| Belgium game 16:11 - Jun 9 with 5441 views | mattjenkins1990 |
If hypothetically the Swans were able to turn out against Belgium would you prefer to play our starting 11 or the Welsh first team
What would the score be for either game |  |
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| Belgium game on 17:12 - Jun 9 with 4368 views | Cooperman |
Good question. What is the higher standard, 8th in the Premier League or 22nd in the world (for the record I think the Wales position of 22nd is a little false and I would pitch us at mid 40's)?
I think 8th in the PL is the higher standard and that the sum of SCFC first eleven is better than Wales first eleven, so on this basis my preference would be SCFC v Belgium.
Wales v Belgium at Legoland = 0-1
SCFC v Belgium at Fortress Liberty = 2-1 |  |
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| Belgium game on 17:27 - Jun 9 with 4346 views | Aquinas |
Both would be losses.
Only Bale would get into the starting Belgium team out of the Welsh squad. Possibly Ramsey.
No one from Swansea's squad would start for Belgium either. Ash would make the squad but wouldn't get in ahead of Kompany, Vertonghen, Vermaelen etc.
I think a lot of people forget that it was a small miracle that we didn't concede in Belgium. If we score a goal on Friday, we'll have done well. |  | | |
| Belgium game on 17:45 - Jun 9 with 4316 views | mattjenkins1990 |
| Belgium game on 17:27 - Jun 9 by Aquinas |
Both would be losses.
Only Bale would get into the starting Belgium team out of the Welsh squad. Possibly Ramsey.
No one from Swansea's squad would start for Belgium either. Ash would make the squad but wouldn't get in ahead of Kompany, Vertonghen, Vermaelen etc.
I think a lot of people forget that it was a small miracle that we didn't concede in Belgium. If we score a goal on Friday, we'll have done well. |
i agree but two players dont make a team. I feel as a unit the SCFC squad are stronger than the welsh 11 including the stars | |
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| Belgium game on 18:53 - Jun 9 with 4232 views | yescomeon |
Swansea play week-in week-out together. I'd go for them to win over both. |  |
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| Belgium game on 19:21 - Jun 9 with 4191 views | jeza739 |
Only Bale and Ramsey from the national team would get in our side (and. I include Ben Davies in that assessment), though it would be hard on one of our midfield being left out I can't leave Ramsey out so I would expect Swans to give Belgium a harder game. Wales will do well to get a draw which would be a fab result |  | | |
| Belgium game on 20:36 - Jun 9 with 4110 views | JBT95 |
| Belgium game on 19:21 - Jun 9 by jeza739 |
Only Bale and Ramsey from the national team would get in our side (and. I include Ben Davies in that assessment), though it would be hard on one of our midfield being left out I can't leave Ramsey out so I would expect Swans to give Belgium a harder game. Wales will do well to get a draw which would be a fab result |
You mean like the previous two draws we got over there and have only lost to them when reduced to 10 men and then only conceded from set pieces.
Tool. |  | | |
| Belgium game on 20:38 - Jun 9 with 4105 views | JBT95 |
You can't compare Swansea and Wales as like another poster has said Swansea play together around 40 odd times per season and train for about 40 weeks of the year. Wales train for 6 weeks of the year and played 6 times last year in total.
Wales have some better players but as a whole Swansea have a stronger squad I'd say.
But Ramsey and Bale are different class.
Allen would get in Swans starting XI, anybody who says no is a joker.
A combined XI would probably be from me at the current time-
Either keeper really.
Gunter (Naughton has been injured) Williams (FF,Chester,Collins all as good as one another) Taylor
Bale Ramsey Allen Shelvey Montero
Bafe. [Post edited 9 Jun 2015 20:42]
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| Belgium game on 20:58 - Jun 9 with 4059 views | Neath_Jack |
This Wales' number one supporter chap is clearly off his rocker. If ever there was any doubt before, he's just confirmed it. |  |
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| Belgium game on 20:59 - Jun 9 with 4050 views | dgt73 |
| Belgium game on 20:54 - Jun 9 by shandyjack |
Chester and Collins as good as FF  |
And the welsh keeper is as good as L F.  |  |
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| Belgium game on 21:01 - Jun 9 with 4041 views | raynor94 |
| Belgium game on 20:58 - Jun 9 by Neath_Jack |
This Wales' number one supporter chap is clearly off his rocker. If ever there was any doubt before, he's just confirmed it. |
I just thought he'd been drinking |  |
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| Belgium game on 22:09 - Jun 9 with 3979 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Belgium game on 20:38 - Jun 9 by JBT95 |
You can't compare Swansea and Wales as like another poster has said Swansea play together around 40 odd times per season and train for about 40 weeks of the year. Wales train for 6 weeks of the year and played 6 times last year in total.
Wales have some better players but as a whole Swansea have a stronger squad I'd say.
But Ramsey and Bale are different class.
Allen would get in Swans starting XI, anybody who says no is a joker.
A combined XI would probably be from me at the current time-
Either keeper really.
Gunter (Naughton has been injured) Williams (FF,Chester,Collins all as good as one another) Taylor
Bale Ramsey Allen Shelvey Montero
Bafe. [Post edited 9 Jun 2015 20:42]
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Did you just say Federico Fernandez is on par with James Chester and James Collins? |  |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Belgium game on 23:29 - Jun 9 with 3927 views | cwrw |
No brainier for me the Swans are better than Wales. As has been said already Bale and Ramsey I'd welcome with open arms to the Swans but none of the others |  | | |
| Belgium game on 23:46 - Jun 9 with 3901 views | MrSwerve |
| Belgium game on 22:09 - Jun 9 by PozuelosSideys |
Did you just say Federico Fernandez is on par with James Chester and James Collins? |
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| Belgium game on 08:39 - Jun 10 with 3797 views | Dewi1jack |
| Belgium game on 20:59 - Jun 9 by dgt73 |
And the welsh keeper is as good as L F. |
Clearly a sign that someone isn't taking their meds properly.
Thought Joey ( who was very good for us, left for the wrong team but they well overpaid!!) ahead of Siggy was a laugh as well.
Would take Bale, Ramsey and any of the Welsh keepers as a back up to Fab.
Think of the damage we could do to PL defences with Bale in the team 
Go on HJ, go get him!! |  |
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| Belgium game on 09:26 - Jun 10 with 3770 views | PapaLazarou |
| Belgium game on 20:38 - Jun 9 by JBT95 |
You can't compare Swansea and Wales as like another poster has said Swansea play together around 40 odd times per season and train for about 40 weeks of the year. Wales train for 6 weeks of the year and played 6 times last year in total.
Wales have some better players but as a whole Swansea have a stronger squad I'd say.
But Ramsey and Bale are different class.
Allen would get in Swans starting XI, anybody who says no is a joker.
A combined XI would probably be from me at the current time-
Either keeper really.
Gunter (Naughton has been injured) Williams (FF,Chester,Collins all as good as one another) Taylor
Bale Ramsey Allen Shelvey Montero
Bafe. [Post edited 9 Jun 2015 20:42]
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Fabianski on a par with Crystal Palace's reserve team goalkeeper?!
This one's got to be a scummer on a wind-up, or a part-timer with Newport. The only time I see him posting something positive about the Swans is when it's about the Welsh players.
And yes, I'll be there on Friday! |  | | |
| Belgium game on 13:12 - Jun 10 with 3701 views | JBT95 |
| Belgium game on 09:26 - Jun 10 by PapaLazarou |
Fabianski on a par with Crystal Palace's reserve team goalkeeper?!
This one's got to be a scummer on a wind-up, or a part-timer with Newport. The only time I see him posting something positive about the Swans is when it's about the Welsh players.
And yes, I'll be there on Friday! |
Well Hennessey has played very well in games I have seen him in the flesh since he came back from injury, conceding no goals from open play and conceding only once in 180 Belgian away minutes, 90 of which were behind a make shift defence. [Post edited 10 Jun 2015 13:15]
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| Belgium game on 13:13 - Jun 10 with 3698 views | JBT95 |
| Belgium game on 08:39 - Jun 10 by Dewi1jack |
Clearly a sign that someone isn't taking their meds properly.
Thought Joey ( who was very good for us, left for the wrong team but they well overpaid!!) ahead of Siggy was a laugh as well.
Would take Bale, Ramsey and any of the Welsh keepers as a back up to Fab.
Think of the damage we could do to PL defences with Bale in the team
Go on HJ, go get him!! |
Siggy would not get in the team cause Ramsey is a better number 10. Allen would get ahead of Jack Cork for me. | | | |
| Belgium game on 13:14 - Jun 10 with 3695 views | JBT95 |
| Belgium game on 23:46 - Jun 9 by MrSwerve |
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West Ham fans were saying Collins was their player of the year.
Chester is a good CB and has only played with Ash 4 times, conceding no goals from open play. | | | |
| Belgium game on 13:24 - Jun 10 with 3677 views | Professor |
Belgium are a good side and I think we would struggle to beat them. Bale (no brainer), Ramsey, Allen, Andy King, Henessey and Collins/Chester could make our match day squad but not necessarily start. The Collins/Chester inclusion is as much on experience over Amat or Bartley than ability. Gunter is also a decent player and does well for Wales as does Joe (Ratboy) Ledley. Wales are a mediocre team on paper with one great player and a few good ones. Fortunately we play on grass (to than shocking 4G pitch in Andorra) and are a better team than its components. | | | |
| Belgium game on 14:29 - Jun 10 with 3631 views | PapaLazarou |
| Belgium game on 13:12 - Jun 10 by JBT95 |
Well Hennessey has played very well in games I have seen him in the flesh since he came back from injury, conceding no goals from open play and conceding only once in 180 Belgian away minutes, 90 of which were behind a make shift defence. [Post edited 10 Jun 2015 13:15]
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But nothing to choose from between him and Fabianski?! Pull the other one! | | | |
| Belgium game on 15:08 - Jun 10 with 3606 views | Dewi1jack |
| Belgium game on 13:13 - Jun 10 by JBT95 |
Siggy would not get in the team cause Ramsey is a better number 10. Allen would get ahead of Jack Cork for me. |
Joey, as much as I think he's a good player, would be on the bench behind Corky.
Siggy, IMHO, puts in far more effort and better performances on a much more regular basis than Ramsey, so it's Siggy for me. Ramsey as an impact player
Bale (with or without an Alice band) would saunter into our team no probs.
I'd even think about letting Jazz, Gerry, or Dwight go to free up a wage packet/ squad slot for Bale. 
In fact, looking at your team selection, I'd keep Jazz over Gunter as well. Even though I'd prefer if we just went with 3 at the back, rather than either!!
Hennessy on a par with Åukasz FabiaÅ„ski?
Collins or Chester equally as good as Fede?
Really?
On what planet?
Can I have the recipe for what you're drinking?
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| Belgium game on 16:59 - Jun 10 with 3560 views | JJJack |
| Belgium game on 15:08 - Jun 10 by Dewi1jack |
Joey, as much as I think he's a good player, would be on the bench behind Corky.
Siggy, IMHO, puts in far more effort and better performances on a much more regular basis than Ramsey, so it's Siggy for me. Ramsey as an impact player
Bale (with or without an Alice band) would saunter into our team no probs.
I'd even think about letting Jazz, Gerry, or Dwight go to free up a wage packet/ squad slot for Bale.
In fact, looking at your team selection, I'd keep Jazz over Gunter as well. Even though I'd prefer if we just went with 3 at the back, rather than either!!
Hennessy on a par with Åukasz FabiaÅ„ski?
Collins or Chester equally as good as Fede?
Really?
On what planet?
Can I have the recipe for what you're drinking?
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Ramsey is a far, far better player than Siggy mate. You'd have to be blind not to see that. I haven't noticed Siggy being linked with a £50m move to Barca.....
Gunter > Jazz (but not Rangel or Naughton)
I genuinely would struggle to pick between Davies v Taylor (I prefer Davies ceteris paribus)
Again I'd struggle to separate Allen from Cork or Ki. On last season's form it would be one of the Swans players. Ledley too is highly effective these days for Wales and palace...don't underestimate his importance to both sides because of his "previous existence".
Hennessey is very unlucky at club level and did very well when used last year. Perhaps not at Fab's level but been superb for Wales and is the better shot stopper IMO.
I very much like Chester....Collins is a weak international CB but does a job for the cloggers in Landan.
I like HRK and rate him about Dyer's level. Vokes would certainly make the Swans bench.
Overall, I'd go for Ramsey, Bale and Davies in our starting XI but probably not any others. |  | | |
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