| US Elections 2016 10:34 - Oct 5 with 67720 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Great site here for tracking projections and polling for the Presidential, House and Senate elections over the next month. A wealth of info on each state in each race.
http://www.electionprojection.com/latest-polls/house-polls.php
Hopefully the warmongering Clinton wins it over the dangerously doolally Trump, and hopefully the Democrats can get the Senate back. |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 20:55 - Nov 9 with 2270 views | connell10 |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:45 - Nov 9 by Antti_Heinola |
This is brilliant Chubbs. A multi-millionaire who inherited all his wealth and has led a propfoundly easy and privileged life is a vote against the establishment? What establishment? I don't think the media forced him to say Mexicans were rapists, or forced him to talk about how he liked to grab pussy, or forced him to suggest building a wall to keep Mexicans out and so forth, did they?
The very idea that this will keep the 'corporate elite' out is the most laughable thing I've ever seen! He is the corporate elite personified! |
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| US Elections 2016 on 22:20 - Nov 9 with 2194 views | Brightonhoop |
Ft is pay er view, you'll have to paste it. |  | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 23:05 - Nov 9 with 2147 views | robith |
| US Elections 2016 on 22:20 - Nov 9 by Brightonhoop |
Ft is pay er view, you'll have to paste it. |
Sorry I thought it was readable I must have had a free view
Estonian government has collapsed. Pro Russian opposition looking to take charge. FT hinted at far heavier Putin involvement than Guardian - telling as Estonia was a specific example stated by Trump as a country he'd send a bill to rather than help Vs Russia
Estonia's government collapses as PM loses confidence vote
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/09/estonias-prime-minister-loses-confi |  | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 23:56 - Nov 9 with 2115 views | Hunterhoop |
| US Elections 2016 on 23:05 - Nov 9 by robith |
Sorry I thought it was readable I must have had a free view
Estonian government has collapsed. Pro Russian opposition looking to take charge. FT hinted at far heavier Putin involvement than Guardian - telling as Estonia was a specific example stated by Trump as a country he'd send a bill to rather than help Vs Russia
Estonia's government collapses as PM loses confidence vote
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/09/estonias-prime-minister-loses-confi |
There are many ways this plays out. Almost all with see a destabilising of Eastern Europe and the Far East, several options will result in wars, some could be very messy.
Of all the worries about Trump, mine is absolutely his threatened abandonment of the world policeman role. May all seem far fetched now....but so did a world war in the mid 30s.
Expect Latvia (historically part of of Rus) to come into play very soon. Ukraine could be annexed too. If either happen, what does the EU do if Trump has turned inward? If an EU member is attacked, aren't fellow members duty bound to protect them? And don't forget the mentalists leading Hungry and Poland. Both court Russia and bash the EU. Countries will have to pick sides or abstain and face the inevitable. And what about us? If we've left, the EU can't compete militarily. If we haven't, do we get involved still or apologise as we head for the exit?
In the Far East, how will Japan feel with an ever expansionist China flexing their muscles, with less protection from the US? Most of their troops have been pulled out now. How will South Korea react if the US step away from their protector role over there? North Korea up their nuclear testing....then what do South Korea so? Seek to defend themselves? You gave a classic arms race.
And this is ignoring Syria, Iraq, Israel/Palestine, and the whole mass of Middle East issues.
Very few of these situations end well. Several could impact the UK directly and indirectly in some ways. Some could see a lot of human destruction.
When historians piece the dots together in retrospect, it always seem so simple and obvious as to how something catastrophic occurred. At the time, most people view things in isolation and don't see it coming. Cause and Effect.
It doesn't mean any of the situations posed above will happen, but don't dismiss the distinct possibility of them. Significant political change normally results in bloodshed for mankind. Look back through history. Brexit, Trump...it all points to part of this wider upheaval. |  | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 00:59 - Nov 10 with 2067 views | kensalriser |
One possible outcome; Trump and Putin do deal to divide Europe into spheres of influence. Russia gets back the Soviet era satellite states, US gets Western Europe. Middle East troublespots are annihilated. Then you're all set up for Oceania and Eurasia vs Eastasia. |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 01:17 - Nov 10 with 2057 views | Hooparoo |
Christ, take a chill pill lads. The sun came up this morning and the Yanks are a resilient lot so lets just see what transpires.
Maybe you all just need a nice big cuddle. 😊 |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 01:19 - Nov 10 with 2054 views | Boston |
| US Elections 2016 on 12:49 - Nov 9 by stevec |
It's hilarious on the TV and radio today.
Same old faces talking to usual suspects, left politicians, celebrities, liberals and all still stuck in their rich fckin bubble, essentially hating the public. What an utter bunch of cnts.
As a rule of thumb, if a celebrity is on your side, you're on the wrong side. |
Don't forget the shockingly biased coverage by most of the worlds media who've completely dropped their pretence of reporting and have confirmed, if confirmation was necessary, that they are nothing more than common street walking presstitutes. They have failed the working class for decades, instead allying with global corporatism and the political class in their shared values of money as they cheat their way to fairness.
Any thought of comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable evaporates in the first year of college where the 'universal' has been erased from university. [Post edited 10 Nov 2016 1:37]
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| US Elections 2016 on 06:14 - Nov 10 with 1992 views | easthertsr |
| US Elections 2016 on 01:19 - Nov 10 by Boston |
Don't forget the shockingly biased coverage by most of the worlds media who've completely dropped their pretence of reporting and have confirmed, if confirmation was necessary, that they are nothing more than common street walking presstitutes. They have failed the working class for decades, instead allying with global corporatism and the political class in their shared values of money as they cheat their way to fairness.
Any thought of comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable evaporates in the first year of college where the 'universal' has been erased from university. [Post edited 10 Nov 2016 1:37]
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Mate, Trump is global corporatism personified! [Post edited 10 Nov 2016 6:15]
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| US Elections 2016 on 08:44 - Nov 10 with 1935 views | Discodroids |
upon my return from Spain Yesterday I listened to the Pete Beal fruit-and-veg-stall-coconut-matting-haired James O'brien on his LBC show , communicating into his microphone like Whispering Bob Harris introducing Keith Emerson Plunge a Dagger into his Keyboard on the old grey whistle test.
Im still riding the crest of the little white fluffy cloud of Overwhelming ecstasy some 24 hours later on the back of o'briens tormented Tones whose still omitting soft moans Like a whale dining on fcking Plankton this morning.
Listening to the smug patronising Cnt fall apart On his show at something he will never understand , The Iron Duke of North Chingford , i.e me, experienced The Rush..The Coming up...The religious and Consuming Nirvana like feeling of absolute known pleasures so untainted and pure as if delivered by the touch of God Himself.
Listening to O'brien flounder about in the style of Frankie Fraser in his rampton Romper suit , dribbling like a raspberry ripple on E wing over a pair of subtly scented Fermented Knickers from a twelve year old , My mind was indivisible from the palace of wisdom and the gates of perception that were once cast open to me back in the goa trance Tent at Creamfields, via the turntables of paul oakenfold mixing trance into ennio morricone Film Scores back in 1997 augmented on 6 micky mills.
Even my Fcking Central Heating Blowing up like dry ice and fertiliser in a terrorists sock upon my return from spain last night cant bring me down from my little white fluffy cloud today.
Viva Trump.
As we walk, hand and hand,
Sisters, brothers
We'll make it to the promised lands. [Post edited 10 Nov 2016 8:44]
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| US Elections 2016 on 09:42 - Nov 10 with 1902 views | stevec |
Know how much we all love the Daily Mail, if you get the chance today, turn to page 12.
Whole page devoted to Luvvies getting emotional about the new President.
And I'm feeling goood. |  | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 09:46 - Nov 10 with 1894 views | DannytheR |
| US Elections 2016 on 08:44 - Nov 10 by Discodroids |
upon my return from Spain Yesterday I listened to the Pete Beal fruit-and-veg-stall-coconut-matting-haired James O'brien on his LBC show , communicating into his microphone like Whispering Bob Harris introducing Keith Emerson Plunge a Dagger into his Keyboard on the old grey whistle test.
Im still riding the crest of the little white fluffy cloud of Overwhelming ecstasy some 24 hours later on the back of o'briens tormented Tones whose still omitting soft moans Like a whale dining on fcking Plankton this morning.
Listening to the smug patronising Cnt fall apart On his show at something he will never understand , The Iron Duke of North Chingford , i.e me, experienced The Rush..The Coming up...The religious and Consuming Nirvana like feeling of absolute known pleasures so untainted and pure as if delivered by the touch of God Himself.
Listening to O'brien flounder about in the style of Frankie Fraser in his rampton Romper suit , dribbling like a raspberry ripple on E wing over a pair of subtly scented Fermented Knickers from a twelve year old , My mind was indivisible from the palace of wisdom and the gates of perception that were once cast open to me back in the goa trance Tent at Creamfields, via the turntables of paul oakenfold mixing trance into ennio morricone Film Scores back in 1997 augmented on 6 micky mills.
Even my Fcking Central Heating Blowing up like dry ice and fertiliser in a terrorists sock upon my return from spain last night cant bring me down from my little white fluffy cloud today.
Viva Trump.
As we walk, hand and hand,
Sisters, brothers
We'll make it to the promised lands. [Post edited 10 Nov 2016 8:44]
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Sadly, I don't think he'd feel the same way about you, Glenn.
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.752064 [Post edited 10 Nov 2016 9:53]
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| US Elections 2016 on 09:57 - Nov 10 with 1869 views | Discodroids |
I can live with that Danny . I live with a lot worse in the probation service on a daily basis.
One of my colleagues has a picture of Mahmoud Al Zahar on her desk , ive got one of Micky Norcross the owner of the sugar Hut from Towie with one of his Positive mental Attitude Quotes .
Its the great basket of life in which we all must live. | |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:02 - Nov 10 with 1855 views | DannytheR |
| US Elections 2016 on 09:57 - Nov 10 by Discodroids |
I can live with that Danny . I live with a lot worse in the probation service on a daily basis.
One of my colleagues has a picture of Mahmoud Al Zahar on her desk , ive got one of Micky Norcross the owner of the sugar Hut from Towie with one of his Positive mental Attitude Quotes .
Its the great basket of life in which we all must live. |
Excellent. I'd get in there early and stick your name down for a gig as Sonderkommando. | | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:10 - Nov 10 with 2531 views | Antti_Heinola |
Why do they bother? They're doing us all a good turn of course!
Absolutely nothing in it for them.
No ulterior motives whatsoever. |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:15 - Nov 10 with 2525 views | Discodroids |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:02 - Nov 10 by DannytheR |
Excellent. I'd get in there early and stick your name down for a gig as Sonderkommando. |
not for me mate, although in my city days in the square mile i did once undergo a vigorous S&M Session With a fem dom dressed as ilsa Koch with bull whip .
we jews are kinky fukers like that [Post edited 10 Nov 2016 10:15]
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:55 - Nov 10 with 2467 views | Brightonhoop |
| US Elections 2016 on 23:05 - Nov 9 by robith |
Sorry I thought it was readable I must have had a free view
Estonian government has collapsed. Pro Russian opposition looking to take charge. FT hinted at far heavier Putin involvement than Guardian - telling as Estonia was a specific example stated by Trump as a country he'd send a bill to rather than help Vs Russia
Estonia's government collapses as PM loses confidence vote
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/09/estonias-prime-minister-loses-confi |
Thanks Robith. It's all a bit up in the air post Election but unless Putin can manipulate a pro-Russian vote Estonia is unlikely to be annexed because Nato has been reinforcing its border with troops, and other Nato members bordering Russia. So it would inevitably lead to war if Russia just marched in there.
So if the US did leave Nato, yes it would save them a fortune, but they would be relinquishing a major sphere of influence which I dont think the Military would allow Trump to do. Trumps as at risk from the establishment as the public who detest him. He's on dodgy ground. If he relinquished the smaller states to Russia without intervention Putin wont sto there, he'll take Poland and be eyeing Germany too which will trigger a terrible war in Europe again which would eventually suck in the US anyway, so it would be less costly to maintain influence in the long term.IMHO | | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 11:23 - Nov 10 with 2420 views | ElHoop |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:55 - Nov 10 by Brightonhoop |
Thanks Robith. It's all a bit up in the air post Election but unless Putin can manipulate a pro-Russian vote Estonia is unlikely to be annexed because Nato has been reinforcing its border with troops, and other Nato members bordering Russia. So it would inevitably lead to war if Russia just marched in there.
So if the US did leave Nato, yes it would save them a fortune, but they would be relinquishing a major sphere of influence which I dont think the Military would allow Trump to do. Trumps as at risk from the establishment as the public who detest him. He's on dodgy ground. If he relinquished the smaller states to Russia without intervention Putin wont sto there, he'll take Poland and be eyeing Germany too which will trigger a terrible war in Europe again which would eventually suck in the US anyway, so it would be less costly to maintain influence in the long term.IMHO |
I don't really get this idea that Putin wants to invade Estonia or the rest of Eastern Europe. Why? There's no philosophical or strategic motive that i can see. It would cost a fortune, which they don't have, and they might lose the cosy regime that they have at the moment.
Ukraine was a cockup by the USA and the EU, as there was no way that Russia was going to let them go into the EU with Crimea lost. They saw it as taking the piss and they did something about it. I doubt that they see the rest of Ukraine as a natural enemy and as for Poland why on earth would they want to go into there? I'm not getting it.
Estonia? There may be ethnic Russians there and plenty of them, but that doesn't make them fans of Putin. We have plenty of Americans living here but would they want Trump to have greater influence over the UK? More than likely plenty of the ethnic Russians are very happy to be living outside Russia, as things stand. [Post edited 10 Nov 2016 11:24]
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| US Elections 2016 on 11:41 - Nov 10 with 2395 views | robith |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:55 - Nov 10 by Brightonhoop |
Thanks Robith. It's all a bit up in the air post Election but unless Putin can manipulate a pro-Russian vote Estonia is unlikely to be annexed because Nato has been reinforcing its border with troops, and other Nato members bordering Russia. So it would inevitably lead to war if Russia just marched in there.
So if the US did leave Nato, yes it would save them a fortune, but they would be relinquishing a major sphere of influence which I dont think the Military would allow Trump to do. Trumps as at risk from the establishment as the public who detest him. He's on dodgy ground. If he relinquished the smaller states to Russia without intervention Putin wont sto there, he'll take Poland and be eyeing Germany too which will trigger a terrible war in Europe again which would eventually suck in the US anyway, so it would be less costly to maintain influence in the long term.IMHO |
I don't think anyone's saying there will be all out war - that isn't Putin's style at all. He'll do what he did in the Ukraine - foster dissent via ethnic Russians in his pay, then insist he must move in to protect their rights. I think people's perception of Putin is a bit odd - he's not some global megalomaniac ready to unleash armies at the drop of a hat. He is much more subtle and subversive than that. I don't think Putin wants Poland or Germany but he is very much driven by what he sees as the failings of the USSR which he wishes to restore. He sees a sphere of influence which should be Russia's, a kind of Eastern European mainfest detiny, and he wishes to restore it
The Baltics are target number one - the Russians consider them theirs, they were the only Eastern Europe states where some kind of fighting took place to get the Soviets out, and Estonia especially has been a big success story post joining the EU | | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 12:12 - Nov 10 with 2347 views | FDC |
Trump didn't mobilse the "white working class", Clinton lost the election.
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| US Elections 2016 on 12:39 - Nov 10 with 2313 views | Brightonhoop |
| US Elections 2016 on 11:41 - Nov 10 by robith |
I don't think anyone's saying there will be all out war - that isn't Putin's style at all. He'll do what he did in the Ukraine - foster dissent via ethnic Russians in his pay, then insist he must move in to protect their rights. I think people's perception of Putin is a bit odd - he's not some global megalomaniac ready to unleash armies at the drop of a hat. He is much more subtle and subversive than that. I don't think Putin wants Poland or Germany but he is very much driven by what he sees as the failings of the USSR which he wishes to restore. He sees a sphere of influence which should be Russia's, a kind of Eastern European mainfest detiny, and he wishes to restore it
The Baltics are target number one - the Russians consider them theirs, they were the only Eastern Europe states where some kind of fighting took place to get the Soviets out, and Estonia especially has been a big success story post joining the EU |
The trouble with Putin is you have to judge him by his actions,not his words, and he is very dangerous indeed.
There are some interesting quotes here from Shireff, ex Nato second in Command.
http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/09/heres-how-donald-trumps-election-could-lead-to-nuc | | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 13:03 - Nov 10 with 2275 views | BasingstokeR |
Disco if you ever phone into LBC can you let us know ahead of time! |  | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 13:15 - Nov 10 with 2203 views | Discodroids |
| US Elections 2016 on 13:03 - Nov 10 by BasingstokeR |
Disco if you ever phone into LBC can you let us know ahead of time! |
I tried to get on his show when he was slagging off people who live in Barking for knocking Billy Bragg about 6 months ago... but just like my back catalogue of letters to the evening standard ..i was shunned .
I sent off a great letter to the standard about John Bercow, Sally Bercow and Idris Elba the other day , but yet again they didnt publish it.
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| US Elections 2016 on 13:43 - Nov 10 with 2163 views | hopphoops |
| US Elections 2016 on 13:15 - Nov 10 by Discodroids |
I tried to get on his show when he was slagging off people who live in Barking for knocking Billy Bragg about 6 months ago... but just like my back catalogue of letters to the evening standard ..i was shunned .
I sent off a great letter to the standard about John Bercow, Sally Bercow and Idris Elba the other day , but yet again they didnt publish it.
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