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Great site here for tracking projections and polling for the Presidential, House and Senate elections over the next month. A wealth of info on each state in each race.
Half truths and misinformation,you've just described your precious BBC and Guardian. But hey you can carry on with your sniping,no real information to offer,just an outraged outlook on everything you don't like.
Well there you have it, an outraged look on everything you don't like, for example the BBC and The Guardian. Unlike Fox News and The Baltimore Sun, world renowned sources of information for being completely unbiased! My source of information is better than yours, methinks! So when devil worshiping Hillary wins, do we all have to go around holding crosses?
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US Elections 2016 on 20:02 - Oct 12 with 3652 views
Well there you have it, an outraged look on everything you don't like, for example the BBC and The Guardian. Unlike Fox News and The Baltimore Sun, world renowned sources of information for being completely unbiased! My source of information is better than yours, methinks! So when devil worshiping Hillary wins, do we all have to go around holding crosses?
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Your sources are implacable. Hilary Clinton worships the Devil. We may have to wear crosses And garlic necklaces (no I made that up) I would like to see the teeny weeny it's bit of evidence before I believe any of this. Don't get me wrong, I love the Hammer Films but .......... Well, you know
Strong and stable my arse.
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US Elections 2016 on 21:04 - Oct 12 with 3601 views
Well there you have it, an outraged look on everything you don't like, for example the BBC and The Guardian. Unlike Fox News and The Baltimore Sun, world renowned sources of information for being completely unbiased! My source of information is better than yours, methinks! So when devil worshiping Hillary wins, do we all have to go around holding crosses?
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Typical of an empty can to pick out one rumour that was one mans word against hers. You fail to mention the FACT her mentor and hero was a 12 year veteran of the KKK and her eugenecyst Nazi supporting idol. Never mind the amount of innocent people she's killed. I bet Blair is a big hero of yours. Besides cheap mocking your only real argument is to play the race card so i'm surprised you've nailed your flag to her mast. Actually considering you nod to everything the television tells you,I'm not.
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US Elections 2016 on 21:33 - Oct 12 with 3576 views
Typical of an empty can to pick out one rumour that was one mans word against hers. You fail to mention the FACT her mentor and hero was a 12 year veteran of the KKK and her eugenecyst Nazi supporting idol. Never mind the amount of innocent people she's killed. I bet Blair is a big hero of yours. Besides cheap mocking your only real argument is to play the race card so i'm surprised you've nailed your flag to her mast. Actually considering you nod to everything the television tells you,I'm not.
Sorry, that is all incoherent nonsense! Race card? All suppliers of 'news' come with agendas. The trick is to work out which ones are able to support their assertions with meaningful evidence and which ones pander to rednecks desperate to hear want they want to hear!
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US Elections 2016 on 21:57 - Oct 12 with 3557 views
Sorry, that is all incoherent nonsense! Race card? All suppliers of 'news' come with agendas. The trick is to work out which ones are able to support their assertions with meaningful evidence and which ones pander to rednecks desperate to hear want they want to hear!
Here is some more televisual evidence as you seem to like that so much.
TYT massively to the left yet they seem to think the same. Trump would be crucified for that sort of comment. Even better below
Oh dear she wanted to build a wall to keep the Mexican illegals out. They probably didn't tell you that on bbc though did they.... And she wanted to send vulnerable innocent children back to a dangerous indefinite future. I can't believe the Guardian never made you aware of any of this.
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US Elections 2016 on 22:49 - Oct 12 with 3517 views
Typical of an empty can to pick out one rumour that was one mans word against hers. You fail to mention the FACT her mentor and hero was a 12 year veteran of the KKK and her eugenecyst Nazi supporting idol. Never mind the amount of innocent people she's killed. I bet Blair is a big hero of yours. Besides cheap mocking your only real argument is to play the race card so i'm surprised you've nailed your flag to her mast. Actually considering you nod to everything the television tells you,I'm not.
As you know, I like looking into surprising facts, and especially FACTS. This is what I've come up with, but I would love to see anything that contradicts it.
Margaret Sanger Margaret Sanger was undoubtedly a champion of Eugenics. Inspired by interpretations of Darwin, it had support across the political spectrum, from HG Wells and Marie Stopes to Hitler himself and the eugenic policy of forcibly sterilising the mentally handicapped, survived into the 1970s in Social Democratic Sweden. The most consistent champion against it was the Catholic Church. But was she a Nazi supporter? http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/articles/sanger-hitler_equation.php Sanger never met Hitler, except in her unconscious (see below). And the reality is that despite the fact that Sanger's anti-militarism and isolationism during the 1920s and 1930s at times obscured her abhorrence of the Nazis, she was deeply shocked and horrified by the evils and dangers of fascism, Hitler and the Nazi party. "All the news from Germany is sad & horrible," she wrote in 1933, "and to me more dangerous than any other war going on any where because it has so many good people who applaud the atrocities & claim its right. The sudden antagonism in Germany against the Jews & the vitriolic hatred of them is spreading underground here & is far more dangerous than the aggressive policy of the Japanese in Manchuria." (MS to Edith How-Martyn, May 21, 1933 [MSM C2:536].) She joined the American Council Against Nazi Propaganda and "gave money, my name and any influence I had with writers and others, to combat Hitler's rise to power in Germany." ("World War II and World Peace," 1940? [MSM S72:269].) For Hitler the feeling was mutual; in 1933 the Nazis burned Sanger's books along with those of Ellis, Freud, German sexologist Magnus Hirschfeld, and others. (Ellis to MS, Sept. 3, 1933 [LCM 3:385].)
Robert Byrd Byrd admitted to his membership of the KKK, and it was used against him by his political opponents as long ago as 1952, when he was already apologising for it. He claimed he had only been a member for nine months, but this book review has evidence of contacts with Klan members, if not of actual membership, from 1942, 1944 and 1946.Is there any evidence that he was a member for 12 years? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105. You can read about his later expressions of regret there, and what black political leaders thought of him. It could be that you think a politician changing their mind is yet more evidence of their moral baseness, but Americans in general have changed their social attitudes by a long way in lots of areas since then, and most people would argue that the country is better for it. If you prefer a politician that stayed true-blue and rock-solid on race through his career, you can look to Jesse Helms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Helms Interestingly, voters chose to re-elect the changeable Byrd and the constant Helms several times over. Another echo of the past in this campaign is that a former chief of staff of Helms', John Washburn, is Trump's policy director. As Clinton was born in 1947, she would have known Byrd as the repentant senior senator rather than the eager young Klansman, but it's questionable how much of a "mentor" he was - after all, he was a vocal and energetic opponent of the invasion of Iraq, and she obviously wasn't.
As a postscript, I saw the "super predator" video. Unfortunately, in the red corner next month is Mr Trump, who would have hanged the Central Park Five, and still thinks they did it, even though they have been cleared by the confession of a man whose DNA was found on the victim. Make your own judgements on who represents the lesser evil.
As you know, I like looking into surprising facts, and especially FACTS. This is what I've come up with, but I would love to see anything that contradicts it.
Margaret Sanger Margaret Sanger was undoubtedly a champion of Eugenics. Inspired by interpretations of Darwin, it had support across the political spectrum, from HG Wells and Marie Stopes to Hitler himself and the eugenic policy of forcibly sterilising the mentally handicapped, survived into the 1970s in Social Democratic Sweden. The most consistent champion against it was the Catholic Church. But was she a Nazi supporter? http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/articles/sanger-hitler_equation.php Sanger never met Hitler, except in her unconscious (see below). And the reality is that despite the fact that Sanger's anti-militarism and isolationism during the 1920s and 1930s at times obscured her abhorrence of the Nazis, she was deeply shocked and horrified by the evils and dangers of fascism, Hitler and the Nazi party. "All the news from Germany is sad & horrible," she wrote in 1933, "and to me more dangerous than any other war going on any where because it has so many good people who applaud the atrocities & claim its right. The sudden antagonism in Germany against the Jews & the vitriolic hatred of them is spreading underground here & is far more dangerous than the aggressive policy of the Japanese in Manchuria." (MS to Edith How-Martyn, May 21, 1933 [MSM C2:536].) She joined the American Council Against Nazi Propaganda and "gave money, my name and any influence I had with writers and others, to combat Hitler's rise to power in Germany." ("World War II and World Peace," 1940? [MSM S72:269].) For Hitler the feeling was mutual; in 1933 the Nazis burned Sanger's books along with those of Ellis, Freud, German sexologist Magnus Hirschfeld, and others. (Ellis to MS, Sept. 3, 1933 [LCM 3:385].)
Robert Byrd Byrd admitted to his membership of the KKK, and it was used against him by his political opponents as long ago as 1952, when he was already apologising for it. He claimed he had only been a member for nine months, but this book review has evidence of contacts with Klan members, if not of actual membership, from 1942, 1944 and 1946.Is there any evidence that he was a member for 12 years? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105. You can read about his later expressions of regret there, and what black political leaders thought of him. It could be that you think a politician changing their mind is yet more evidence of their moral baseness, but Americans in general have changed their social attitudes by a long way in lots of areas since then, and most people would argue that the country is better for it. If you prefer a politician that stayed true-blue and rock-solid on race through his career, you can look to Jesse Helms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Helms Interestingly, voters chose to re-elect the changeable Byrd and the constant Helms several times over. Another echo of the past in this campaign is that a former chief of staff of Helms', John Washburn, is Trump's policy director. As Clinton was born in 1947, she would have known Byrd as the repentant senior senator rather than the eager young Klansman, but it's questionable how much of a "mentor" he was - after all, he was a vocal and energetic opponent of the invasion of Iraq, and she obviously wasn't.
As a postscript, I saw the "super predator" video. Unfortunately, in the red corner next month is Mr Trump, who would have hanged the Central Park Five, and still thinks they did it, even though they have been cleared by the confession of a man whose DNA was found on the victim. Make your own judgements on who represents the lesser evil.
The main issue i have with her is her lust for killing people. The woman just can't stop lying whether it's about her past or Benghazi. The amount of innocent people her and Bill are responsible for killing is terrible. http://www.mintpressnews.com/hilary-clintons-israel-iran-iraq-libya-record-indic http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/11/the-warmongering-record-of-hillary-clinto I don't care if she's racist or a eugeicyst,the reason i posted these videos was because she's used the 'race card' to discredit Trump on things she has done herself. If you support her,good for you,that's your choice. Personally i don't like any of them,however Trump hasn't killed any children that I'm aware of so he's gotta be a better bet. There are loads of articles that contradict your links,but you'd only try finding a way to twist them into some kind of conspiracy theory meaning we'd just go round in circles like we used to so i just can't be bothered. Good night
US Elections 2016 on 10:06 - Oct 14 by BrianMcCarthy
I'll still be happier when I see it with my own eyes. I think the odds on Brexit were just as high and I remain wary of the 'shy tory' syndrome.
I can't see it, Brian.
It's pretty dire when senior figures of the Republican organisation abandon him rather than lose the party's advantage in other branches of government.
Typical of an empty can to pick out one rumour that was one mans word against hers. You fail to mention the FACT her mentor and hero was a 12 year veteran of the KKK and her eugenecyst Nazi supporting idol. Never mind the amount of innocent people she's killed. I bet Blair is a big hero of yours. Besides cheap mocking your only real argument is to play the race card so i'm surprised you've nailed your flag to her mast. Actually considering you nod to everything the television tells you,I'm not.
Ho Ho Ho But you ain't no Disco
Strong and stable my arse.
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US Elections 2016 on 11:18 - Oct 14 with 3282 views
It's pretty dire when senior figures of the Republican organisation abandon him rather than lose the party's advantage in other branches of government.
I can't either, Isaw, but I'm going to be cautious right up until the results are in.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Chubbs, you've always come across like a decent guy on here, but you are beginning to come across a bit David Icke on this topic.
Thanks to Sheen for actually bothering to do the proper research to dispel some of the comments you were making on Hilary - stating them as fact - when, in reality, a big leap was made, and they were by no means "facts". I actually found something the other day which also blew out of the water your evaluation of the 12yr old rape case she acted as the defense lawyer in, which quotes from the judge, and various other people involved (at the time and in memoirs) all showing she was appointing to the case, and had her request to be removed rejected). They laughing thing is also dispelled. I'll try to find it at some point and post it.
But going back to Sheen's post, there's no need to resort to accusing him of supporting Hilary simply because he backs Israel (or by insinuation is Jewish). As, Sheen himself can testify to, he and I fall on different sides of that debate (a monster thread from years back on here too!), but there's no need to resort to that.
We get you don't like her. And she isn't very likeable; we all agree. Many of us (and many people in the world and the US) just think she'll be a better President than Donald Trump.
As for this child killing, she hasn't actually killed any children herself directly, with her bare hands, has she. She'd be locked up. Has she made decisions around military intervention (or a lack of military intervention, like Obama today), which have resulted in deaths of children (and adults), of course. That is the nature of the role. Often all possible approaches involve people losing their lives. Decisions around military intervention, diplomatic relationships and, ultimately Politics, involve balancing up all manner of factors and making what you think is the best decision for your country, Sometimes decisions involve doing somethings you don't want to do. Did she get it wrong before? Almost certainly. Does she feel remorse? I have no idea. Is she a "child killer"? No.
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US Elections 2016 on 18:45 - Oct 14 with 4348 views
Hunter to reply to your post,yes its a very emotive subject for me and i generally get belittling replies rendering my balanced mind disfunctional at times.
I respect David Icke,i obviously don't believe everything that he says but he's very knowledgeable when it comes to Globalization/neo Liberalism.
Well the comments i made regarding Hilary and Robert Byrd were correct,just because the man apologized a few times means little when he still opposed the Civil rights act and voting rights for racial minorities almost 2 decades after leaving the KKK.
Byrd joined with Democratic senators to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964,[32] personally filibustering the bill for 14 hours, a move he later said he regretted.[33] Despite an 83-day filibuster in the Senate, both parties in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Act, and President Johnson signed the bill into law.[34] Byrd also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 but voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1968. In 2005, Byrd told The Washington Post that his membership in the Baptist church led to a change in his views. In the opinion of one reviewer, Byrd, like other Southern and border-state Democrats, came to realize that he would have to temper "his blatantly segregationist views" and move to the Democratic Party mainstream if he wanted to play a role nationally. Lifted from Wiki Maybe he changed his ways because it was the only way to save his political skin,plenty of them do it as Hilary is now. She wanted to build a wall and send all the illegals back not long ago. She labelled young black men super predators but is now their greatest cheerleader. I don't trust any of them,that includes Trump as i've said all along.
No idea what you mean about the 12 year rape case? I don't ever remember anything about that.
As for digging out Mr Sheen you are right and if you're reading this,i'm sorry mate,you caught me in a terrible mood and i'll be honest it was a cheap shot.
There is no way on Gods green earth that that lunatic should hold that position of power so we'll always disagree on that.
We're also going to have to disagree on your last paragraph,i can't put the selfish actions of politicians ahead of the life of one child never mind over half a million in Iraq and loads more in Lybia/Syria etc and the war on the Middle East will continue just as vigorously with her in charge. Yes she doesn't pull the trigger but in my eyes the decision makers are just as culpable.
Anyway i think this will be my last post on this thread as i'm clearly in a tiny minority and its now just become about venting my anger. See you on some football related discussions.
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US Elections 2016 on 19:29 - Oct 14 with 4318 views
I've learned a lot from your posts on this thread just as I do whenever you post. I'll be hoping that Trump loses because his potential for danger and disharmony is far greater than Clinton's even though the latter's Middle East record makes me sick to my stomach. Still, what you've posted has made me more educated on Clinton's persona and past and while what you've posted may or may not be circumstantial evidence of past crimes or misdemeanours on her part it certainly helps to paint a more rounded picture of her. Thanks for that.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Hunter to reply to your post,yes its a very emotive subject for me and i generally get belittling replies rendering my balanced mind disfunctional at times.
I respect David Icke,i obviously don't believe everything that he says but he's very knowledgeable when it comes to Globalization/neo Liberalism.
Well the comments i made regarding Hilary and Robert Byrd were correct,just because the man apologized a few times means little when he still opposed the Civil rights act and voting rights for racial minorities almost 2 decades after leaving the KKK.
Byrd joined with Democratic senators to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964,[32] personally filibustering the bill for 14 hours, a move he later said he regretted.[33] Despite an 83-day filibuster in the Senate, both parties in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Act, and President Johnson signed the bill into law.[34] Byrd also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 but voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1968. In 2005, Byrd told The Washington Post that his membership in the Baptist church led to a change in his views. In the opinion of one reviewer, Byrd, like other Southern and border-state Democrats, came to realize that he would have to temper "his blatantly segregationist views" and move to the Democratic Party mainstream if he wanted to play a role nationally. Lifted from Wiki Maybe he changed his ways because it was the only way to save his political skin,plenty of them do it as Hilary is now. She wanted to build a wall and send all the illegals back not long ago. She labelled young black men super predators but is now their greatest cheerleader. I don't trust any of them,that includes Trump as i've said all along.
No idea what you mean about the 12 year rape case? I don't ever remember anything about that.
As for digging out Mr Sheen you are right and if you're reading this,i'm sorry mate,you caught me in a terrible mood and i'll be honest it was a cheap shot.
There is no way on Gods green earth that that lunatic should hold that position of power so we'll always disagree on that.
We're also going to have to disagree on your last paragraph,i can't put the selfish actions of politicians ahead of the life of one child never mind over half a million in Iraq and loads more in Lybia/Syria etc and the war on the Middle East will continue just as vigorously with her in charge. Yes she doesn't pull the trigger but in my eyes the decision makers are just as culpable.
Anyway i think this will be my last post on this thread as i'm clearly in a tiny minority and its now just become about venting my anger. See you on some football related discussions.
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Consider the hatchet buried. There's few enough of us. No point falling out. I don't expect to change anyone's mind on here, but I do like looking into facts and claims, I certainly don't mind being challenged on them. They're both hold your nose candidates, I can't believe it's come to this.
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US Elections 2016 on 21:15 - Oct 14 with 4260 views
US Elections 2016 on 11:06 - Oct 14 by johncharles
Ho Ho Ho But you ain't no Disco
Disco ??
Who's that the Jewish commie boy ??
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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US Elections 2016 on 00:34 - Oct 15 with 4202 views
To my utter surprise I listened to some of the debate but only caught the last 15 minutes so I actually missed the part that will apparently lead tomorrow's headlines and that's Trumps refusal to commit to accepting the result assuming he doesn't win.
Can somebody please explain what that actually means abd the consequences for the result and him.
US Elections 2016 on 06:04 - Oct 20 by FredManRave
To my utter surprise I listened to some of the debate but only caught the last 15 minutes so I actually missed the part that will apparently lead tomorrow's headlines and that's Trumps refusal to commit to accepting the result assuming he doesn't win.
Can somebody please explain what that actually means abd the consequences for the result and him.
Thanks.
It means that Trump has narcissistic personality disorder and that America is a deeply divided country.
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