| The Cisse jigsaw piece 09:32 - Apr 12 with 2931 views | simmo |
Just wondered people's thoughts on the imminent return of Cisse.... Nobody is doubting his ability and he is the type of striker we have been crying out for at QPR for years but how do we go about bringing him back?
Our performances and matches recenty have come from 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 formations with Zamora up top and support from midfield, Taarabt has played very well with room to drift while a 3 of Barton, Samba and Derry/Buzz have held the shape in the middle. A return for Djibril would potentially require some shoe horning and a return to the 442 Hughes generally favours. This means dropping one of Derry/Buzz and putting Barton in the middle or Mackie as before, neither of which I think deserves to be dropped.
I think from what we have seen from him before Sland red and the great moments of link up between him Zamora and sometimes Tarbs too we should get him back in the team just think it won't be as simple as slotting him straight back in. Suppose this is one of those 'nice problems' managers have..... |  |
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:19 - Apr 12 with 719 views | Jamie |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 10:44 - Apr 12 by Northernr |
Mackie looked like he was injured last night anyway so that might make the decision for us but I don't see how you can leave a player that good out of the team. |
Mackie got a knee in the arse, he'll be fine.
Class against Arsenal & Swansea at 4-5-1, fcking useless against Bolton & Sunderland at 4-4-2 and with Cisse... |  | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:22 - Apr 12 with 714 views | jonno |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 10:44 - Apr 12 by Northernr |
Mackie looked like he was injured last night anyway so that might make the decision for us but I don't see how you can leave a player that good out of the team. |
We've left Taarabt out before now to make the team formation work and he's a better player than Cisse IMHO. The fact is that we don't have the players to play 442 and accommodate Cisse, plus he's a loose cannon that is liable to see us down to ten men. Now is NOT the time to experiment and take chances, we have a system that is working and we need to stick to that instead of changing the team and formation yet again. Use him as a sub against tiring defenders, or to replace an injured player in the current set up, but don't change the system to accommodate him. It won't work. |  | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:27 - Apr 12 with 704 views | Jamie |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:22 - Apr 12 by jonno |
We've left Taarabt out before now to make the team formation work and he's a better player than Cisse IMHO. The fact is that we don't have the players to play 442 and accommodate Cisse, plus he's a loose cannon that is liable to see us down to ten men. Now is NOT the time to experiment and take chances, we have a system that is working and we need to stick to that instead of changing the team and formation yet again. Use him as a sub against tiring defenders, or to replace an injured player in the current set up, but don't change the system to accommodate him. It won't work. |
Exactly.
If we get any sort of result against WBA, there is absolutely no justification for changing the formation or line-up.
If we get annihilated against WBA then fair enough. | | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:27 - Apr 12 with 703 views | HollowayRanger |
keep him as sub
could change a game totally coming on last 20 mins against tired defences if we need a goal with his skill and pace and less likey to get another red in just 20 mins
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:35 - Apr 12 with 694 views | ingeminate |
He is our best striker and his link up play with Zamorra has shown flashes of genius.
If it comes to picking our best team I think he he definitely slots in to it and we re-jig the system. Arsenal/Swansea played in a way that really suits our central three midfielders, I'm not convinced that will be the case with the teams coming up.
There is though an argument to start him on the bench purely because he does have this habit of being a crazy man and we really cannot afford to have him getting sent off half way through a match. Opposition players will target him and while someon told me a stat yesterday that he'd barely been sent off his whole career when he dons the hoops he is too nutty for my liking. |  |
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:54 - Apr 12 with 674 views | Northernr |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:06 - Apr 12 by adhoc_qpr |
You don't think his constant brain farts and red cards are a reason then?
We really have almost zero margin for error if we want to stay up now, do we trust Cisse to not do his Balotelli impression again? |
No frankly. He's the best player we've got ergo he should be in the team. |  | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 12:14 - Apr 12 with 661 views | Ferdy |
If we play well and get something at WBA I would start him on the bench. Or maybe out wide.
If we lose and/or play poorly I would start him against Spurs. |  | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 13:00 - Apr 12 with 637 views | hoops_legend |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:17 - Apr 12 by QPunkR |
It's a tough one and a question I posed to my mates at 2-0 up last night - who the hell do you drop from that team to bring him in?? Most potent goal threat at the Club but every single player (with the exception of Onuoha, for me) played out of their socks. Again.
And that's not even taking into consideration the fact that we've looked so much better in this formation.. |
Not sure how we can leave him out... Just tell him to make no challenges! I think he should start.. |  |
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 13:21 - Apr 12 with 619 views | QPRski |
If we have a good result at WBA (and there are no injuries) then I would not change the team and would use him as a sub.
But, should we fail to perform (and I sincerely hope we don't) then MH could change the set up and play 4-4-2. |  | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 13:26 - Apr 12 with 615 views | Flex |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 13:00 - Apr 12 by hoops_legend |
Not sure how we can leave him out... Just tell him to make no challenges! I think he should start.. |
Play players in form and in their natural position. I think we have to play 4-5-1/4-3-3 against Spurs, they break with such pace so we need a strong work ethic in midfield to close down Modric and VDV. Tawio and Nedlum need to have good games, I just can't see where Cisse fits in with current performances.
Adel's work rate has been impressive, but play a 4-4-2 and if he goes wondering, we'll get overrun in midfield. Cisse to start on the bench, and perhaps return against Stoke. | | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 13:28 - Apr 12 with 609 views | Lewes_r |
never change a winning team to accommodate a "star" |  |
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 13:35 - Apr 12 with 598 views | ellersliehoop |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 10:07 - Apr 12 by jonno |
To have Cisse up front we would need to play 442, and when we play 442 we get overrun in midfield, the better teams will take us apart there. |
Absolutely spot on.......
Against Liverpool we played 442 and were carved open at will especially first minutes............they could have been out of sight
The only thing I would say is that on bigger pitches Zamora is likely to become isolated | | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 13:56 - Apr 12 with 589 views | Bluce_Ree |
In the 'winnable' games (Stoke/WBA) no way should he start. He's still banned for WBA anyway right?
Spurs. Impact sub.
Chelsea. Not sure, maybe start on that one.
City. Definitely start. We're not likely to win that and so have to take the risk and play our best guy.
The easier games need 11 players but don't need a Cisse.
City and Chelsea require the risk. |  |
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 14:01 - Apr 12 with 580 views | daveB |
it's like the old Lampard and Gerrard for England debate.
You pick the best team not individuals. Cisse is quality but the current tactics are working superbly so stick with them. We were utter crap playing 4-4-2 for months, now we've gone back to the Warnock 4-2-3-1 we look a team again.
I'd use Cisse as a very good impact sub against Spurs, keep it tight then send on nutty bollocks to run at them for 20 minutes. |  | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 14:03 - Apr 12 with 576 views | kingo |
Agree with Northern, Cisse is class and our only real speed outlet. For games against Spuds and CFC he will be our main chance of scoring. |  |
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 14:36 - Apr 12 with 560 views | ellersliehoop |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 14:03 - Apr 12 by kingo |
Agree with Northern, Cisse is class and our only real speed outlet. For games against Spuds and CFC he will be our main chance of scoring. |
At home to Spurs less so due to the smaller pitch.........would have liked to see him playing this Saturday | | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 14:44 - Apr 12 with 553 views | westolian |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 13:28 - Apr 12 by Lewes_r |
never change a winning team to accommodate a "star" |
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 14:45 - Apr 12 with 553 views | simmo |
This has sparked exactly the kind of answers i have thrown around in my own head with still no clear decision. Glad it's Hughes that has to decide but either way he is open for criticism.... Ultimately he will play 442 when he has the staff as he always has done, we changed the system on necessity and I think he will change it back after West Brom. I think it will leave us open in midfield and it's tough to drop someone but we can also change up formations during a game if things are going one way or another. You have to play your best/in form players so I would start Cisse in place of Buzz/Derry and move Barton central with Sam Basten. I just don't see where Adel fits in to 442 as in that formation he's the liability....
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 15:04 - Apr 12 with 535 views | Joolzz |
Dont think we can play 4 4 2 against spurs....bale,lennon,modric,van de fart would be too good for us...playing same mid as last night,having cisse up front alone would be an option.Spurs cb's would struggle more against him than zamora.Whatever our team is have alot of faith in hughes ablilty to tactically get it rite |  | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 15:08 - Apr 12 with 525 views | Aunt_Nelly |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:54 - Apr 12 by Northernr |
No frankly. He's the best player we've got ergo he should be in the team. |
Is the right answer. |  | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 15:10 - Apr 12 with 525 views | andygg |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:27 - Apr 12 by HollowayRanger |
keep him as sub
could change a game totally coming on last 20 mins against tired defences if we need a goal with his skill and pace and less likey to get another red in just 20 mins
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Spot on, what I think too. |  | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 15:16 - Apr 12 with 516 views | THEBUSH |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 11:01 - Apr 12 by HollowayRanger |
what like liverpool and arsenal?
the guy has to earn his place and more importantly needs to understand that we need to play 11 a side for 90 mins |
With Cisse playing we might have scored more goals against Liverpool and Arsenal !!
Just because he didn't play don't mean we'd have lost if he did play.
Players getting sent off happens, Cisse ain't the only one been sent off for us !! |  | | |
| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 16:25 - Apr 12 with 493 views | Bedford_R |
Cisse must start. He is our main striker and he is always a threat to the opposition. |  |
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 16:53 - Apr 12 with 470 views | simmo |
Thats decided then. Leav him on the bench but start him in a 442 formation with 1 up front.
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| The Cisse jigsaw piece on 17:14 - Apr 12 with 457 views | stansleftfoot |
Hughes has found his best starting eleven by accident and circumstance. A test of his managerial strength will be to admit this and continue.
The one variable that i'm only guessing at is Bobby Zamora's fitness. His stamina and overall shape are taking a real battering in this new shape. And he may not have been in great shape anyway.
So i think Cisse can play the lone striker role and i would presume that other than Stoke all our remaining opposition play with passing mobile midfields we will need enough manpower to take that on.
So i would guess Zamora and Cisse to play as lone strikers and us to keep the same shape in four of the five games and a faint possibility of 442 against Stoke.
We also have Helguson who may even get called up sooner than any of us could guessed.
Iam very aware of possible fitness issues with BZ and what a job he's done in the last four games. | | | |
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