| Formation 12:54 - Sep 1 with 5171 views | londonlisa2001 |
So, we are left with what we have at the moment and it's not all that pretty.
Thoughts turn to how we can compete this year, with what we have.
It seems to me we have a few glaring weaknesses, not least at the back, where we've looked incredibly shaky so far. Equally, we've looked toothless going forward, with a lack of creativity particularly from our wide players.
I was wondering if using this international break to try a new formation may be worthwhile.
Given the centre backs that we have, would it be worth trying a 'Wales type' formation where we have Amat and Mawson either side of VDH (as the tallest of the defenders) with FF as backup?
We could then play Kingsley and Naughton as wing backs (both being relatively quick and with at least some ability to cross the ball), have three in midfield that are less defensively focused (maybe Fer, Ki, Siggy, all rotating to some degree), and two of Baston, Llorente, Barrow, possibly Routledge up front.
It may not be the most attacking of formations, but at least shores us up. We could move to a 4 3 3 with Llorente, Baston and Barrow up front, bring Cork in for one of Fer or Ki, and go to 4 at the back as an alternative.
I am not certain it would work, but think it may be better than our current 4 2 3 1 set up, where we have a shaky defence and a big gap to the '1' up front when Gylfi is off form. |  | | |  |
| Formation on 12:57 - Sep 1 with 4115 views | costalotta |
Well I'd argue that we don't really have the right personal for our preferred formation. With that in mind the 3 at the back option is intriguing as we do have the players to execute it. Whether we'd be anybody is another matter.
I think it can be an attacking formation too and in that sense maybe we could play both Baston and llorente or Baston and barrow in the two up front. Midfield of ki, cork and for could work well. |  | | |
| Formation on 13:04 - Sep 1 with 4084 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Formation on 12:57 - Sep 1 by costalotta |
Well I'd argue that we don't really have the right personal for our preferred formation. With that in mind the 3 at the back option is intriguing as we do have the players to execute it. Whether we'd be anybody is another matter.
I think it can be an attacking formation too and in that sense maybe we could play both Baston and llorente or Baston and barrow in the two up front. Midfield of ki, cork and for could work well. |
Baston and Barrow may work in a 5 3 2 as Barrow would provide the pace that system needs. | | | |
| Formation on 13:06 - Sep 1 with 4067 views | Highjack |
Would Huw allow a change of formation? |  |
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| Formation on 13:09 - Sep 1 with 4049 views | costalotta |
| Formation on 13:04 - Sep 1 by londonlisa2001 |
Baston and Barrow may work in a 5 3 2 as Barrow would provide the pace that system needs. |
That's what I was alluding to.
The downside is that we don't have enough options in terms of replacements. We got plenty of average and older wingers who could play as the second striker. Not sure wher siggy would fit and and I'd worry that It could also render him obsolete?
Oh, what have I just done....expect siggy to b sold in January. | | | |
| Formation on 13:11 - Sep 1 with 4032 views | Highjack |
Playing the likes of Barrow down the middle would make the opposition defence think twice about pushing up and compressing the space which in turn would give the likes of Siggy more time and space that he is desperately starved of at the moment. | |
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| Formation on 13:12 - Sep 1 with 4034 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Formation on 13:09 - Sep 1 by costalotta |
That's what I was alluding to.
The downside is that we don't have enough options in terms of replacements. We got plenty of average and older wingers who could play as the second striker. Not sure wher siggy would fit and and I'd worry that It could also render him obsolete?
Oh, what have I just done....expect siggy to b sold in January. |
I'd put Ki, Fer and Siggy as the three in midfield and drop Cork as we wouldn't need a defensively minded midfielder as such with the three at the back? Siggy plays more centrally for Iceland so it could work if they all rotate, which will potentially give us more creativity.
The systems tends to work with ball playing centre backs (two of them) which we may now have? | | | |
| Formation on 13:14 - Sep 1 with 4021 views | perchrockjack |
What s got to me has been how easily average teams can rip us. I fear for us v Chelsea.
Hopefully, all our forebodings will be assuaged and we ll be ok but at this stage, matters look truly worrying.
Amat needs binning if only for the fact he s a red card walking .
Fernandez is also a sieve of a defender.
I m hoping guido looks at Mawson closely and plays him. If he s class he ll adapt. We cannot do much worse.
We also need to find a true captain | |
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| Formation on 13:14 - Sep 1 with 4019 views | costalotta |
| Formation on 13:12 - Sep 1 by londonlisa2001 |
I'd put Ki, Fer and Siggy as the three in midfield and drop Cork as we wouldn't need a defensively minded midfielder as such with the three at the back? Siggy plays more centrally for Iceland so it could work if they all rotate, which will potentially give us more creativity.
The systems tends to work with ball playing centre backs (two of them) which we may now have? |
Good call. | | | |
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| Formation on 13:16 - Sep 1 with 4004 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Formation on 13:11 - Sep 1 by Highjack |
Playing the likes of Barrow down the middle would make the opposition defence think twice about pushing up and compressing the space which in turn would give the likes of Siggy more time and space that he is desperately starved of at the moment. |
Exactly what I was thinking. It's what Bale does so well (I am NOT comparing the two...)
I just don't think our 'wingers' work really, so was trying to think of a way round it with the squad we have.
We could then use the wingers as a plan C (the 4 3 3 being plan B).
The formation would also allow us to use Britton in a better way, as he is good at linking up defence and attack, but just doesn't have the legs anymore for our current formation, he could slot into the midfield 3 in this set up, as could Cork,
As an added bonus, Taylor is used to the system, and Rangel could work better as a wing back these days, with less running back all the time (where his lack of pace lets him down). So we have back up across the board. | | | |
| Formation on 13:27 - Sep 1 with 3969 views | Smellyplumz |
| Formation on 13:16 - Sep 1 by londonlisa2001 |
Exactly what I was thinking. It's what Bale does so well (I am NOT comparing the two...)
I just don't think our 'wingers' work really, so was trying to think of a way round it with the squad we have.
We could then use the wingers as a plan C (the 4 3 3 being plan B).
The formation would also allow us to use Britton in a better way, as he is good at linking up defence and attack, but just doesn't have the legs anymore for our current formation, he could slot into the midfield 3 in this set up, as could Cork,
As an added bonus, Taylor is used to the system, and Rangel could work better as a wing back these days, with less running back all the time (where his lack of pace lets him down). So we have back up across the board. |
Send this in a letter to Francesco |  |
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""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make." | | Poll: | Huw Jenkins |
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| Formation on 13:30 - Sep 1 with 3956 views | costalotta |
| Formation on 13:27 - Sep 1 by Smellyplumz |
Send this in a letter to Francesco |
For god sake don't cc HJ in though. | | | |
| Formation on 13:34 - Sep 1 with 3945 views | Fireboy |
I've mentioned this in another topic after the hull game
We have become predictable in attack (especially at home) and weak in defence since losing ash
We need to adapt,to have a plan b and c but do we have the personnel to do it?
Imo a 5 3 2 would be a very good formation,having 3 ch's with naughton and kingsley getting forward more often but I would have a defensive midfielder ideally Leon behind 2 attacking midfielders in siggy and fer,they would have a free rein to get forward more to help the 2 strikers in baston and lorente
We could play 5 3 2 in away games and play defensively ala hull and 3 5 2 in the home games against the weaker teams,having 2 up front makes it harder for teams to come to the liberty to sit back and hit us on the break
Food for thought,hopefully guidolin has it all in hand  | | | |
| Formation on 13:37 - Sep 1 with 3926 views | PozuelosSideys |
Barrow will probaby be away at the ACON in Jan Feb too |  |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Formation on 13:44 - Sep 1 with 3900 views | costalotta |
| Formation on 13:37 - Sep 1 by PozuelosSideys |
Barrow will probaby be away at the ACON in Jan Feb too |
Has his country qualified? | | | |
| Formation on 13:44 - Sep 1 with 3898 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Formation on 13:37 - Sep 1 by PozuelosSideys |
Barrow will probaby be away at the ACON in Jan Feb too |
Ah, but think of the players we'll have signed in the January window
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| Formation on 13:47 - Sep 1 with 3882 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Formation on 13:44 - Sep 1 by costalotta |
Has his country qualified? |
Not sure actually. I hope not. Would at least be a tiny positive | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Formation on 13:51 - Sep 1 with 3869 views | perchrockjack |
Plenty of thought from posters but just hope guido is. | |
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| Formation on 13:54 - Sep 1 with 3846 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Formation on 13:44 - Sep 1 by costalotta |
Has his country qualified? |
No. |  |
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| Formation on 14:08 - Sep 1 with 3802 views | monmouth |
For all the haplessness of the Fernandezamatocaust I think they've had zero protection in front of them or much cover from the full backs. I would like Fer told to track his bloody man and Cork told that opposition don't get 15 yards of space to run at the two centre backs (and hence let them dive in like park players). I'd like all of our players to be told to press the opposition on the ball, and that's for the full 90. If you can't do that, get fit, because it's your frigging job.
Other than that, I think the whole crowd should cross their fingers whilst playing yankee doodle dandy through the medium of their integrated rear wind instruments. |  |
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| Formation on 14:33 - Sep 1 with 3735 views | jasper_T |
| Formation on 14:08 - Sep 1 by monmouth |
For all the haplessness of the Fernandezamatocaust I think they've had zero protection in front of them or much cover from the full backs. I would like Fer told to track his bloody man and Cork told that opposition don't get 15 yards of space to run at the two centre backs (and hence let them dive in like park players). I'd like all of our players to be told to press the opposition on the ball, and that's for the full 90. If you can't do that, get fit, because it's your frigging job.
Other than that, I think the whole crowd should cross their fingers whilst playing yankee doodle dandy through the medium of their integrated rear wind instruments. |
Just work harder, mun.
Not every squad is on Leicester-tech, pressing for 90 minutes isn't normal. | | | |
| Formation on 14:35 - Sep 1 with 3728 views | max936 |
I think with Ki it'll depend on whether he's woken up to the fact that he's a footballer let alone a Premier league one, because most of his showings last season were abject to say the least, which was really disappointing considering his undoubted talent. |  |
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| Formation on 14:43 - Sep 1 with 3698 views | jasper_T |
| Formation on 14:35 - Sep 1 by max936 |
I think with Ki it'll depend on whether he's woken up to the fact that he's a footballer let alone a Premier league one, because most of his showings last season were abject to say the least, which was really disappointing considering his undoubted talent. |
He doesn't seem to match well with Cork. His partnership with Shelvey was a lot more effective. | | | |
| Formation on 15:53 - Sep 1 with 3634 views | karnataka |
| Formation on 14:43 - Sep 1 by jasper_T |
He doesn't seem to match well with Cork. His partnership with Shelvey was a lot more effective. |
Are you suggesting we sell him to Newcastle then? |  | | |
| Formation on 15:59 - Sep 1 with 3611 views | max936 |
| Formation on 14:43 - Sep 1 by jasper_T |
He doesn't seem to match well with Cork. His partnership with Shelvey was a lot more effective. |
They did seem to have a understanding together and seemed to get on well. | |
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| Formation on 16:02 - Sep 1 with 3597 views | karnataka |
| Formation on 13:16 - Sep 1 by londonlisa2001 |
Exactly what I was thinking. It's what Bale does so well (I am NOT comparing the two...)
I just don't think our 'wingers' work really, so was trying to think of a way round it with the squad we have.
We could then use the wingers as a plan C (the 4 3 3 being plan B).
The formation would also allow us to use Britton in a better way, as he is good at linking up defence and attack, but just doesn't have the legs anymore for our current formation, he could slot into the midfield 3 in this set up, as could Cork,
As an added bonus, Taylor is used to the system, and Rangel could work better as a wing back these days, with less running back all the time (where his lack of pace lets him down). So we have back up across the board. |
I'm warming to this idea. Doesn't FG have past form for using this formation?
Choosing a formation that suits the players we've got? Whatever next? | | | |
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