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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry 05:53 - Jan 3 with 16687 viewsAnotherJohn

Jess Phillips has rejected a request from Oldham Council for a Home-Office-led national inquiry into historic child exploitation in Oldham. It seems that Government prefers to frame this as a local issue, and is insisting that it is for the Council to decide on any future action. The Tories, Reform, Maggie Oliver and even Elon Musk, are wading in to excoriate Starmer. One allegation is that his leadership of the CPS may have been part of the problem. Some suggest there is a continuing establishment cover-up to avoid further inflaming racial tensions.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tories-demand-inquiry-into-grooming-gangs-

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-establishment-is-still-denying-justice-to-the-victim

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/rochdale-whistleblower-maggie-oliv
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:03 - Jan 18 with 469 viewsonehunglow

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:58 - Jan 18 by Scotia

What do they prey for at a mosque? Ask a Muslim, find out.

I can tell you for certain it's not to be able to rape children.


You go to many mosques then

“ Prey” ? Hmm.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:14 - Jan 18 with 447 viewsScotia

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:03 - Jan 18 by onehunglow

You go to many mosques then

“ Prey” ? Hmm.


Not really but I have several Muslim friends and amazingly none of them have ever raped anyone.
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:17 - Jan 18 with 437 viewsScotia

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:00 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston

Labour doing their best to gaslight the Nation...



It's pretty much what I and others have already said in this thread.
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:26 - Jan 18 with 426 viewsDr_Winston

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:17 - Jan 18 by Scotia

It's pretty much what I and others have already said in this thread.


Yes, and it's bollocks when they say it too.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:29 - Jan 18 with 420 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:17 - Jan 18 by Scotia

It's pretty much what I and others have already said in this thread.


Here's a balanced report from the Independent that focuses on the facts. If posting this makes me far-right, I will take the hit.

If we want to protect 11 and 12 year old girls then we should explore all angles and not discount any line of enquiry or seek to influence any investigation, so any inquiry should have statutory powers to protect the innocent and identify the guilty.

There is something disturbing about those who don't want to use the full force of the law to protect 11 year old innocents.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/six-things-you-must-know-about-how-the-groo
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:10 - Jan 18 with 364 viewsGwyn737

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:29 - Jan 18 by JACKMANANDBOY

Here's a balanced report from the Independent that focuses on the facts. If posting this makes me far-right, I will take the hit.

If we want to protect 11 and 12 year old girls then we should explore all angles and not discount any line of enquiry or seek to influence any investigation, so any inquiry should have statutory powers to protect the innocent and identify the guilty.

There is something disturbing about those who don't want to use the full force of the law to protect 11 year old innocents.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/six-things-you-must-know-about-how-the-groo
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That article is excellent and covers so many bases.

1. That there is a concern over how racial sensitivity affected the handling of cases.
2. That cases range much wider than Asian grooming gangs
3. The 2022 national inquiry made 20 recommendations. 19 of which were accepted by the government yet precisely NONE were enacted.

I think most of us would accept these as read, so why do we need a national inquiry?

I’d think the fastest action would be to get on with the recommendations, meanwhile ensuring that institutions have clear guidance to not use ethnicity to guide decision making.
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:31 - Jan 18 with 355 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:10 - Jan 18 by Gwyn737

That article is excellent and covers so many bases.

1. That there is a concern over how racial sensitivity affected the handling of cases.
2. That cases range much wider than Asian grooming gangs
3. The 2022 national inquiry made 20 recommendations. 19 of which were accepted by the government yet precisely NONE were enacted.

I think most of us would accept these as read, so why do we need a national inquiry?

I’d think the fastest action would be to get on with the recommendations, meanwhile ensuring that institutions have clear guidance to not use ethnicity to guide decision making.


National inquiries have a statutory element, you can't refuse to attend for example, local enquiries do not have those powers. No one in authority has been held to account, although it is accepted that those in authority failed to protect vulnerable children. So why not have statutory powers?

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:45 - Jan 18 with 344 viewsGwyn737

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:31 - Jan 18 by JACKMANANDBOY

National inquiries have a statutory element, you can't refuse to attend for example, local enquiries do not have those powers. No one in authority has been held to account, although it is accepted that those in authority failed to protect vulnerable children. So why not have statutory powers?


Because there’s a vast amount of changes that could be done immediately without waiting 5 years to find out things we already know.
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:51 - Jan 18 with 336 viewsLuther27

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:45 - Jan 18 by Gwyn737

Because there’s a vast amount of changes that could be done immediately without waiting 5 years to find out things we already know.


Don’t see why we can’t implement other enquiry recommendations whilst carrying out a national enquiry.
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:59 - Jan 18 with 330 viewsDr_Winston

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:51 - Jan 18 by Luther27

Don’t see why we can’t implement other enquiry recommendations whilst carrying out a national enquiry.


We can, but claiming we can't is one of the excuses Labour are using to try and avoid one.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 13:03 - Jan 18 with 323 viewsGwyn737

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:51 - Jan 18 by Luther27

Don’t see why we can’t implement other enquiry recommendations whilst carrying out a national enquiry.


I don’t know what we would know or be able to do more in 5 years time than we could do now 🤷🏻
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 13:25 - Jan 18 with 312 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 13:03 - Jan 18 by Gwyn737

I don’t know what we would know or be able to do more in 5 years time than we could do now 🤷🏻


The duration of an inquiry depends on the scope of the inquiry, what's missing is the degree to which the innocents we're not protected by those in authority for a start and how this lack of protection came about for example.
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 17:49 - Jan 18 with 234 viewsAnotherJohn

One thing I hadn't really picked up before now is that the UK rape gang phenomenon is stirring up international interest. One might say that the obfuscation and inaction of the British authorities has given ammunition to right-wing critics of immigration elsewhere. In saying that I do not imply they are wrong in using that ammunition, but just that British political correctness did not so much win hearts and minds as push many in the opposite direction. I went on X to see what Musk was saying, and discovered that the UK gangs are a hot topic in Spain, as reflected in a recent video produced by the Vox political party. The thread at the link below illustrates the way opinion may be moving.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:45 - Jan 18 with 220 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 12:45 - Jan 18 by Gwyn737

Because there’s a vast amount of changes that could be done immediately without waiting 5 years to find out things we already know.


There no reason at all why the changes already identified can't be actioned in parallel with any new inquiry.
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