| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? 12:17 - Jun 2 with 9255 views | Swandefaidest |
Hard to understand why Andrew Godden as Chairman and Stewart McDonald as Supporter Rep both walked away from their Trust roles in July 2021? This was when the Trust was, according to their message last June, on the brink of taking legal action and things would soon start to move quickly. The decision facing the Trust board was probably the biggest decision of the Trust existence, after the non-decisions in 2015/16 before and after the club was sold. Them walking away at that moment is hard to understand as leaders don't walk away at critically important moments without good reasons?
Maybe they didn’t have the stomach to be part of taking legal action when things were obviously going to get rough and destabilise the club? Once legal action started, the perks of being Trust officers like Directors Box access on matchdays would surely have ended.
Maybe they knew that the legal case was flawed and not supported by the rest of the Board, and wanted to get out of dodge and blame the remaining board whilst trying to preserve their own reputations and legacies? (interestingly we are now told the Trust did not have funding and insurance properly lined up last summer).
Maybe they didn’t want to spend more personal time on the Trust? This is understandable, but seems unlikely for Andrew Godden as he has since spent hundreds of hours writing essays and continuously slating Dave Dalton and the people who did have the courage to carry on and finally deal with this 6 year long debacle. Stewart McDonald has been as publically silent since leaving the board as he was when Supporter Rep, so no clues there.
Maybe they have some personal issues to deal with - in which case I am sorry for them and wish them well. This is hard to see in the case of Andrew Godden as you would normally expect this to lead to an injection of empathy rather than what looks like an obsession with criticising everything the current Trust board does, giving and stirring up abuse with his own version of events, and acting as if he is still chairman from the peanut gallery. If this is the situation for either of them lets hope they can get any help and professional support they need.
All hard to understand but hey ho. |  | | |  |
| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 20:44 - Jun 7 with 850 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 18:47 - Jun 7 by waynekerr55 |
He's just chatting covfefe as usual |
Had they listened to the old fool on the hill above Resolven the SCST would have £15m in the bank and a 5% holding. They would have put £1m extra into the club for the Convertible loan note for extra cash for Darling fee which they can now not afford. This would all that would have been needed to avoid dilution by buying cheap new shares.
Sadly for SCST being in the majority f 1000 brains pouring scorn on free thinkers just leads you and you chums into poverty and disappointment and blaming some one else like the "sellouts". You are in a perpetual state of being betrayed and let down by others be it the "so called sellouts" or the current "sell out" SCST board. A win in court was a fantasy narrative spun by people long gone.
Fans were given the key to the club VIP suite but screwed up. They may get a third chance to cash in and this time must not screw it up by posturing and showboating for the east stand radicals. Cash is king. They need to work out how to invest it in the new inflationary world. Only the old fool on the hill talks inflation. No one else does. No one else understands. [Post edited 7 Jun 2022 20:47]
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| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 21:23 - Jun 7 with 809 views | Chief |
| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 20:44 - Jun 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Had they listened to the old fool on the hill above Resolven the SCST would have £15m in the bank and a 5% holding. They would have put £1m extra into the club for the Convertible loan note for extra cash for Darling fee which they can now not afford. This would all that would have been needed to avoid dilution by buying cheap new shares.
Sadly for SCST being in the majority f 1000 brains pouring scorn on free thinkers just leads you and you chums into poverty and disappointment and blaming some one else like the "sellouts". You are in a perpetual state of being betrayed and let down by others be it the "so called sellouts" or the current "sell out" SCST board. A win in court was a fantasy narrative spun by people long gone.
Fans were given the key to the club VIP suite but screwed up. They may get a third chance to cash in and this time must not screw it up by posturing and showboating for the east stand radicals. Cash is king. They need to work out how to invest it in the new inflationary world. Only the old fool on the hill talks inflation. No one else does. No one else understands. [Post edited 7 Jun 2022 20:47]
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- well you've got the fool bit right but the rest is fantasy. We know the Americans were prepared to go to court to try and avoid paying the trust anything near £15million. Laughable. So I don't know who you think would have paid them £15million.
- we also know the trust were not invited to join the CLN so that's another fantasy impossibility you dreamt up.
- the sellouts did sell out and they did betray the trust. The current board then betrayed the members by ignoring themembers. Umsure why you find this difficult to fathom, it's a perfectly accurate version of events.
- the trust wernt given first and second chances so youve fabricated that too. The old fool on the hill is such a deluded sycophant he wont listen to basic logic and facts that have been explained many times. The trust can only invest in certain things - you know this. None of the options are feasible with the funds the trust has had / has. You know this. If they'd received the windfall they should have had by selling to the Americans instead of being excluded they would have had enough money to invest in things like property to combat inflation. So blame the sellouts and Americans for that. Which is exactly why the trust were rightfully aggrieved.
- and this magical third opportunity you speak of - why on earth should the trust have any faith in the Americans colluding with new buyers to exclude the trust again? A shareholders agreement? Oh yea they really respected the last one didn't they. There's nothing stopping them instigating another betrayal by ploughing on again knowing the trust wont take legal action because they dont have enough funds and could easily betray the membership again. Precedents have been set, faith lost and bridges burnt. |  |
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| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 22:31 - Jun 7 with 771 views | AndyCole |
| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 13:13 - Jun 6 by onehunglow |
Vestibule.
Now you ve truly done it.
AC is going to rip into you.
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Richie. Wannabe Waynekerr ain't worth the air time he so yearns on this subject or any other. A proper pretender, with shallow pockets. No class.
Thinks he's done well for himself in outer Watford and worse still thinks the likes of Darran and the meek clan are impressed. Proper schoolboy error, by the likes of him.
He's all a bit....meh, nothing, a proper hanger-on. Surprised you acquaint yourself with the shoddy like. Warwick was/is much more your level mate.
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| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 22:59 - Jun 7 with 755 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 21:23 - Jun 7 by Chief |
- well you've got the fool bit right but the rest is fantasy. We know the Americans were prepared to go to court to try and avoid paying the trust anything near £15million. Laughable. So I don't know who you think would have paid them £15million.
- we also know the trust were not invited to join the CLN so that's another fantasy impossibility you dreamt up.
- the sellouts did sell out and they did betray the trust. The current board then betrayed the members by ignoring themembers. Umsure why you find this difficult to fathom, it's a perfectly accurate version of events.
- the trust wernt given first and second chances so youve fabricated that too. The old fool on the hill is such a deluded sycophant he wont listen to basic logic and facts that have been explained many times. The trust can only invest in certain things - you know this. None of the options are feasible with the funds the trust has had / has. You know this. If they'd received the windfall they should have had by selling to the Americans instead of being excluded they would have had enough money to invest in things like property to combat inflation. So blame the sellouts and Americans for that. Which is exactly why the trust were rightfully aggrieved.
- and this magical third opportunity you speak of - why on earth should the trust have any faith in the Americans colluding with new buyers to exclude the trust again? A shareholders agreement? Oh yea they really respected the last one didn't they. There's nothing stopping them instigating another betrayal by ploughing on again knowing the trust wont take legal action because they dont have enough funds and could easily betray the membership again. Precedents have been set, faith lost and bridges burnt. |
All the horrible mistakes were in 2016 with a strategy that was defective. The sun was out the girls were dancing in the hay shed petrol was cheap. There was no Brexit and no one had heard of Covid 19.
Ideally the SCST would have announced they were desperate to sell up and would cut a deal in two weeks. Sell 16% and hold 5%. They would want close and friendly relations with Jase and Steveo. Of course they did the reverse and looked for conflict. A poor strategy.
Bridges have been rebuilt and the SCST are all working off the same page. The SCST missed the boat first time around but can cash in to the tune of £30m+ if the US people sell up in the PL. The new Shareholder agreement wanted by all parties will include drag on and tag on agreements as you would expect for US corporate lawyers. It will be as tight as a drum.
I see this as progress. You can keep moaning of being cheated. By now members will have seen through this fake narrative. They were told case was good to go 3 years ago. It was not. They were told the fee were reasonable. They were £10m plus more. Over half the value of 2016. They were told it as a strong case. No one would fund it. | |
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| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 08:13 - Jun 8 with 702 views | waynekerr55 |
| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 20:44 - Jun 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Had they listened to the old fool on the hill above Resolven the SCST would have £15m in the bank and a 5% holding. They would have put £1m extra into the club for the Convertible loan note for extra cash for Darling fee which they can now not afford. This would all that would have been needed to avoid dilution by buying cheap new shares.
Sadly for SCST being in the majority f 1000 brains pouring scorn on free thinkers just leads you and you chums into poverty and disappointment and blaming some one else like the "sellouts". You are in a perpetual state of being betrayed and let down by others be it the "so called sellouts" or the current "sell out" SCST board. A win in court was a fantasy narrative spun by people long gone.
Fans were given the key to the club VIP suite but screwed up. They may get a third chance to cash in and this time must not screw it up by posturing and showboating for the east stand radicals. Cash is king. They need to work out how to invest it in the new inflationary world. Only the old fool on the hill talks inflation. No one else does. No one else understands. [Post edited 7 Jun 2022 20:47]
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Morning Rudy Guiliani |  |
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| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 11:09 - Jun 8 with 669 views | onehunglow |
| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 22:31 - Jun 7 by AndyCole |
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Richie. Wannabe Waynekerr ain't worth the air time he so yearns on this subject or any other. A proper pretender, with shallow pockets. No class.
Thinks he's done well for himself in outer Watford and worse still thinks the likes of Darran and the meek clan are impressed. Proper schoolboy error, by the likes of him.
He's all a bit....meh, nothing, a proper hanger-on. Surprised you acquaint yourself with the shoddy like. Warwick was/is much more your level mate.
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Wayne make a point of going out of hi way to meet me and wifey.
A class man and an intelligent one at that.One of the few on here to be able to interacts with me at my level.A welcome relief .
As for warwich the Brutal, he got f with fatigue with the clowns on thee sites and won't be back. One of a select bunch and one whose company to savour.
I've met many on these sites and several have been found out to be rather disappointing individuals when it comes down to the nitty gritty and not the half drunken fancrushes we see from those more interested in making out they are high priests of Fanship.
There's a lot to be aid to going to games on one's own and avoiding the pre match drink and crap and simply watching the game. Ive been to many games some of here would not be aware of .Why should anyone announce their arrival like the Queen of Sheba (no sexism meant there). | |
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| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 11:38 - Jun 9 with 553 views | Chief |
| What happened at the Trust in July 2021? on 22:59 - Jun 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
All the horrible mistakes were in 2016 with a strategy that was defective. The sun was out the girls were dancing in the hay shed petrol was cheap. There was no Brexit and no one had heard of Covid 19.
Ideally the SCST would have announced they were desperate to sell up and would cut a deal in two weeks. Sell 16% and hold 5%. They would want close and friendly relations with Jase and Steveo. Of course they did the reverse and looked for conflict. A poor strategy.
Bridges have been rebuilt and the SCST are all working off the same page. The SCST missed the boat first time around but can cash in to the tune of £30m+ if the US people sell up in the PL. The new Shareholder agreement wanted by all parties will include drag on and tag on agreements as you would expect for US corporate lawyers. It will be as tight as a drum.
I see this as progress. You can keep moaning of being cheated. By now members will have seen through this fake narrative. They were told case was good to go 3 years ago. It was not. They were told the fee were reasonable. They were £10m plus more. Over half the value of 2016. They were told it as a strong case. No one would fund it. |
You're just repeating things that have already been discredited on this thread. You are incapable of addressing counterpoints such as who will give the trust £15mill? You know they weren't invited into th CLN so why suggest it? You know the Americans haven't honoured previous SHAs so why should they again? You know what the trust can and can't invest in and you know what funds they do have wont do anything. Yet you still rabbit on this nonsense. | |
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