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at 07:31 10 Sep 2024
Reading the article critically?
Okay.
It’s an NYT article so you know it’s going to have a strong left wing bias and it has a history of being very anti-trump.
Then look at whether it’s an Op-Ed or made out to be an investigative piece and who the journalist is to make a judgement about both tone and what you expect the level of sensationalism will be.
Read it and distinguish between fact and opinion.
In this article, I’d say that the key point is where the money is going (the aggressive fundraising is neither here nor there) suggests ‘grifting’. This is underlined by the comparison to the con that was Trump university.
Did you read it differently?
Not saying I’m completely right btw. [Post edited 10 Sep 9:18]
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Reply | One for Tummer...
at 17:04 8 Sep 2024
And this word salad of craziness is from today:
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Reply | Jack Grealish and Declan Rice.
at 11:24 8 Sep 2024
I wonder how many of those Irish fans booing the English anthem will be back to supporting Man U or Liverpool today? |
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Reply | Labour voters
at 09:30 8 Sep 2024
Wasn’t aware of that. Ta 👍 |
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Reply | One for Tummer...
at 09:30 8 Sep 2024
It’s not how I see it, it’s how the general public see it. I’ve seen nothing up to now impressive about Harris but she’s moved the needle because she is who she is and she’s not Joe Biden.
It’s also how the Republican Party see it as they’ve struggled up to now to find a particular attack line as she doesn’t fit the usual candidate mold.
You seem to think I’m both a Harris supporter and for equality of outcome. What’s given you that idea? |
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Reply | One for Tummer...
at 16:39 7 Sep 2024
I think you’re right in ‘normal’ times.
But to beat Trump? Being a younger, black female means her stock rises dramatically, whether you think she’s any good or not. |
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Reply | One for Tummer...
at 15:08 7 Sep 2024
I’m not sure she has all that much media power behind her.
Younger voters don’t get their news from traditional sources and are far more likely to be influenced by social media.
Have you seen what Elon Musk has done to twitter? All the tech bros seem to be coming out on Trumps side.
I’m not championing Harris - I don’t know enough about her. I’ll wait for the debates first. |
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Reply | Rwanda
at 10:00 7 Sep 2024
It is an empirical question because the deterrent doesn’t actually exist.
As I said earlier, I have no problem at all with the principle of off shore processing, it just needs a government capable of doing it both correctly and legally.
Leaving the EHCR to enact the daft Tory plan is the definition of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
If we didn’t have such an adversarial political system, labour could have thrown their weight around shaping reasonable policy. Sadly the two main parties seem incapable of playing nicely with each other.
One of the reasons i voted Labour (this time) is that we need a collective European response to this. I didn’t think we’d get that from the Tories as a I think there’s one more lurch to the right for them to try and attract Reform voters.
Once they’ve got that out of their system an revert to one nation type conservatism, they’ll become a more sensible political choice.
All my opinion obviously! |
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Reply | Rwanda
at 08:43 7 Sep 2024
Not at all.
And at the risk of boring other posters further, there’s an additional opposition that’s around the spirit of the convention and the application of it.
It sounds woolly I know, but still holds water when it comes to the application of the associated laws and the legal challenges that stem from them.
Fact of the matter (in my eyes) is that the Tory legislation was never going to be workable and was such a waste of time and money.
Lots coming out last night that the Germans have been misrepresented over Rwanda so we’ll see. [Post edited 7 Sep 8:44]
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Reply | One for Tummer...
at 06:23 7 Sep 2024
Do you think Trump can laser in on that? I’m not so sure anymore. |
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Reply | One for Tummer...
at 21:10 6 Sep 2024
I think she’ll surprise a few.
I may be being naive, but I can’t square how someone with her legal career can be undone by Trump in a debate. |
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Reply | Rwanda
at 19:40 6 Sep 2024
Not taken as nasty at all AJ - you always post in a constructive way and I agree with an awful lot of it. Even if I don’t agree it doesn’t meant its wrong 😉.
My take on this is personal. Your right about the deemed unsafe asylum system and that became the sharp end of the legal argument.
For me, my biggest issue was the fact UK is a signatory of the UCR Convention, which allows people to seek asylum in any country they choose.
Processing of site and making that decision is fine with me. Stopping genuine asylum claims is not. |
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Reply | Rwanda
at 18:08 6 Sep 2024
That (in admittedly around about way) is linked to the right to return. Seems the Germans can get round it so I’ll keep an eye out for how it’s done. I’m always happy (ish) to be wrong and I like to learn.
I’ve never said I’m against third country processing and have been very vocal about the bill keeping 1000s here forever, not processing them and in turn, not allowing it to work.
I’m certainly not on my own. I’ve read widely around the legislation as time goes on, the lack of return is becoming more and more pertinent. |
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Reply | Rwanda
at 17:31 6 Sep 2024
Not from me.
I don’t think I ever posted about Rwanda being safe or not.
My issue that I’ve posted about many times is that bill was always unworkable, poorly written with a host of unintended consequences.
I’ve mentioned on many occasions how furious I’ve been that it was such a waste of time and money whose purpose wasn’t to solve illegal immigration but a straw man to woo reform voters.
It was pretending to be tough on the issue but it was never going to work. Smoke and mirrors.
The Germans might if they draft the legislation properly. We didn’t. |
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Reply | Rwanda
at 16:12 6 Sep 2024
If you just watch GeeBeebees and Talk TV then you'll think that immigrants are the problem with and the anwser to everything.
It's a lot more complicated that that. |
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Reply | Rwanda
at 15:55 6 Sep 2024
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Reply | Rwanda
at 12:02 6 Sep 2024
My understanding is that the Germans are intending to use Rwanda for third county processing.
This is entirely sensible, entirely legal and won't fall foul of the ECHR.
The Tory plan was to process in Rwanda, and give no option to return should the assylum claim be deemed legal. This is not sensible, not legal and would fall foul of the EHCR.
Some seem to think that the UK Rwanda plan failed tdue to the EHCR and lefty lawyers. It didn't. It failed because it was never ever going to work. It was an insanely poorly drafted bill.
So much time was spent banging against a brick wall to pretend to be tough it has cost us a fortune. Not just the Rwanda money but the massive hotel bills while trying to acheive the impossible, and of course the bill meant 10s of 1000s are now stuck here unable to work.
It's a concern that so many want to leave the EHCR (putting us in a trio with Belarus and Russia) because actually they didn't read or understand the legislation. Or of course their main sources are GeeBeeBees and Talk TV. |
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Reply | Lucy Letby Inquiry
at 17:31 5 Sep 2024
The best impartial investigative journalism we’ve had for decades. |
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