he obviously wasn't as good. Garry didn't loan him out to France, he had been sacked by then. | | | |
| Neil Taylor on 17:55 - Mar 6 with 1347 views | NeiltheTaylor |
I hope we don't get a foreigner with a rude one, Clasie. Dodged a bullet with Fuchs! [Post edited 6 Mar 2016 17:57]
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| Neil Taylor on 17:57 - Mar 6 with 1330 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Neil Taylor on 17:55 - Mar 6 by NeiltheTaylor |
I hope we don't get a foreigner with a rude one, Clasie. Dodged a bullet with Fuchs! [Post edited 6 Mar 2016 17:57]
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It only really works with a profession based surname. | |
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| Neil Taylor on 17:59 - Mar 6 with 1321 views | NeiltheTaylor |
| Neil Taylor on 17:57 - Mar 6 by exiledclaseboy |
It only really works with a profession based surname. |
I will have to invest in Football Manager and start banging the drum for someone with a tidy name. | |
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| Neil Taylor on 17:59 - Mar 6 with 1326 views | Jackanapes |
| Neil Taylor on 17:54 - Mar 6 by exiledclaseboy |
I hope you stick with tradition and change your username if and when we get a new first choice left back. |
StephenTheKingsley. Sorted. |  |
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| Neil Taylor on 17:59 - Mar 6 with 1320 views | NeiltheTaylor |
It's a bit awkward that one. He'll have to go | |
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| Neil Taylor on 18:13 - Mar 6 with 1287 views | Darran |
| Neil Taylor on 17:59 - Mar 6 by Jackanapes |
StephenTheKingsley. Sorted. |
We should sign Pat Butcher from Walford FC. |  |
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| Neil Taylor on 18:55 - Mar 6 with 1237 views | johnlangy |
| Neil Taylor on 14:44 - Mar 6 by jackedup |
I don't rate Taylor, and he has benefitted from not having enough competition.
But it is very unreasonable to criticise Guidolin for not starting Kingsley on two days' rest, when according to Curtis, he was cramping up badly and having problems with his back and other areas.
I imagine Kingsley would have been very sore on Thursday and Friday, and in no condition to start Saturday.
Besides, he has a history of back problems, so if you don't rest him adequately between matches, you are taking unreasonable risks. |
Sensible post. | | | |
| Neil Taylor on 19:56 - Mar 6 with 1189 views | deanscfc |
| Neil Taylor on 17:47 - Mar 6 by DrGonzo |
I'd like to think we'd be able to do better than Taylor if I'm honest. Incredibly limited. Decent enough in defence but absolutely abysmal going forward. |
The players didn't want to pass to Taylor yesterday. A couple of times Leon saw Taylor in space and then looked for someone else. He just is incapable of going forward or delivering a decent cross. Everytike it looks like he may do, he passes backwards instead. Crucial we get a new left back as it slows our play down. | | | |
| Neil Taylor on 10:32 - Mar 7 with 1068 views | jasper_T |
| Neil Taylor on 08:55 - Mar 6 by magicdaps10 |
Taylor is extremely over rated by some at our club.
Van Anholt and Jetro Williams are full backs we should be looking at come the summer. |
The sort of names people who only watch motd come up with... | | | |
| Neil Taylor on 11:13 - Mar 7 with 1034 views | raynor94 |
| Neil Taylor on 19:56 - Mar 6 by deanscfc |
The players didn't want to pass to Taylor yesterday. A couple of times Leon saw Taylor in space and then looked for someone else. He just is incapable of going forward or delivering a decent cross. Everytike it looks like he may do, he passes backwards instead. Crucial we get a new left back as it slows our play down. |
Fair play your dislike of Taylor knows no bounds, not a world beater, but nowhere we as bad as you like to paint him |  |
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| Neil Taylor on 11:56 - Mar 7 with 1016 views | Loyal |
| Neil Taylor on 17:32 - Mar 6 by jack247 |
Yet we have invested plenty of money in almost every other area of the squad over the past 5 years. Funny that. |
The club are clearly happy with Taylor, obvious. | |
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| Neil Taylor on 11:58 - Mar 7 with 1013 views | Loyal |
| Neil Taylor on 18:13 - Mar 6 by Darran |
We should sign Pat Butcher from Walford FC. |
Fat bird ? Smokes fags and smells of hake ? | |
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| Neil Taylor on 12:56 - Mar 7 with 957 views | jack247 |
| Neil Taylor on 11:56 - Mar 7 by Loyal |
The club are clearly happy with Taylor, obvious. |
That says something to me. He isn't someone they have made a mistake on and tried to cut their losses like Eder or Tabanou. He has been here for 6 or 7 years and we have never seriously tried to replace him.
He isn't the worlds greatest full back, but he does a solid job. If Kingsley eventually takes his place great, if not, we have more pressing concerns in other positions. Can't believe some of the stick he gets on here. | | | |
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