| News Comment | Great Pompey Myths Debunked - No 1 The Origin of Scummers at 14:45:25
Thanks happy Jack always wondered where it started. Looks like it was about the time scummers started then if dirk doone is right. Sounds about right because I don't remember being called a scummer back in the 80s when I worked with pompey fans. |
| News Comment | Great Pompey Myths Debunked - No 1 The Origin of Scummers at 14:26:41
SaintNick I don't know or particularly care whether or not the so called scummer myth is fabrication or not, it probably is. What I am saying is that this part of his article is not true and therefore if this is not true how much of the rest of his article is true. I'm too old to care about being called a scummer anymore, living miles away it hasn't happened for years anyway. Stevedore must have spent ages compiling this article perhaps his next project could be a similar article on why we call them skates, oh maybe not! |
| News Comment | Great Pompey Myths Debunked - No 1 The Origin of Scummers at 13:18:55
SaintNick I don't know what legitimate strike you are talking about, the ferries and small cargo ships didn't all up and leave Southampton on the same day it was a gradual process over the years. When Portsmouth ferry port opened it was a small 1 berth operation with only 1 ship operated by Brittany Ferries who to my knowledge never sailed from Southampton employing a handful of dockers who were hardly in a position to "crush the dock labour scheme", the other ferries moved over a period of time. You seem to be trying to defend the dock labour scheme which was one of the worst examples of restrictive practices and needed to be abolished. I can't remember a strike in Portsmouth docks but I left the industry and the area some 20 years ago so can't be sure, but surely no strikes are a good thing. I still maintain the reason the ferries moved was purely commercial, if you want to believe otherwise that's your choice. |
| News Comment | Great Pompey Myths Debunked - No 1 The Origin of Scummers at 12:32:02
SaintNick I am not going to get involved with silly petty insults but having worked in both Southampton and then Portsmouth docks at the time the ferries moved I am telling it as it was, if you don't want to believe me so be it. There was no legitimate strike in Southampton against the ferries moving and there was no picketing, in fact the ferries and small cargo ships for that matter moved to Portsmouth over a period of years for the commercial reasons I've already mentioned. No doubt the appalling labour relations, strikes and generally poor reputation of Southampton dock workers at the time also played its part in the decisions. |
| News Comment | Great Pompey Myths Debunked - No 1 The Origin of Scummers at 11:04:54
I worked in the ferry industry during the time the ferries moved from Southampton to Portsmouth and there were 3 main reasons for the move 1 Portsmouth is closer to France saving time and fuel wasted sailing up Southampton Water. 2 The harbour charges were cheaper at Portsmouth and the facilities were better with a brand new purpose built ferry terminal. 3 The road connections with the M275 going straight to the port are much better. I can assure you the ferry port workers were unionised but they had the good sense to welcome the jobs the new ferry port provided. I do not recall Southampton dockers picketing the port so there was no crossing of picket lines. There was no outcry from unions throughout the country, why should there have been? The move was a sensible commercial decision as the years have proved. |
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