Jake Converts 19:51 - Sep 30 with 4473 views | vetchonian | Finally the CLN has been converted and Silverstein is now a shareholder.. Be interesting to see what happens from here on | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 21:19 - Sep 30 with 3935 views | jasper_T | Just Silverstein's share or the whole CLN (which was around £13m I think)? | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 21:47 - Sep 30 with 3897 views | PrettySheetyCity |
Jake Converts on 21:19 - Sep 30 by jasper_T | Just Silverstein's share or the whole CLN (which was around £13m I think)? |
It looks like the whole CLN, but the statement is confusing. I have interpreted it as them giving Jake a separate mention because he finally has become an owner. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 22:22 - Sep 30 with 3855 views | jasper_T |
Jake Converts on 21:47 - Sep 30 by PrettySheetyCity | It looks like the whole CLN, but the statement is confusing. I have interpreted it as them giving Jake a separate mention because he finally has become an owner. |
Do we know who the mystery £3m belonged to yet? | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 01:32 - Oct 1 with 3772 views | KeithHaynes | Is there a chief in the house ? | ![](/images/avatars/27565.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 02:34 - Oct 1 with 3759 views | DJack |
Jake Converts on 01:32 - Oct 1 by KeithHaynes | Is there a chief in the house ? |
Dont know about that but Andy Cole is posting as Jak365 on the other site. | ![](/images/avatars/9198.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 08:48 - Oct 1 with 3668 views | KeithHaynes |
Jake Converts on 02:34 - Oct 1 by DJack | Dont know about that but Andy Cole is posting as Jak365 on the other site. |
Oh well, shame really but there we go 😉 | ![](/images/avatars/27565.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 18:29 - Feb 20 with 2301 views | KeithHaynes |
Jake Converts on 02:34 - Oct 1 by DJack | Dont know about that but Andy Cole is posting as Jak365 on the other site. |
Dave Boy Green would be distraught. | ![](/images/avatars/27565.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 18:34 - Feb 20 with 2293 views | BillyChong | Silverstein hasn’t been seen or heard from in a while | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) | Login to get fewer ads
Jake Converts on 18:46 - Feb 20 with 2255 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Jake Converts on 18:34 - Feb 20 by BillyChong | Silverstein hasn’t been seen or heard from in a while |
All communications must now go through Mr Coleman. He is the voice of the LLP. | ![](/images/avatars/27402.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 19:11 - Feb 20 with 2228 views | theloneranger |
Jake Converts on 02:34 - Oct 1 by DJack | Dont know about that but Andy Cole is posting as Jak365 on the other site. |
I'd check out "Newquay" as well!! | ![](/images/avatars/21051.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 19:36 - Feb 20 with 2204 views | QJumpingJack | To date Coleman's communication has been very disappointing. He should take lessons off the great Trevor Birch. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 20:33 - Feb 20 with 2129 views | KeithHaynes |
Jake Converts on 19:36 - Feb 20 by QJumpingJack | To date Coleman's communication has been very disappointing. He should take lessons off the great Trevor Birch. |
What if you don’t drink 😂 | ![](/images/avatars/27565.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 20:38 - Feb 20 with 2107 views | Whiterockin |
Jake Converts on 20:33 - Feb 20 by KeithHaynes | What if you don’t drink 😂 |
I remember Birch in the Riverside chatting with supporters pre match. In fairness he made an effort. | ![](/images/avatars/9155.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 14:34 - Feb 21 with 1867 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Jake Converts on 20:38 - Feb 20 by Whiterockin | I remember Birch in the Riverside chatting with supporters pre match. In fairness he made an effort. |
Birch handed the club full stock and barrel to the services of an organisation he knew nothing about and presumably did not research. Namely 'Black Lives Matter'. Their policies were related to US inner city issues not the UK. BLM supported communal living (women and children) and defunding the police. There is the infamous photo of the whole squad kneeling in homage in front of a BLM logo. He then allowed his employers to do various gestures and salutes at the workplace at their own convenience while wearing the club shirt. Raised fists for example. The club was supporting something . It was just not clear what it was. A huge error of judgement. It is all about perception. Mr Gude is reportedly an expert in communications. No sign of it so far. [Post edited 21 Feb 14:38]
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Jake Converts on 16:51 - Feb 21 with 1790 views | QJumpingJack |
Jake Converts on 14:34 - Feb 21 by ReslovenSwan1 | Birch handed the club full stock and barrel to the services of an organisation he knew nothing about and presumably did not research. Namely 'Black Lives Matter'. Their policies were related to US inner city issues not the UK. BLM supported communal living (women and children) and defunding the police. There is the infamous photo of the whole squad kneeling in homage in front of a BLM logo. He then allowed his employers to do various gestures and salutes at the workplace at their own convenience while wearing the club shirt. Raised fists for example. The club was supporting something . It was just not clear what it was. A huge error of judgement. It is all about perception. Mr Gude is reportedly an expert in communications. No sign of it so far. [Post edited 21 Feb 14:38]
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can you back up your claims/allegations in relation to those two paragraphs? | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 16:57 - Feb 21 with 1779 views | QJumpingJack |
Jake Converts on 14:34 - Feb 21 by ReslovenSwan1 | Birch handed the club full stock and barrel to the services of an organisation he knew nothing about and presumably did not research. Namely 'Black Lives Matter'. Their policies were related to US inner city issues not the UK. BLM supported communal living (women and children) and defunding the police. There is the infamous photo of the whole squad kneeling in homage in front of a BLM logo. He then allowed his employers to do various gestures and salutes at the workplace at their own convenience while wearing the club shirt. Raised fists for example. The club was supporting something . It was just not clear what it was. A huge error of judgement. It is all about perception. Mr Gude is reportedly an expert in communications. No sign of it so far. [Post edited 21 Feb 14:38]
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and has Gude spoken officially since he joined in Summer 2023? | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 20:07 - Feb 21 with 1714 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Jake Converts on 16:51 - Feb 21 by QJumpingJack | can you back up your claims/allegations in relation to those two paragraphs? |
I read the webpage and saw the photograph June 2020. I recall the club giving the players the decision whether to support the movement or not. I believed the players are representing the club and the city in a team and it was not a decision for individuals . One player did a fist salute. It could have represented "black power or "socialist principles". One would need to ask the player what it signified. Birch was at Swansea 18 March 2019 to 1 September 2020. The FA finally took charge later in 2021 and ditched BLM and reinvested the "knee" significance. [Post edited 21 Feb 20:21]
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Jake Converts on 20:21 - Feb 21 with 1695 views | Whiterockin |
Jake Converts on 14:34 - Feb 21 by ReslovenSwan1 | Birch handed the club full stock and barrel to the services of an organisation he knew nothing about and presumably did not research. Namely 'Black Lives Matter'. Their policies were related to US inner city issues not the UK. BLM supported communal living (women and children) and defunding the police. There is the infamous photo of the whole squad kneeling in homage in front of a BLM logo. He then allowed his employers to do various gestures and salutes at the workplace at their own convenience while wearing the club shirt. Raised fists for example. The club was supporting something . It was just not clear what it was. A huge error of judgement. It is all about perception. Mr Gude is reportedly an expert in communications. No sign of it so far. [Post edited 21 Feb 14:38]
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Personally I have no problem with Birch discussing the point with the players and backing them. Good management in my opinion. | ![](/images/avatars/9155.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 20:23 - Feb 21 with 1678 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Jake Converts on 16:57 - Feb 21 by QJumpingJack | and has Gude spoken officially since he joined in Summer 2023? |
I think the club should pay me £2000 pcm retainer to advise them. I am available. i've got some great ideas. | ![](/images/avatars/27402.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 20:35 - Feb 21 with 1669 views | Whiterockin |
Jake Converts on 20:23 - Feb 21 by ReslovenSwan1 | I think the club should pay me £2000 pcm retainer to advise them. I am available. i've got some great ideas. |
Delusions of grandeur, your opinions you post as fact are plain ridiculous. | ![](/images/avatars/9155.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 20:49 - Feb 21 with 1631 views | STID2017 |
Jake Converts on 20:35 - Feb 21 by Whiterockin | Delusions of grandeur, your opinions you post as fact are plain ridiculous. |
I should have added delusional to my comment on him on the Levian thread | ![](/images/avatars/21549.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 21:50 - Feb 21 with 1580 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Jake Converts on 20:49 - Feb 21 by STID2017 | I should have added delusional to my comment on him on the Levian thread |
I back the club ownership group. This makes sense to me but no you. Fans at this club are privileged as they were given the chance to be owners with a 20% holding. The people they hated turned them into millionaire club. £20m. They were the spoilt brat of a billionaire who did not want to cash in and run the club. He wanted to a rock and roll star. The Swansea fans did not make the most of it and became consumers not creators. The high water mark of fan's ownership is Bayern Munchen. They answer to no one. The sky was the limit. The SCST under Welsh fans ownership have no imagination and were actually cowardly. They declined to take the winning penalty and sell their shares. No one can explain why. The club lost momentum and the trajectory turned. The fans blame the owners who left the club pretty much unchanged. To me the US people have managed a "soft landing". The club is still a viable force with potential. The club needs more stars like young Parker. The last batch of player Cooper Cullen and Cabango look like ordinary joes no better than championship players. Congreve Lloyd and Cotterill probably no better. The Trust ambition seemed to be to be the big shots of a lower league team. They started with 20% and if the legal case had thrown out the US shareholders they could have been 80% shareholders and led Swansea to the National league and done a "reverse Wrexham". Their written objective was to increase their holding. After flunking the penalty kick they are now committed to shrinkage as they have no way of making money. Dilution, inflation, legal fees and falling membership. | ![](/images/avatars/27402.gif) |
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Jake Converts on 21:57 - Feb 21 with 1570 views | Whiterockin |
Jake Converts on 21:50 - Feb 21 by ReslovenSwan1 | I back the club ownership group. This makes sense to me but no you. Fans at this club are privileged as they were given the chance to be owners with a 20% holding. The people they hated turned them into millionaire club. £20m. They were the spoilt brat of a billionaire who did not want to cash in and run the club. He wanted to a rock and roll star. The Swansea fans did not make the most of it and became consumers not creators. The high water mark of fan's ownership is Bayern Munchen. They answer to no one. The sky was the limit. The SCST under Welsh fans ownership have no imagination and were actually cowardly. They declined to take the winning penalty and sell their shares. No one can explain why. The club lost momentum and the trajectory turned. The fans blame the owners who left the club pretty much unchanged. To me the US people have managed a "soft landing". The club is still a viable force with potential. The club needs more stars like young Parker. The last batch of player Cooper Cullen and Cabango look like ordinary joes no better than championship players. Congreve Lloyd and Cotterill probably no better. The Trust ambition seemed to be to be the big shots of a lower league team. They started with 20% and if the legal case had thrown out the US shareholders they could have been 80% shareholders and led Swansea to the National league and done a "reverse Wrexham". Their written objective was to increase their holding. After flunking the penalty kick they are now committed to shrinkage as they have no way of making money. Dilution, inflation, legal fees and falling membership. |
The LLC investment has dropped in value by about 40%. So the trust are not the only ones to lose value. | ![](/images/avatars/9155.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 17:13 - Feb 22 with 1392 views | SullutaCreturned |
Jake Converts on 21:50 - Feb 21 by ReslovenSwan1 | I back the club ownership group. This makes sense to me but no you. Fans at this club are privileged as they were given the chance to be owners with a 20% holding. The people they hated turned them into millionaire club. £20m. They were the spoilt brat of a billionaire who did not want to cash in and run the club. He wanted to a rock and roll star. The Swansea fans did not make the most of it and became consumers not creators. The high water mark of fan's ownership is Bayern Munchen. They answer to no one. The sky was the limit. The SCST under Welsh fans ownership have no imagination and were actually cowardly. They declined to take the winning penalty and sell their shares. No one can explain why. The club lost momentum and the trajectory turned. The fans blame the owners who left the club pretty much unchanged. To me the US people have managed a "soft landing". The club is still a viable force with potential. The club needs more stars like young Parker. The last batch of player Cooper Cullen and Cabango look like ordinary joes no better than championship players. Congreve Lloyd and Cotterill probably no better. The Trust ambition seemed to be to be the big shots of a lower league team. They started with 20% and if the legal case had thrown out the US shareholders they could have been 80% shareholders and led Swansea to the National league and done a "reverse Wrexham". Their written objective was to increase their holding. After flunking the penalty kick they are now committed to shrinkage as they have no way of making money. Dilution, inflation, legal fees and falling membership. |
More of this nonsense, even a scratched record would have worn out by now. Once more for the...person...the SCST didn't refuse to sell, they were kept out of the deal. Now Bayern Munchen, it helps greatly that they are a big club with an average attendance of over 75k. Our sky limit never went that high, not in another 5 lifetimes. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Jake Converts on 17:19 - Feb 22 with 1374 views | QJumpingJack |
Jake Converts on 21:50 - Feb 21 by ReslovenSwan1 | I back the club ownership group. This makes sense to me but no you. Fans at this club are privileged as they were given the chance to be owners with a 20% holding. The people they hated turned them into millionaire club. £20m. They were the spoilt brat of a billionaire who did not want to cash in and run the club. He wanted to a rock and roll star. The Swansea fans did not make the most of it and became consumers not creators. The high water mark of fan's ownership is Bayern Munchen. They answer to no one. The sky was the limit. The SCST under Welsh fans ownership have no imagination and were actually cowardly. They declined to take the winning penalty and sell their shares. No one can explain why. The club lost momentum and the trajectory turned. The fans blame the owners who left the club pretty much unchanged. To me the US people have managed a "soft landing". The club is still a viable force with potential. The club needs more stars like young Parker. The last batch of player Cooper Cullen and Cabango look like ordinary joes no better than championship players. Congreve Lloyd and Cotterill probably no better. The Trust ambition seemed to be to be the big shots of a lower league team. They started with 20% and if the legal case had thrown out the US shareholders they could have been 80% shareholders and led Swansea to the National league and done a "reverse Wrexham". Their written objective was to increase their holding. After flunking the penalty kick they are now committed to shrinkage as they have no way of making money. Dilution, inflation, legal fees and falling membership. |
why don't you make your allegations to the people who ran the Trust in 2015-2016. One of the key people runs a Swans forum. It may save you time repeating yourself. Just a thought. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
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