| So if we did go down??? 13:13 - Apr 25 with 9910 views | TGRRRSSS |
Would you advocate Les Ferdinand as well as IH being sacked?
The reason I mention this is the credit he was getting when things started to look better but now...
Just asking the question my view is we will stay up and be better for it next season, I'd even say maintain status quo regardless, but even I am starting to get a few jitters... |  | | |  |
| So if we did go down??? on 14:29 - Apr 27 with 2244 views | simmo |
| So if we did go down??? on 14:26 - Apr 27 by R_from_afar |
I don't see TF getting much of an easy ride on here... When things are going well, he rarely if ever gets any credit. When things are going wrong, however...
TF may have made a lot of mistakes but he hasn't been making unilateral decisions for years. He's obviously still involved in the decision-making process but Reuben G plays a big role as do Les and Hoos. If Les has "done more good than bad," shouldn't Tony get some credit for that? He was involved in the process of bringing him in. He has also repaired most of the damage he (and our managers) did in the profligate years by converting the debt into shares.
Our owners have got a lot of things wrong but there has been progress. We may even one day get to the stage where the club is sustainable and won't need wealthy owners to bankroll it. Ironically, TF et al have now brought us closer to that point than we have been for years (look at the squad and the starting elevens).
Finally, before you ask, I have never met Tony and have never had any freebies off him.
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Never gets any credit? You mean besides people constantly singing his name? |  |
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| So if we did go down??? on 14:41 - Apr 27 with 2230 views | R_from_afar |
| So if we did go down??? on 14:29 - Apr 27 by simmo |
Never gets any credit? You mean besides people constantly singing his name? |
"Constantly"? I don't remember hearing it being sung at a match for some time.
How many threads, or posts, complimenting Tony have appeared on here in the last few years?
As an example, when we had that purple patch a couple of months ago, a long list of non-playing staff were credited but Tony's name was conspicuous by its absence.
And before people gets their pitchforks out, I think he has made *a lot* of mistakes, e.g. letting previous managers sign whoever they wanted. My point is that the club has finally started making some progress, for which he deserves at least some credit.
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| So if we did go down??? on 14:57 - Apr 27 with 2213 views | simmo |
| So if we did go down??? on 14:41 - Apr 27 by R_from_afar |
"Constantly"? I don't remember hearing it being sung at a match for some time.
How many threads, or posts, complimenting Tony have appeared on here in the last few years?
As an example, when we had that purple patch a couple of months ago, a long list of non-playing staff were credited but Tony's name was conspicuous by its absence.
And before people gets their pitchforks out, I think he has made *a lot* of mistakes, e.g. letting previous managers sign whoever they wanted. My point is that the club has finally started making some progress, for which he deserves at least some credit.
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I would suggest that progress and his increased detachment from the day to day at QPR are not mutually exclusive. Apart from his occasional chiming in of unhelpful statements on social media and his convenient appearance in front of the away fans at the end of the Fulham game, he's had less involvement and off the pitch at least we're finally starting to see some good stuff.
I agree he might deserve some credit for doing that (at last), but actions speak louder than words and I would rather see him shut his hole, put his phone down and let those positive changes take effect longer term before putting out yet ANOTHER article talking about finally learning his lesson AGAIN. A spade in the ground for the training ground will help too - something tangible for his investment and promises. | |
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| So if we did go down??? on 15:07 - Apr 27 with 2199 views | JamesB1979 |
| So if we did go down??? on 14:41 - Apr 27 by R_from_afar |
"Constantly"? I don't remember hearing it being sung at a match for some time.
How many threads, or posts, complimenting Tony have appeared on here in the last few years?
As an example, when we had that purple patch a couple of months ago, a long list of non-playing staff were credited but Tony's name was conspicuous by its absence.
And before people gets their pitchforks out, I think he has made *a lot* of mistakes, e.g. letting previous managers sign whoever they wanted. My point is that the club has finally started making some progress, for which he deserves at least some credit.
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Agree with your view to be honest. We could be in a right old mess or ruined if tony leaves and end up with "wrong" owner. Look at charlton or coventry. Just need some hedge fund to give tony an offer he can't refuse. They come in sell ground and leverage us up on bank debt. Tony has made some bad decisions but has he made a profit? These hedge funds or other financially instititions will make sure they do. You also won't find them on twitter or have any communication with them. Be careful what you wish for! |  | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 15:07 - Apr 27 with 2197 views | R_from_afar |
| So if we did go down??? on 14:57 - Apr 27 by simmo |
I would suggest that progress and his increased detachment from the day to day at QPR are not mutually exclusive. Apart from his occasional chiming in of unhelpful statements on social media and his convenient appearance in front of the away fans at the end of the Fulham game, he's had less involvement and off the pitch at least we're finally starting to see some good stuff.
I agree he might deserve some credit for doing that (at last), but actions speak louder than words and I would rather see him shut his hole, put his phone down and let those positive changes take effect longer term before putting out yet ANOTHER article talking about finally learning his lesson AGAIN. A spade in the ground for the training ground will help too - something tangible for his investment and promises. |
I pretty much agree with all of that. I think his trouble is that he is both impulsive and very enthusiastic and that often makes him fire off a tweet without reflecting on the consequences. The golden rule with tweeting is that you engage your brain and re-read what you've written before unleashing it. Tony seems to struggle to do that!
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| So if we did go down??? on 15:09 - Apr 27 with 2195 views | daveB |
| So if we did go down??? on 12:55 - Apr 27 by paulparker |
The key part of that though Dave is the mismanagement we have had boardroom level from Thompson, wright, briatore, paladini , fernades , Blackburn & davies
we have been a basket case of a club which obviously hasn't helped those managers you have mentioned |
That's the thing, when you look at those managers not many of them are crap. Most have done well elsewhere but the club has been so badly mismanaged at the top for 20 odd years that they all fail. |  | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 15:14 - Apr 27 with 2189 views | JamesB1979 |
| So if we did go down??? on 15:09 - Apr 27 by daveB |
That's the thing, when you look at those managers not many of them are crap. Most have done well elsewhere but the club has been so badly mismanaged at the top for 20 odd years that they all fail. |
we hear this a lot when things aren't going well. What is this mismanagement? Tony's picked byenlarge managers that the masses wanted and some of which were highly rated e.g. Hughes. He's then pretty much let them sign who they wanted. If we spent too much, that's his problem not ours as long as he doesn't raise some external financing to pay for it (which he hasn't). All he's done is back his managers. Training ground and new ground seem to take foreever but he's trying to improve things that were destroyed under previous regimes. He's also shown quite a big of patience with some of the managers. I think its an easy answer to say that something else is wrong. Managers weve had just haven't been good enough and have made mistakes. | | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 15:47 - Apr 27 with 2139 views | qprphil |
I think TF has been fantastic for this club, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Yes he's been a bit of an arse sometimes on social media. But on the field all he's done is back managers to the tune of millions. Not coming from a football background, he was badly advised, time and time again. Did he learn, well, each new manager obviously told him this is what I want, and this is what they will do for the club, so he backed them. Nobody was complaining when we were signing these so called great players, all the fans were revelling in it. His board also probably were united in getting rid of the so called flop managers. Does anyone think he wanted to lose money. If he leaves, god help us, I can see many chairman packing in ages ago with what's happened, but he's still here, trying to get it right in fairness. Stability, is what we need, no one to go. [Post edited 27 Apr 2017 15:50]
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| So if we did go down??? on 15:51 - Apr 27 with 2132 views | daveB |
| So if we did go down??? on 15:14 - Apr 27 by JamesB1979 |
we hear this a lot when things aren't going well. What is this mismanagement? Tony's picked byenlarge managers that the masses wanted and some of which were highly rated e.g. Hughes. He's then pretty much let them sign who they wanted. If we spent too much, that's his problem not ours as long as he doesn't raise some external financing to pay for it (which he hasn't). All he's done is back his managers. Training ground and new ground seem to take foreever but he's trying to improve things that were destroyed under previous regimes. He's also shown quite a big of patience with some of the managers. I think its an easy answer to say that something else is wrong. Managers weve had just haven't been good enough and have made mistakes. |
It's not all about who we pick as manager, they need an infrastructure to work with.
We don't have a decent training ground which is important as that's the place of work for players and managers. Thats been the case for a very long time and could and should have been sorted out by now. I know the problems with Warren Farm but thats not the only piece of land in West London.
Until recently any manager coming in needed to bring a full coaching staff with him, medical team and scouting team, at most normal clubs these are already in place and a manager can add one or two rather than need a complete restructure.
We had no scouting set up to speak of, rarely looking at the opposition let alone future players so this again was down to the manager to sort out and when they left they usually left with the people they brought in so needed to start again from scratch.
Ferdinand coming in has tried to change this and has started to put that infrastructure together but it's still a long way from being perfect and his starting point was 10 years behind our local rivals.
It's all well and good backing managers with money in the transfer market but it's always be done as if we are in a casino, rolling the dice and having no clue as to if we will get red or black.
If you look at clubs of our size who have done well they have all this infrastructure in place. Watford spend a fortune on scouting not just players but managers so they find the best person for the job and good players they know will fit into how they want to play. Southampton are very similar, as are Swansea. These clubs are not luckier than us, they are just better run than us. | | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 16:26 - Apr 27 with 2100 views | JamesB1979 |
Good points. Isn't that why Tony brought in someone like Mike Rigg? Personally I could never understand what Rigg meant in interviews. All seemed to be a lot of cliches that could be true about every walk of life......to be fair that's been true of most of our managers. My point being that I think Tony has had right intentions but his employees haven''t done the job. Not just managers but likes of Rigg. He then gets Harry in who probably says, "no need for director of footballl when you got me. Waste of money. Give it to my dog". I think his problem is that he's been treated badly by people who tell him they are "football men". I think he's made some bad decisions but I think primarily he has been unlucky with his appointments. | | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 16:27 - Apr 27 with 2096 views | DannytheR |
| So if we did go down??? on 15:07 - Apr 27 by JamesB1979 |
Agree with your view to be honest. We could be in a right old mess or ruined if tony leaves and end up with "wrong" owner. Look at charlton or coventry. Just need some hedge fund to give tony an offer he can't refuse. They come in sell ground and leverage us up on bank debt. Tony has made some bad decisions but has he made a profit? These hedge funds or other financially instititions will make sure they do. You also won't find them on twitter or have any communication with them. Be careful what you wish for! |
With respect I don't think many people here need the lecture about the dangers of poor ownership. A lot (most?) of us went through the fiascos of Fulham Park Rangers, administration/League One, Paladini and the havoc he wreaked. Most of us will have been there for the bucket collection at LR, plenty of us will have taken part in various protests down the years.
I'd say if anything our experience of bad ownership in the last 30 years has probably made us *more* tolerant of Tony's mishaps than he deserves. [Post edited 27 Apr 2017 16:27]
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| So if we did go down??? on 16:32 - Apr 27 with 2084 views | JamesB1979 |
| So if we did go down??? on 16:27 - Apr 27 by DannytheR |
With respect I don't think many people here need the lecture about the dangers of poor ownership. A lot (most?) of us went through the fiascos of Fulham Park Rangers, administration/League One, Paladini and the havoc he wreaked. Most of us will have been there for the bucket collection at LR, plenty of us will have taken part in various protests down the years.
I'd say if anything our experience of bad ownership in the last 30 years has probably made us *more* tolerant of Tony's mishaps than he deserves. [Post edited 27 Apr 2017 16:27]
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Yes but with respect, how is that similar to the position today? What is our debt level? How much do we owe to 3rd parties? | | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 17:18 - Apr 27 with 2050 views | DannytheR |
| So if we did go down??? on 16:32 - Apr 27 by JamesB1979 |
Yes but with respect, how is that similar to the position today? What is our debt level? How much do we owe to 3rd parties? |
I'm not saying we're in the same position now. I'm saying you don't need to wag your finger at people and tell them to look at the examples of Charlton and Coventry when almost all of us will have have experienced very precarious times as actual supporters of QPR.
There is a spectrum between collection buckets and everything in the garden being rosy, and we sit somewhere at the more worrying end of it. The fact is, Fernandes and his backers bought a Premiership club, our status as which gave us a hugely increased income quite apart from whatever was put in by Tune. In fact all that money - not just Fernandes' but everything WE earned as a club from the promotion before he came here —Â disappeared paying for Shaun Wright Phillips and Jose Bosingwa and the chairman's photo opportunities playing keepy uppy with fcking Sandro in a replica shirt.
Yes, a lot of that was their money. Some of it was the club's, hard-earned by promotion. All of it has now gone.
I'm sorry but the bottom line here is simple - Tony Fernandes bought a Premiership club, and six years later owns one about to make its lowest league finish since we were owned by Gianni Paladini, with the same antiquated training facilities it had when he walked in the door.
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| So if we did go down??? on 17:36 - Apr 27 with 2017 views | JamesB1979 |
| So if we did go down??? on 17:18 - Apr 27 by DannytheR |
I'm not saying we're in the same position now. I'm saying you don't need to wag your finger at people and tell them to look at the examples of Charlton and Coventry when almost all of us will have have experienced very precarious times as actual supporters of QPR.
There is a spectrum between collection buckets and everything in the garden being rosy, and we sit somewhere at the more worrying end of it. The fact is, Fernandes and his backers bought a Premiership club, our status as which gave us a hugely increased income quite apart from whatever was put in by Tune. In fact all that money - not just Fernandes' but everything WE earned as a club from the promotion before he came here —Â disappeared paying for Shaun Wright Phillips and Jose Bosingwa and the chairman's photo opportunities playing keepy uppy with fcking Sandro in a replica shirt.
Yes, a lot of that was their money. Some of it was the club's, hard-earned by promotion. All of it has now gone.
I'm sorry but the bottom line here is simple - Tony Fernandes bought a Premiership club, and six years later owns one about to make its lowest league finish since we were owned by Gianni Paladini, with the same antiquated training facilities it had when he walked in the door.
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I was hardly lecturing. My point was that charlton and coventry are worrying present day examples of owners ruining football clubs. I'm talking about faceless owners who will ruthlessly strip a club of its assets, leverage up the balance sheet and ruin us.
Maybe I'm naive but I don't see that we are anywhere near the days of collection buckets. Nothing in the last set of accounts is worrying. Costs down to match our revenue reduction, 3rd party loans minimal. We are doing the right things. No we don't have the income to support the cost base, hence we are reducing it. Any shortfall is being met by the shareholder pockets. We're making a loss but still people are being paid. The owners are therefore putting money in their pockets to meet the shortfall. We are therefore no where near the days of collecting money in buckets.
Hes made plenty of mistakes but I'm thankful that while he is owner we will not go to the bad times we had years back. My concern is that we hound him out the door and we end up with an owner who had completely different intentions. Our previous experience was in my view brought along over a number of years. We just need to get a coventry type owner, faceless, purely financially driven and we will drop like a stone. | | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 18:41 - Apr 27 with 1979 views | DannytheR |
| So if we did go down??? on 17:36 - Apr 27 by JamesB1979 |
I was hardly lecturing. My point was that charlton and coventry are worrying present day examples of owners ruining football clubs. I'm talking about faceless owners who will ruthlessly strip a club of its assets, leverage up the balance sheet and ruin us.
Maybe I'm naive but I don't see that we are anywhere near the days of collection buckets. Nothing in the last set of accounts is worrying. Costs down to match our revenue reduction, 3rd party loans minimal. We are doing the right things. No we don't have the income to support the cost base, hence we are reducing it. Any shortfall is being met by the shareholder pockets. We're making a loss but still people are being paid. The owners are therefore putting money in their pockets to meet the shortfall. We are therefore no where near the days of collecting money in buckets.
Hes made plenty of mistakes but I'm thankful that while he is owner we will not go to the bad times we had years back. My concern is that we hound him out the door and we end up with an owner who had completely different intentions. Our previous experience was in my view brought along over a number of years. We just need to get a coventry type owner, faceless, purely financially driven and we will drop like a stone. |
Or we could have owners like those at Southampton, Stoke, Burnley or Bournemouth, all of who are now established Premiership clubs without historically having been any bigger than us.
Or in the Championship you can look at Brentford, whose trajectory in the last six years has been completely the opposite of ours. The season we went up to the Premiership under Warnock, they finished in mid table in League One. Now they've overtaken us, as a team and as a football club.
I wouldn't worry, I've seen very little evidence of anyone "hounding out" Fernandes. You yourself was the one who said on another thread you didn't think changing the manager or DoF had much effect on a team, but TF has always been lucky enough to have a fanbase who actually will hound out successive managers and Les Ferdinand long before they ever get to him. | | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 19:05 - Apr 27 with 1949 views | DeepcutHoop |
| So if we did go down??? on 16:42 - Apr 25 by daveB |
He said we need a few more points to be safe but it will be a good opportunity for Holloway to look at some of the young players ahead of next season. We didn't get those points and those young players haven't come into the team really so not sure how he is interfering. |
It doesn't matter what he actually says or does, if enough idiots decide they don't like what they think he's probably doing/not doing, then they'll just moan loudly enough for the board to send him on his way I'm sure. | | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 19:43 - Apr 27 with 1911 views | JamesB1979 |
| So if we did go down??? on 18:41 - Apr 27 by DannytheR |
Or we could have owners like those at Southampton, Stoke, Burnley or Bournemouth, all of who are now established Premiership clubs without historically having been any bigger than us.
Or in the Championship you can look at Brentford, whose trajectory in the last six years has been completely the opposite of ours. The season we went up to the Premiership under Warnock, they finished in mid table in League One. Now they've overtaken us, as a team and as a football club.
I wouldn't worry, I've seen very little evidence of anyone "hounding out" Fernandes. You yourself was the one who said on another thread you didn't think changing the manager or DoF had much effect on a team, but TF has always been lucky enough to have a fanbase who actually will hound out successive managers and Les Ferdinand long before they ever get to him. |
They've been far from great. I know that. Dave B makes some excellent points about structure that they should have done. Though I do think they have had right intentions for the club and fans. And just to finish off, I do not think that changing DoF or manager all time is good thing. My point was that a bad owner could ruin us. We can live with a bad manager. | | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 12:35 - Apr 28 with 1799 views | francisbowles |
| So if we did go down??? on 18:41 - Apr 27 by DannytheR |
Or we could have owners like those at Southampton, Stoke, Burnley or Bournemouth, all of who are now established Premiership clubs without historically having been any bigger than us.
Or in the Championship you can look at Brentford, whose trajectory in the last six years has been completely the opposite of ours. The season we went up to the Premiership under Warnock, they finished in mid table in League One. Now they've overtaken us, as a team and as a football club.
I wouldn't worry, I've seen very little evidence of anyone "hounding out" Fernandes. You yourself was the one who said on another thread you didn't think changing the manager or DoF had much effect on a team, but TF has always been lucky enough to have a fanbase who actually will hound out successive managers and Les Ferdinand long before they ever get to him. |
Similar sized clubs? In some ways it looks like that but there catchment area is basically there own as they are one club towns where everyone supports the local club as either there first choice or second if they are in the Man U/ scum etc school of glory hunting.
Even Brentford are the only club in Middlesex! | | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 13:22 - Apr 28 with 1753 views | TGRRRSSS |
| So if we did go down??? on 12:35 - Apr 28 by francisbowles |
Similar sized clubs? In some ways it looks like that but there catchment area is basically there own as they are one club towns where everyone supports the local club as either there first choice or second if they are in the Man U/ scum etc school of glory hunting.
Even Brentford are the only club in Middlesex! |
A lot is mentioned of catchment areas etc, all those mentioned onkly Southampton really justify it, and even then they are not truly massive.
Reading has in theory a enormous potential with some of the biggest catchment of numbers outside London, but relative to this potential they've never really managed due to proximity to London, or other teams elsewhere.
Most clubs in the top 2 Divs can get 40K odd say for Wembley (look at Coventry) below that generally it gets more difficult. | | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 13:50 - Apr 28 with 1713 views | DannytheR |
| So if we did go down??? on 12:35 - Apr 28 by francisbowles |
Similar sized clubs? In some ways it looks like that but there catchment area is basically there own as they are one club towns where everyone supports the local club as either there first choice or second if they are in the Man U/ scum etc school of glory hunting.
Even Brentford are the only club in Middlesex! |
But catchment area isn't just about geographical size - otherwise Carlisle and Plymouth would be massive clubs. Our natural territory might be relatively small but it includes some of the most densely populated parts of London, never mind the country as a whole.
This season, Bournemouth have had an average attendance of 12k, Hull, Burnley, Watford and Swansea are all at 20k. And in the Championship, Brentford are on crowds of 10k.
Yes we're not a "big" club (which I'm glad of) and there are long term structural issues to be addressed if we were to really want to re-establish ourselves where we were for much of the 80s and 90s. But as I said, one of the biggest counts against Fernandes is that for all the good work carried out by Hoos and Les behind the scenes, the really substantial physical projects only TF and the board can make happen —Â like a new training ground —Â have completely failed to materialise.
And it's grinding a lot of people's gears being patronised and bullshitted every time the chairman opens his mouth, while handing over the kind of money we're still expected to pay to actually see the team play. [Post edited 28 Apr 2017 13:52]
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| So if we did go down??? on 14:13 - Apr 28 with 1681 views | paulparker |
| So if we did go down??? on 13:50 - Apr 28 by DannytheR |
But catchment area isn't just about geographical size - otherwise Carlisle and Plymouth would be massive clubs. Our natural territory might be relatively small but it includes some of the most densely populated parts of London, never mind the country as a whole.
This season, Bournemouth have had an average attendance of 12k, Hull, Burnley, Watford and Swansea are all at 20k. And in the Championship, Brentford are on crowds of 10k.
Yes we're not a "big" club (which I'm glad of) and there are long term structural issues to be addressed if we were to really want to re-establish ourselves where we were for much of the 80s and 90s. But as I said, one of the biggest counts against Fernandes is that for all the good work carried out by Hoos and Les behind the scenes, the really substantial physical projects only TF and the board can make happen —Â like a new training ground —Â have completely failed to materialise.
And it's grinding a lot of people's gears being patronised and bullshitted every time the chairman opens his mouth, while handing over the kind of money we're still expected to pay to actually see the team play. [Post edited 28 Apr 2017 13:52]
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I never thought I would ever agree with you on anything , but your post is spot on
how TF still gets an easy ride from the fan base still mystifies me, we still pay a lot of money for mediocre football with false promises , we are still 6 years done the line without a proper training ground , we as per usual have been left behind by the likes of Bournemouth, Burnley & Watford
we are so behind we cannot even beat Brentford or even compete with them
we as a club will always have a core support of 15k , if we get it right easily 25-30 k
the problem is the Board its not Les who I think has performed miracles especially bringing through players from the youth team how TF can have the gall and talk about how he always wanted the mannings of the world to progress to the first team and how its about foundations really boils my P1ss |  |
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| So if we did go down??? on 14:15 - Apr 28 with 1676 views | Northernr |
| So if we did go down??? on 14:13 - Apr 28 by paulparker |
I never thought I would ever agree with you on anything , but your post is spot on
how TF still gets an easy ride from the fan base still mystifies me, we still pay a lot of money for mediocre football with false promises , we are still 6 years done the line without a proper training ground , we as per usual have been left behind by the likes of Bournemouth, Burnley & Watford
we are so behind we cannot even beat Brentford or even compete with them
we as a club will always have a core support of 15k , if we get it right easily 25-30 k
the problem is the Board its not Les who I think has performed miracles especially bringing through players from the youth team how TF can have the gall and talk about how he always wanted the mannings of the world to progress to the first team and how its about foundations really boils my P1ss |
This is right. Burnley a prime example - same or lower attendances as us at this level, and half the price of our tickets, and yet do just fine, because the club's run properly. |  | | |
| So if we did go down??? on 12:28 - Apr 29 with 1528 views | SomersetHoops |
Perhaps a radical idea, but why doesn't QPR ever go for stability? The real problem is we put people in place just long enough to know what is wrong with the place, but never long enough to deal with it. All the constant changes and the fans screaming for them could be the reason we don't perform consistently well - because there is no feeling of stability or slolidity about the club. Players probably don't feel they can commit to any manager we have, because they expect they will be gone after a few months and they will need to change their alliegance to the next occupant of the hot seat.
The problems at QPR will take more than a season or two to put right and if we try sticking with people who have the club's interest at heart for long enough we might atually start to generate loyalty from players towards them and have enough time to develop our young players. The signs from our manager of panicing to save his job by trying inexperienced youngsters for half a game and then abandoning them for the hope that trying yet another who might become superman overnight and save the day, is only a preview to another change doomed to the same failure. What is needed is calm support from the fans and the board, so panic moves are not required and if that had been in place we may not have lost the last 6 games and be in the slightly precarious position that we find ourselves in now. Even if we do go down and I regret it could happen, do we blame the manager, DoF, CEO, owners, fans or a collective of all of them? Or do we stick with it and use the knowledge gained to put things right? |  |
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