| The council blame Huw on expansion on 10:28 - Sep 3 with 5071 views | jackforever |
Strange one this. Think the club should have done more though. To be fair to the council they have many issues facing them and have a budget that has been decimated. The club on the other hand have an income that is growing each year and surely have the stronger hand to deal with the council and get this sorted sooner rather than later.
For the council to bring an example in the press of one missed meeting though is pathetic. |  | |  |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 10:33 - Sep 3 with 5047 views | NeathJack |
"The council hasn't received any income from the Swans for using the stadium in the last 10 years."
What a great big steaming pile of disingenuous crap.
The Swans have paid millions into the management company set up by the council for the maintenance and upkeep of the stadium. This is the system the council chose to put in place so to insinuate that the club are not paying their way absolutely stinks. |  | | |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 10:43 - Sep 3 with 5003 views | Whiterockin |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 10:33 - Sep 3 by NeathJack |
"The council hasn't received any income from the Swans for using the stadium in the last 10 years."
What a great big steaming pile of disingenuous crap.
The Swans have paid millions into the management company set up by the council for the maintenance and upkeep of the stadium. This is the system the council chose to put in place so to insinuate that the club are not paying their way absolutely stinks. |
Should the SWEP print a retraction or clarify the facts. Wasn't there a FA inquiry into our stadium rent. |  | | |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 10:50 - Sep 3 with 4950 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Hubert out ! |  |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:13 - Sep 3 with 4864 views | monmouth |
Oh goody. Glad to see the spirit of co-operation and common purpose is alive and well in the usual Swansea fashion. Next January it is then. Nailed on. |  |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:13 - Sep 3 with 4864 views | whiterock |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 10:33 - Sep 3 by NeathJack |
"The council hasn't received any income from the Swans for using the stadium in the last 10 years."
What a great big steaming pile of disingenuous crap.
The Swans have paid millions into the management company set up by the council for the maintenance and upkeep of the stadium. This is the system the council chose to put in place so to insinuate that the club are not paying their way absolutely stinks. |
Agree,
To say the club doesn't pay rent is technically true but we are paying a fair percentage of gate receipts, its the way the council set it up.... The club has really put Swansea on the map and those in tourism have to have a major knock on effect plus keeping 400 people in work has major benefits to the city.
Disingenuous is the right word. | | | |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:17 - Sep 3 with 4847 views | tomdickharry |
Reschedule a meeting between both parties where any differences can be attended to,shouldn't be to difficult. | | | |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:24 - Sep 3 with 4798 views | icecoldjack |
TBH. Neither party nshould be dishing dirt in public . everyone should be pulling in the same direction for the greater good of the city, the amount of revenue the football is bring into swansea is estimated at around 30m a year, so you would think that the council would want to help bolster the local economy not fook it up any further than they have done(destroying the city centre etc)
It smacks of short term thinking and not for the first time !
There is obviously a major sticking point but ffs work through it and benifit the city and its people !
The swans is a major global company that needs strong partners the council should be helping them all they can IMO . |  | | |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:32 - Sep 3 with 4751 views | xmastree |
"Obtaining planning permission and buying the small parcel of land near the stadium has already cost the football club more than £1.5 million without a brick being placed.
The same parcel of land that the councillors now in position overruled the planners on and gave permission to macdonalds to build thus stopping the swans expanding the stadium at the time. All done for political gain and us as the pawn. It cost £1.5 million to rectify the situation. One of said councillors actually sits on the board of stadco now i'm told.
The tax payers of swansea have been paid back 100s of times over. The financial benefit to the region of the swans in the premier league can be measured in 100's of millions . The problem is that our council have never grasped this and made the most of it. A lost opportunity through total short sightedness and small mindedness. A swansea trait sadly. | | | |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:38 - Sep 3 with 4721 views | Darran |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:32 - Sep 3 by xmastree |
"Obtaining planning permission and buying the small parcel of land near the stadium has already cost the football club more than £1.5 million without a brick being placed.
The same parcel of land that the councillors now in position overruled the planners on and gave permission to macdonalds to build thus stopping the swans expanding the stadium at the time. All done for political gain and us as the pawn. It cost £1.5 million to rectify the situation. One of said councillors actually sits on the board of stadco now i'm told.
The tax payers of swansea have been paid back 100s of times over. The financial benefit to the region of the swans in the premier league can be measured in 100's of millions . The problem is that our council have never grasped this and made the most of it. A lost opportunity through total short sightedness and small mindedness. A swansea trait sadly. |
Who's on the Stadco board |  |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:38 - Sep 3 with 4719 views | JackSomething |
What's sad about this is that Huw's comments in the programme were quite mild. The council could have responded in kind. Something like:
"We agree that expanding the Liberty is an important objective for the football club and the city as a whole. While the council have approved the planning permission and facilitated the sale of a parcel of land, there remain many issues to resolve when such a complicated and major piece of work is planned. As a council, we are taking our responsibilities to all our residents very seriously. We look forward to sitting down with the club directors and moving this project forward as quickly as possible."
Instead they try to point score by referring to the building of the stadium (nothing to do with those running the council today), not receiving any income from the Swans (very misleading to the average resident), and referencing one cancelled meeting. Good on the club for refusing to be dragged into a war of words. |  |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:47 - Sep 3 with 4682 views | whiterock |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:17 - Sep 3 by tomdickharry |
Reschedule a meeting between both parties where any differences can be attended to,shouldn't be to difficult. |
Tom, there have been 100's, to pick on perhaps one missed is pathetic | | | |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:52 - Sep 3 with 4668 views | monmouth |
Little man syndrome. Jealousy married to incompetence and pomposity is a dangerous mix. "Who do they think they are...we'll show 'em who's boss". Councillors in general, Welsh Councillors in particular, Swansea Councillors in particular in particular.
Without large scale public pressure (and I can't see that), it's very possible to foresee no future expansion because of the asshole factor. Plus trying to get all parties to actually agree a revised financial arrangement, even if the planning issues were sorted?. Won't the council and the Ospreys see us as a big dripping roast? | |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:52 - Sep 3 with 4665 views | whiterock |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:38 - Sep 3 by Darran |
Who's on the Stadco board |
6 people, two from the club, two from Ospreys and two from Council who I believe is Cllr. Christine Richards and Cllr. Robert Francis Davies.
Council get casting vote | | | |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 12:04 - Sep 3 with 4621 views | Clinton |
Lets face it, the council built the stadium in the first place to secure the Rugby franchise, we are a happy by-product. Now, it seems to me the Swans is one of a very few economic success stories in the region.
Time the council allowed further expansion by allowing us to buy the stadium. They can the use the money to fund other things.
Obviously the "behind closed doors" approach is failing. Let everything come out in the open. Dish any dirt. Name names. Get everything clarified. Then move on and make a deal in the full view of public scrutiny.
Lets not imagine then SWEP is in any way independent what with the constant articles they run by council leaders past and present. |  |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 12:08 - Sep 3 with 4591 views | perchrockjack |
It's not new.
For whatever reasons Swansea councils have done little to aid the club and much to hinder it.
It's the city s biggest fookn asset so get in on before the club might well have the clout to say feck off | |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 12:21 - Sep 3 with 4551 views | snork44 |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 11:47 - Sep 3 by whiterock |
Tom, there have been 100's, to pick on perhaps one missed is pathetic |
Ah , but you have got to remember that the average Swansea City councilor is as thick as pig-shit and has the foresight and ambition as a retarded garden gnome. Swansea has been described as 'The graveyard of ambition',when it comes to our civic leaders it just shows what a fecking unimaginative and near sighted bunch of cretins they really are. This a council that promised that Swansea would have a 'European Boulevard' as a major attraction when entering the city,which turned out to be a few fancy paving stones and a few tweaks to the road layout or the abomination that was the Kingsway that ruined a couple of business's and led to fatalities, just to accommodate a fleet of glorified bendy buses that have been withdrawn as they are uneconomical to run. I think there is little bit of jealousy that the club is well run and prudent whereas the council is anything but that. |  |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 12:24 - Sep 3 with 4524 views | perchrockjack |
Amen to that and it's been evident for many years sonwtf vote these cretins into power.
It needs a sea change of attitude but such is the hatred for anything Tory, it will never happen. | |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 12:25 - Sep 3 with 4531 views | Bloodyhills |
The council, as ever, show their ineptitude and are economical with the truth. | |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 13:15 - Sep 3 with 4368 views | xmastree |
I'm not sure who it is only that he or she pushed the planning through and now sits on the board of stadco | | | |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 14:19 - Sep 3 with 4213 views | Al_Bundy |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 13:15 - Sep 3 by xmastree |
I'm not sure who it is only that he or she pushed the planning through and now sits on the board of stadco |
If the IT projects are anything to go by , Swansea Council are amongst the poorest in England and Wales for delivering anything on time and within budget.
There appears to be this goldfish bowl mentality within the city ! | | | |
| The council blame Huw on expansion on 14:40 - Sep 3 with 4149 views | perchrockjack |
Where s Lifey | |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 14:49 - Sep 3 with 4139 views | sully49 |
The wholly inadequate car parking site, adjacent to Morrison's is being leased to the club at what cost I don't know. Who gets all those £6's though?
I completely agree that PL football is the biggest asset the Council has, however, they are, (so are all Swansea residents) being hit with massive cut backs needed just to balance the books.
That said stifling the expansion of the Stadia makes no economic sense at all. With the obscene monies every PL clubs are going to receive at the end of the season, we need to look at buying their stake in the club once and for all, with £30M being the figure touted around. Most of the infrastructure completed it will make this plausible enough.
I also believe councillor sits on the board, which I would have thought any planning application would be easier not harder surely? |  |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 16:20 - Sep 3 with 3996 views | Glyn1 |
Jenkins criticises the council in the programme: the council defends itself: everyone criticises the council for defending itself. It’s pathetic.
Doesn’t the council appreciate how much Swansea’s success has benefitted “the city’s economy” i.e. some local pubs and Morgan’s Hotel?
I don’t care how they do it — just expand the effing stadium. |  |
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| The council blame Huw on expansion on 16:29 - Sep 3 with 3969 views | sully49 |
Too right. If plans have been submitted why don't we add to that in order to make even more seats? | |
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