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Under 18s
at 15:57 9 Sep 2024

Do results at U18 level matter?

I thought it was about coaching players to be better, to develop skills, and to learn. If you're winning games what learning is there? You're in a much better place to lose more and identify the good players and performance, rather than win everything and struggle to identify who's really any good.

Of the U18s not many are likely to sign as first team players - we get 1 or 2 every few years and we know that ratio has to improve. I'd prefer to see players not good enough moved on and the better ones coached to be even better.
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Cricket 2024 County/International Thread
at 16:35 8 Sep 2024

Interesting day at the Oval today. Could still go either way.
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Player and Goal of the Month Votes - August
at 16:50 6 Sep 2024

POTM - Frey
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Half decent tv
at 11:59 6 Sep 2024

I dived into 'From'. Very Lost vibes but more interesting narrative.

Catching up with Sherwood S1 - very good.
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Today i am mostly eating......
at 10:08 6 Sep 2024

This is our chippy - Bonners - and they are superb.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/banksy-chip-shop-bonners-walthamstow-shut-ste
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You Are FIFA
at 21:01 4 Sep 2024

Yellow card 5 minute sin bin, tied in with the timewasting keeper shit above.
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Transfer rumours 2024
at 15:26 4 Sep 2024

Man Utd's Brandon Williams facing claims he inhaled laughing gas before high-speed car crash
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/man-utd-brandon-williams-claims-inhaled-laughin
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Another Michael Caine Moment
at 14:26 4 Sep 2024

The word with the most meanings in the OED is 'set' - 464 different definitions.
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First film you ever see at the cinema/pictures.
at 14:23 4 Sep 2024

First I remember was Jungle Book in Kingston somewhere.

The second one was Jaws when I was 7. It was released with an A certificate meaning anyone under 14 could see it with an adult - a bit like PG now.
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Player and Goal of the Month Votes - August
at 14:20 4 Sep 2024

Frey for both. He's been superb so far, making and scoring 3 and assisting 1 of the 8 goals we've scored.

The Luton 2nd goal was immense - for the experience in the away end, the finish, and how well we played in the build up to it.
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Clive
at 21:44 1 Sep 2024

Could have written it on the flight over...
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Smoking outside pubs
at 16:41 31 Aug 2024

This. Post game it's awful.
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We have one hell of a manager (n/t)
at 16:40 31 Aug 2024

He knew how to beat Luton and explained post match. They have an aggressive man to man high pressure. When we beat the press they have no cover and chances come. The 3 best chances - 2 goals and Dembele early chance - came from this situations happening.

He knows we need to defend better from crosses but his preparation for the teams we're playing is spot on.

He will go down as one of our best managers ever if we can keep him.

My favourite moment of this week about him was in the 1st win over Luton. We weren't awarded a free kick in the second half and he shouted something at the ref. Someone on the Luton bench (not Edwards) must have said to him to f-off because he turned to whoever it was and looked him straight on and said, "No, you f-off".

Superb.
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LFW Message Board Glossary
at 20:09 29 Aug 2024

"They should open up ER" for a 3rd round FA Cup tie at home to AFC Wimbledon/Preston/Burnley.
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School end
at 14:55 27 Aug 2024

I'd bet you get served quicker at HT than in Stan Bowles stand.
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Jermaine jenas
at 09:23 27 Aug 2024

FWIW I've been married for 30+ years although I have no idea why this matters in respect of this thread.

Of course it's not all men, and it's not even a majority, but that's not the point.

The point is that almost one in two women have experienced sexual harassment in their lifetimes and that's because the behaviour is normalised and accepted.

And boys are responsible for their thoughts. If you cede responsibility to women, then women become both the victims and causes of men's behaviour.
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Jermaine jenas
at 01:02 27 Aug 2024

Harassment is many many messages over a long period
No it's not. Harassment can be as simple as committing a behaviour twice - once is bad, twice is harassment.

It has been said , it was only a couple but to two women of which ONLY one reported it.
So because ONLY one reported it and it was ONLY two women it doesn't matter?

All was saying is that what he did was weird and wrong. Very odd in my book to be sending a top less picture of himself to two colleagues and arrogant but sexual harassment.
Yes, it is. If the messages sent were unwarranted that's still sexual harassment.

In general that particular charge , I would put at unwarranted touching etc and persistent messaging of which some was in appropriate.
See above - a repeated message is harassment.

Am speaking as an older person, back in my parents day, my mum would say it's just how men were ie pinching someone s bum was normal. In my time too, it was more liberal.
Back in my Mum's day the local nonces could go around sexually assaulting schoolgirls and get away with it because 'it's how men were'. That doesn't make it right or acceptable.

These days it's considered an offence.
Because it is.

If its not warranted then definitely people need to be aware but only one complained and this has therefore been halted which is good
Agreed.

I was questioning the offence of sackable offence, particularly after they been so lenient to a known paedophile to them , which was way worse.
I'd suggest the employer is holding themselves to a higher standard now following previous events and it is almost guaranteed he's in breach of contract. If not, he has the right to challenge it via employment law.

It's a weird world today, where if you brush too close to someone they can accuse you of unwanted attention but you can free of charge see all kinds of debauchery online that is legal.
You say a weird world, I say a normal world. I have managed to get 55+ years on this earth without having done that.

And then this bloke sends a top less picture of himself which is weird and wrong but people saying it's serious when the man has been an idiot, but from my experience it's not sackable
See above - contractual

From personal experience working for a small charity, the chief went with two of the staff, they got away with everything and wages were increased, the structure was all wrong and none of us could complain and we all needed our jobs so we all said nothing and he got away with everything
Whistleblowing legislation was brought in for this purpose.

This is nowhere near the same level. But I have been told off for trivialising it. But am speaking from personal experience of things a lot worse and all I highlighted was the BBC so lenient on Huw Edwards and paying him shed loads, whilst making Jenas a convenient scapegoat for the crap decisions in their past.
As above - contract and higher standard

Nowhere did I say I agreed with what he did. Just saying they could have dealt with this in a much fairer way.
If he has harassed someone and is in breach of his contract, why is it unfair?

But it's all turned out OK because Jenas won't be the successor to Lineker on MOTD...
Agreed

Probably now be someone squeaky clean. Joey Barton, he has quite a clean record and is a fine upstanding individual so I am led to believe !!! 😂
Irony

This is ridiculous though that it's front page news. Storm in a tea cup is the phrase.
It will be forgotten by the general public soon enough. It might even be acknowledged and forgotten by Jenas should he keep his family and another job. When will the victims of harassment forget it?

But these days everything is magnified way beyond what it should be.
Behaviour like this SHOULD be magnified and shown to be unacceptable.

The world today is completely mad !!!!
Or sane.

Common sense and reality are rarely in evidence. Everything is a MAJOR issue.
Things which have an impact on the personal live of abused women SHOULD be major.

The mobile phone generation is one that's removing the ability to be human....
The mobile phone has just publicised the behaviour which has been around for centuries and men (because it is) don't like being held up to new standards.

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2024 New Music
at 17:50 23 Aug 2024

New Psychlona album out in September:


[Post edited 23 Aug 17:51]
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The glow
at 16:25 21 Aug 2024

Described by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi as 'flow'.
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who was your number 2...
at 13:58 21 Aug 2024

Ian Gillard. Just got on and did what was needed week in, week out. Solid and dependable.
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