| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:00 - Apr 25 with 2514 views | Boundy |
Good news ,hopefully with a pay rise ? |  |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:15 - Apr 25 with 2468 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:00 - Apr 25 by Boundy |
Good news ,hopefully with a pay rise ? |
Extension of an existing deal suggests no rise. It is a negotiating position for clubs to encourage players not to run down their deals. Wood for example is paid less for next season but can sign a three year deal if he wants to.
I expect Cullen to sign a brand new deal to supercede this deal if he can agree a deal. Wood is in the same place. |  |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:26 - Apr 25 with 2457 views | Whiterockin |
He will be gone in the summer if there is no new contract. Its a good job a new offer is being discussed at least. |  | | |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:36 - Apr 25 with 2433 views | Dr_Winston |
Scored fewer goals this season than Yates, who everyone hates.
The only reason extending Cullen's contract makes sense is to secure a better price for him. We really can't go into next season with him as a serious first team option. |  |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:46 - Apr 25 with 2399 views | Whiterockin |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:36 - Apr 25 by Dr_Winston |
Scored fewer goals this season than Yates, who everyone hates.
The only reason extending Cullen's contract makes sense is to secure a better price for him. We really can't go into next season with him as a serious first team option. |
We didn't pay £2.5M for Cullen or are we paying him £12.5K a week 5X Cullens wage, IMO those are the only differences between him and Yates. | | | |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:55 - Apr 25 with 2382 views | Dr_Winston |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:46 - Apr 25 by Whiterockin |
We didn't pay £2.5M for Cullen or are we paying him £12.5K a week 5X Cullens wage, IMO those are the only differences between him and Yates. |
What we paid for and are paying Yates is irrelevant to whether or not Cullen is worth keeping around.
Cullen has been indulged and been given every opportunity to improve under consecutive managers and not really done so. He's not a kid any more. If this is the future then it's probably not going to be much better than the present. | |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:56 - Apr 25 with 2382 views | onehunglow |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:26 - Apr 25 by Whiterockin |
He will be gone in the summer if there is no new contract. Its a good job a new offer is being discussed at least. |
Wish Yates would be gone | |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 14:03 - Apr 25 with 2360 views | Whiterockin |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:56 - Apr 25 by onehunglow |
Wish Yates would be gone |
So do the majority of supporters. | | | |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 14:47 - Apr 25 with 2307 views | Flashberryjack |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:36 - Apr 25 by Dr_Winston |
Scored fewer goals this season than Yates, who everyone hates.
The only reason extending Cullen's contract makes sense is to secure a better price for him. We really can't go into next season with him as a serious first team option. |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 14:50 - Apr 25 with 2295 views | JumpingJackFlash |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 13:36 - Apr 25 by Dr_Winston |
Scored fewer goals this season than Yates, who everyone hates.
The only reason extending Cullen's contract makes sense is to secure a better price for him. We really can't go into next season with him as a serious first team option. |
Nobody has actually managed more goals than Yates, he’s our joint top scorer.
That tells us something about our strike force. | | | |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 14:57 - Apr 25 with 2273 views | Dr_Winston |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 14:50 - Apr 25 by JumpingJackFlash |
Nobody has actually managed more goals than Yates, he’s our joint top scorer.
That tells us something about our strike force. |
I think it's said more about the way our season has gone. The end game of having most pace and creativity systematically stripped out over three or four years. We didn't have any kind of service from the flanks until January, and even that has been hot and cold.
I've said before that Yates' biggest problem is that the manager who signed him and got some decent early displays out of him didn't last long and his replacement is clearly not all that fussed. If Williams stays, which seems certain, then Yates has no future here.
Cullen is clearly in Williams's good books but it's not making all that much difference with him. Lots of effort, not much quality. Much like Oli Cooper, he's basically getting by on being "one of our own" at present. | |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 16:02 - Apr 25 with 2200 views | builthjack |
Likely to be a very very cheap option.
Great lad, gives 100% every time. But. |  |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 17:44 - Apr 25 with 2139 views | jack247 |
The main difference between Cullen and Yates for me is that Cullen doesn’t play like he’s given up.
I rated Yates earlier in the season, even when it wasn’t going well for him he was tenacious, chased everything and didn’t shy away from physical battles with bigger, stronger players. He’s lost that.
I really wanted to see how he got on with a less agricultural style after Duff left. Unfortunately, it hasn’t worked under Williams either.
Similar attributes and Williams will want to bring strikers in. Can’t see the need to keep both of them if I’m honest and Cullen is probably easier to move on. | | | |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 19:56 - Apr 25 with 2054 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Cullen is no more than a squad player base on his stats . 47 games 7 goals 4 assists. Not all 90 mins of course. Down from last year with two game to play.
His trajectory is flat. He has not addressed his weaknesses in my opinion. (one is taking headed chances).
He has kids coming from the under 21s looking to take his place. Kyrell Wilson and Josh Thomas looking for squad places and chances. Perhaps even Congreve.
When talking about average wages in the Championship one must also consider that most clubs playing average wages are losing money every month. | |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 20:06 - Apr 25 with 2036 views | KeithHaynes |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 19:56 - Apr 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Cullen is no more than a squad player base on his stats . 47 games 7 goals 4 assists. Not all 90 mins of course. Down from last year with two game to play.
His trajectory is flat. He has not addressed his weaknesses in my opinion. (one is taking headed chances).
He has kids coming from the under 21s looking to take his place. Kyrell Wilson and Josh Thomas looking for squad places and chances. Perhaps even Congreve.
When talking about average wages in the Championship one must also consider that most clubs playing average wages are losing money every month. |
Admittedly he isn’t the answer, but he does add some value. |  |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 10:49 - Apr 26 with 1879 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 19:56 - Apr 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Cullen is no more than a squad player base on his stats . 47 games 7 goals 4 assists. Not all 90 mins of course. Down from last year with two game to play.
His trajectory is flat. He has not addressed his weaknesses in my opinion. (one is taking headed chances).
He has kids coming from the under 21s looking to take his place. Kyrell Wilson and Josh Thomas looking for squad places and chances. Perhaps even Congreve.
When talking about average wages in the Championship one must also consider that most clubs playing average wages are losing money every month. |
That last bit really is the problem with football. Too mant clubs paying out far more than they can afford.
Most clubs in the championship shouldn't be paying out more than 3.5 - 7k per week. Even in the premier league, with their massive incomes, most clubs are losing money. It's the same across other countries.
Cullen being the lowest paid in our first team squad isn't the problem for me, the problem is all those players getting paid a lot more than they deserve. That Cullen has worked harder than a few of them says a lot, if the owners think he only deserves 3.5k then there's several others who should be facing a pay cut and lets face it, 3.5k per week is a good craic for the vast majority of people. | | | |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 11:01 - Apr 26 with 1873 views | Dr_Winston |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 10:49 - Apr 26 by SullutaCreturned |
That last bit really is the problem with football. Too mant clubs paying out far more than they can afford.
Most clubs in the championship shouldn't be paying out more than 3.5 - 7k per week. Even in the premier league, with their massive incomes, most clubs are losing money. It's the same across other countries.
Cullen being the lowest paid in our first team squad isn't the problem for me, the problem is all those players getting paid a lot more than they deserve. That Cullen has worked harder than a few of them says a lot, if the owners think he only deserves 3.5k then there's several others who should be facing a pay cut and lets face it, 3.5k per week is a good craic for the vast majority of people. |
Clubs certainly don't help themselves.
For example, no doubt Matt Grimes is on not far off £1m a year, maybe more despite there being no serious competitors for his signature the last time his contract was close to expiry. We're probably paying him twice as much as we needed to to keep him around. There will probably be several others on or around the £10k per week mark.
It's not the transfer fees that we're paying out that are the problem. It's the ongoing expense of wages. Wages are the club killer. | |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 11:18 - Apr 26 with 1854 views | union_jack |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 11:01 - Apr 26 by Dr_Winston |
Clubs certainly don't help themselves.
For example, no doubt Matt Grimes is on not far off £1m a year, maybe more despite there being no serious competitors for his signature the last time his contract was close to expiry. We're probably paying him twice as much as we needed to to keep him around. There will probably be several others on or around the £10k per week mark.
It's not the transfer fees that we're paying out that are the problem. It's the ongoing expense of wages. Wages are the club killer. |
Grimes is one of those enigmas I don’t think we’ll ever get to the bottom of. |  |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 14:49 - Apr 26 with 1775 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 11:01 - Apr 26 by Dr_Winston |
Clubs certainly don't help themselves.
For example, no doubt Matt Grimes is on not far off £1m a year, maybe more despite there being no serious competitors for his signature the last time his contract was close to expiry. We're probably paying him twice as much as we needed to to keep him around. There will probably be several others on or around the £10k per week mark.
It's not the transfer fees that we're paying out that are the problem. It's the ongoing expense of wages. Wages are the club killer. |
Swansea have an opportunity to trim costs by rejuvenation.
Allen and Walsh out Abdullai Cotterill in.
Yates / Kukhrevych sold Wilson Josh Thomas in.
Naughton out coaching maybe
Pedersen loaned and off the books. Lissah in.
Ntoe a On sold back to Netherlands replaced by Parker
All loans thanked for their efforts apart from Lowe.
Placheta replaced by Govea.
Evan Watts to replace Fisher sold if possible. | |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 15:45 - Apr 26 with 1747 views | Whiterockin |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 14:49 - Apr 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea have an opportunity to trim costs by rejuvenation.
Allen and Walsh out Abdullai Cotterill in.
Yates / Kukhrevych sold Wilson Josh Thomas in.
Naughton out coaching maybe
Pedersen loaned and off the books. Lissah in.
Ntoe a On sold back to Netherlands replaced by Parker
All loans thanked for their efforts apart from Lowe.
Placheta replaced by Govea.
Evan Watts to replace Fisher sold if possible. |
I would say Ginnelly would take Plachetas place if he doesn't stay. | | | |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 16:08 - Apr 26 with 1717 views | Dr_Winston |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 15:45 - Apr 26 by Whiterockin |
I would say Ginnelly would take Plachetas place if he doesn't stay. |
Looking forward to seeing Ginelly back. Hope the injury hasn't taken much out of him. | |
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| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 16:12 - Apr 26 with 1702 views | Whiterockin |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 16:08 - Apr 26 by Dr_Winston |
Looking forward to seeing Ginelly back. Hope the injury hasn't taken much out of him. |
He was incredibly unlucky, he really could be a star for us. Two wide players Ronald and Ginnelly would be fantastic to see if we had a decent number nine. | | | |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 16:52 - Apr 26 with 1665 views | jack247 |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 14:49 - Apr 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea have an opportunity to trim costs by rejuvenation.
Allen and Walsh out Abdullai Cotterill in.
Yates / Kukhrevych sold Wilson Josh Thomas in.
Naughton out coaching maybe
Pedersen loaned and off the books. Lissah in.
Ntoe a On sold back to Netherlands replaced by Parker
All loans thanked for their efforts apart from Lowe.
Placheta replaced by Govea.
Evan Watts to replace Fisher sold if possible. |
It’s not going to be easy to sell Yates and Kukharevych.
Sign players for £2 million and their wages are likely to reflect that. | | | |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 17:03 - Apr 26 with 1658 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 16:52 - Apr 26 by jack247 |
It’s not going to be easy to sell Yates and Kukharevych.
Sign players for £2 million and their wages are likely to reflect that. |
Besides the fact that we'll struggle to find anyone willing to pay a fee for them.
The only players we can anywhere near easily sell are those we'd want to keep. The next window will most likely see yet another downgrading of our squad. | | | |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 21:15 - Apr 26 with 1572 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Contract option taken for Liam Cullen on 17:03 - Apr 26 by SullutaCreturned |
Besides the fact that we'll struggle to find anyone willing to pay a fee for them.
The only players we can anywhere near easily sell are those we'd want to keep. The next window will most likely see yet another downgrading of our squad. |
Watson said that is what they will try to do. Where Swansea can improve is the quality of the loans I hope there will be one or two and the club find a good solid goalkeeper.
Govea, Parker, Abdullai, Cotterill and Wilson are quality and like 5 new signings. Ginnelly coming back. A centre forward of power and a goalkeeper are priorities. | |
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