| RMT 18:54 - Jun 15 with 15381 views | CountyJim |
Good on you lads power to the people power to the Unions 
They asked the government to sit down and talk but oh no I expect Boris having another party |  | | |  |
| RMT on 00:10 - Jun 18 with 1319 views | jack_lord |
| RMT on 16:28 - Jun 17 by felixstowe_jack |
My experience of unions having been a union member for over 40 years is that good unions realise that business have to be viable to ensure their members have a job. They work with management to ensure productivity is high and workers are well rewarded.
Bad unions don't really care about their members are happy to sacrifice them to push their Marxist views. Just look what happened to mineworkers, ship workers, car manufacturers all these industries collapsed because the unions were not prepared to accept modern working conditions and of course many people lost their jobs while union leaders earned huge sums with benefits pensions and often a union House rent free. |
Im in complete agreement.
Our rep had conversations with me and kept pointing out that the members were the union. A very good start. He was aware of the company and its struggle during covid and how our main contracts were strangling us. He did not want to hold the company to ransom on our behalf and he recognised the company needs. Ultimately he knew the company were walking a dangerous path with their requests. Thankfully negotiation reached a very good conclusion. We did say that we would rather not take the 5% pay offer and not follow the request but it all worked out.
That is a good example of how a modern union works. The workers who don't contribute to the union benefitted but so be it. At least they are aware of what we managed to achieve without their support.
Thankfully it is not the 70's and the likes of Scargill hopefully will not get to the top again and hold industry to ransom. Bad leaders of any union are a problem but for individual members they can be a lifeline. |  |
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| RMT on 07:41 - Jun 18 with 1274 views | trampie |
Trade unions are right wing Tories, they only care about the relatively well off and not society as a whole. |  |
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| RMT on 08:29 - Jun 18 with 1252 views | felixstowe_jack |
| RMT on 07:41 - Jun 18 by trampie |
Trade unions are right wing Tories, they only care about the relatively well off and not society as a whole. |
Unions are left wing Marxist always have been. Only interested in using their members to further their anti democracy views. |  |
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| RMT on 08:31 - Jun 18 with 1252 views | GixerJack |
| RMT on 19:15 - Jun 17 by Lorax |
The 47k was given as an average wasn't it? That suggests there are people on a lot less as there are people on a lot more. |
Yes, and there are more than one union in the rail industry with bargaining rights. This thread is only about the RMT and their pending industrial action, so why include the middle and high earners who are probably in other unions?
Might I suggest that it’s intentional because reality would not have caused such an outcry in public opinion? |  | | |
| RMT on 08:35 - Jun 18 with 1251 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| RMT on 19:15 - Jun 17 by Lorax |
The 47k was given as an average wasn't it? That suggests there are people on a lot less as there are people on a lot more. |
On a similar basis the figure for the NHS is around £35K, again there will be high and low earners. The rail industry is comparably better paid. |  |
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| RMT on 09:15 - Jun 18 with 1233 views | GixerJack |
| RMT on 08:35 - Jun 18 by JACKMANANDBOY |
On a similar basis the figure for the NHS is around £35K, again there will be high and low earners. The rail industry is comparably better paid. |
Again this is not an industry dispute it’s an RMT one | | | |
| RMT on 09:30 - Jun 18 with 1222 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| RMT on 09:15 - Jun 18 by GixerJack |
Again this is not an industry dispute it’s an RMT one |
Can't find an official figure for the average RMT worker. | |
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| RMT on 09:32 - Jun 18 with 1215 views | trampie |
| RMT on 08:29 - Jun 18 by felixstowe_jack |
Unions are left wing Marxist always have been. Only interested in using their members to further their anti democracy views. |
Rubbish unions only tend to support members who are usually people in quite well paid employment, people that work in the gig economy are more often than not not in unions, it's teachers, steelworkers and railway workers that tend to be in unions not hairdressers, cleaners and corner shop workers.
The trade unions support the Labour party and the Labour party are not the party of the poor, people on benefits etc as they recently admitted, Labour are just like the Conservatives, they are all Tories. [Post edited 18 Jun 2022 14:06]
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| RMT on 09:46 - Jun 18 with 1204 views | onehunglow |
| RMT on 09:32 - Jun 18 by trampie |
Rubbish unions only tend to support members who are usually people in quite well paid employment, people that work in the gig economy are more often than not not in unions, it's teachers, steelworkers and railway workers that tend to be in unions not hairdressers, cleaners and corner shop workers.
The trade unions support the Labour party and the Labour party are not the party of the poor, people on benefits etc as they recently admitted, Labour are just like the Conservatives, they are all Tories. [Post edited 18 Jun 2022 14:06]
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You make some fair points there Tramps.
Jeez,I feel light headed | |
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| RMT on 10:24 - Jun 18 with 1192 views | krunchykarrot |
| RMT on 09:32 - Jun 18 by trampie |
Rubbish unions only tend to support members who are usually people in quite well paid employment, people that work in the gig economy are more often than not not in unions, it's teachers, steelworkers and railway workers that tend to be in unions not hairdressers, cleaners and corner shop workers.
The trade unions support the Labour party and the Labour party are not the party of the poor, people on benefits etc as they recently admitted, Labour are just like the Conservatives, they are all Tories. [Post edited 18 Jun 2022 14:06]
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I just watched an interview where the Union Leader stated that the managers of the big companies like BT Rail etc. were being paid high salaries and the gap between lowest paid in said company was not fair and equitable. He also stated that there are more Billionaires than ever and we are "awash with money" I wonder if they have looked at the leaders of the Unions disparity from boss to minion. I read an article the other day about Mcclusky and a hotel.
The definition of a meaningful strike is Public Backing? |  | | |
| RMT on 12:04 - Jun 18 with 1164 views | felixstowe_jack |
An NHS boss says next weeks rail strikes will kill people because doctors and nurses won't get to work and patients who have waited months for urgent appointments won't be able to get to them.
No doubt the union bosses will say sorry for any inconvenience caused. Perhaps the NHS should put any striking railway bosses at the end of their waiting lists.
Yet labour still fail to condom the strikes. | |
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| RMT on 13:05 - Jun 18 with 1143 views | Gwyn737 |
| RMT on 12:04 - Jun 18 by felixstowe_jack |
An NHS boss says next weeks rail strikes will kill people because doctors and nurses won't get to work and patients who have waited months for urgent appointments won't be able to get to them.
No doubt the union bosses will say sorry for any inconvenience caused. Perhaps the NHS should put any striking railway bosses at the end of their waiting lists.
Yet labour still fail to condom the strikes. |
Wes Streeting has.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Wes%20streeting&src=typed_query
As an aside I really like this fella. Much more my type of leader than Starmer. | | | |
| RMT on 13:50 - Jun 18 with 1130 views | CountyJim |
| RMT on 12:04 - Jun 18 by felixstowe_jack |
An NHS boss says next weeks rail strikes will kill people because doctors and nurses won't get to work and patients who have waited months for urgent appointments won't be able to get to them.
No doubt the union bosses will say sorry for any inconvenience caused. Perhaps the NHS should put any striking railway bosses at the end of their waiting lists.
Yet labour still fail to condom the strikes. |
They have been given enough notice to make other arrangements
How about walking car buses taxis | | | |
| RMT on 15:39 - Jun 18 with 1102 views | jack_lord |
| RMT on 12:04 - Jun 18 by felixstowe_jack |
An NHS boss says next weeks rail strikes will kill people because doctors and nurses won't get to work and patients who have waited months for urgent appointments won't be able to get to them.
No doubt the union bosses will say sorry for any inconvenience caused. Perhaps the NHS should put any striking railway bosses at the end of their waiting lists.
Yet labour still fail to condom the strikes. |
Another day another Labour bashing moment.
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| RMT on 15:41 - Jun 18 with 1100 views | Lorax |
| RMT on 13:50 - Jun 18 by CountyJim |
They have been given enough notice to make other arrangements
How about walking car buses taxis |
There is some obvious hyperbole on both sides. | | | |
| RMT on 16:17 - Jun 18 with 1087 views | Gwyn737 |
Looks like the RMT could be just the start…
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| RMT on 16:33 - Jun 18 with 1077 views | trampie |
Teaching unions are unfortunately more than capable of going on strike and denying children an education, it's akin to blackmail but they will and have carried out their threats of denying children education to get more money in the past. | |
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| RMT on 16:33 - Jun 18 with 1080 views | felixstowe_jack |
| RMT on 15:39 - Jun 18 by jack_lord |
Another day another Labour bashing moment.
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Ungrateful unions nothing to do with labour bashing. Starmer does not need my help with that.
Are you still following how the sheep vote in Wales. | |
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| RMT on 16:51 - Jun 18 with 1060 views | Lorax |
| RMT on 16:33 - Jun 18 by felixstowe_jack |
Ungrateful unions nothing to do with labour bashing. Starmer does not need my help with that.
Are you still following how the sheep vote in Wales. |
On a linked note, the Unions shouldn't fund Labour anymore, all parties should get central funding, a fixed budget with no donations from individuals who then hold sway over policy. All parties should get funding based on the numbers they have standing, X amount per candidate.
Maybe that would make things fairer and it would stop any Labour bashing everytime strike action was mentioned? | | | |
| RMT on 17:06 - Jun 18 with 1037 views | onehunglow |
| RMT on 15:39 - Jun 18 by jack_lord |
Another day another Labour bashing moment.
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Ban the Tory party then and get rid of the posh/wealthy/privileged scum that no Welshman should vote for ?
Sounds and looks like a fascist/communist one part state is popular in Wales.
People are alowed to vote as they do and slag off whom they like.That means Felix can point to the hypocrisy of Labour and you can wax lyrical on the sheer arrogant inept band of clowns currently in charge of our country.
And before you have a go at me;the biggest scumbag of all is Cameron for instoigating that ludicrous brexit vote which was party time for xenophobes and anti Johnny Foreigners everywhere.
Join me in the Cynical Party.
Vote OHL | |
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| RMT on 17:17 - Jun 18 with 1033 views | Gwyn737 |
| RMT on 16:33 - Jun 18 by trampie |
Teaching unions are unfortunately more than capable of going on strike and denying children an education, it's akin to blackmail but they will and have carried out their threats of denying children education to get more money in the past. |
Indeed. That’s the way strikes work.
I’m surprised it’s the NASUWT who’ve come out first - they’re usually the most moderate of the teaching unions.
No doubt the NEU (former NUT) will come out next. Now they really are a pain in the neck.
If they do it’ll be first proper national strike for 35 years. I suppose it’s to be expected, we’ve been hearing about the possibility of civil unrest in the autumn with the financial squeeze. This is just the white collar reaction 🤷ðŸ»â€â™‚ï¸ | | | |
| RMT on 17:26 - Jun 18 with 1023 views | 73__73 |
| RMT on 17:17 - Jun 18 by Gwyn737 |
Indeed. That’s the way strikes work.
I’m surprised it’s the NASUWT who’ve come out first - they’re usually the most moderate of the teaching unions.
No doubt the NEU (former NUT) will come out next. Now they really are a pain in the neck.
If they do it’ll be first proper national strike for 35 years. I suppose it’s to be expected, we’ve been hearing about the possibility of civil unrest in the autumn with the financial squeeze. This is just the white collar reaction 🤷ðŸ»â€â™‚ï¸ |
If teachers ain’t happy with their pay, they should go and find another job.
Plenty of scaffolding jobs available £1,000 plus a week. [Post edited 18 Jun 2022 17:28]
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| RMT on 17:27 - Jun 18 with 1023 views | jack_lord |
| RMT on 16:33 - Jun 18 by felixstowe_jack |
Ungrateful unions nothing to do with labour bashing. Starmer does not need my help with that.
Are you still following how the sheep vote in Wales. |
Just so you know tory boy people have been continually voting for the same party since 1880 in Horsham. Obviously it wasn't the Labour party because it didn't exist then. Is that how the sheep vote started or is it ok to vote for the same party for generations as long as it is the tories you vote for? | |
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| RMT on 17:31 - Jun 18 with 1021 views | 73__73 |
| RMT on 17:27 - Jun 18 by jack_lord |
Just so you know tory boy people have been continually voting for the same party since 1880 in Horsham. Obviously it wasn't the Labour party because it didn't exist then. Is that how the sheep vote started or is it ok to vote for the same party for generations as long as it is the tories you vote for? |
It’s a pity the Labour Party exists at all to be honest | |
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| RMT on 17:46 - Jun 18 with 1014 views | jack_lord |
| RMT on 17:31 - Jun 18 by 73__73 |
It’s a pity the Labour Party exists at all to be honest |
yes, because no one wants a minimum wage | |
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