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Reply | Fulton
at 12:29 25 Nov 2024
This needs to be taken account when judging the manager. Our bench was
Bianchini
Christie
Fulton
Abbey
Abdulai
McLaughlin
Naughton
Tjoe-A-On
Who in that list doesn’t weaken us considerably? The only real arguments you can make are Bianchini for Peart-Harris and Bianchini/Vipotnik for Cullen.
Possibly that will change if and when Eom, Ginelly, Govea and Parker are available, but at the moment we’re playing a squad game with not much more than a starting eleven. |
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Reply | Swansea City v Leeds United : Match day thread UPDATED
at 12:22 25 Nov 2024
No excuses. I thought not settling for a point given the way the game had gone, the way we conceded the other three goals and the quality Leeds were able to bring on compared to us was a mistake.
Even from the point of view a last minute draw in a raucous atmosphere in the first game under new ownership would have given us a lot of impetus.
Great to see we can give what isn’t far off a PL team a hell of a game though, even if they were the better side. |
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Reply | Peart - Harris
at 10:38 25 Nov 2024
That’s fair enough and I’d have been all over it if we’d sneaked a win.
The way the game was playing out though, both teams, but especially us were vulnerable when we were attacking. The chances of conceding by losing possession in their half were far higher than they are in most games. They were countering with pace, intricacy and numbers we just couldn’t handle.
No issue with the Milwall one at all, but yesterday was one of the moments we needed to take stock IMO.
Having said that, it’s exactly what we did for the last few minutes at Burnley and that went wrong too. |
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Reply | Peart - Harris
at 09:26 25 Nov 2024
The Milwall one at 0-0 when we were battering them I can take as one of those things. They hadn’t really threatened all game.
Leeds when we were holding our own, but they looked so dangerous on the counter attack was just naive. That point would have been a huge morale booster. |
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Reply | Peart - Harris
at 06:05 25 Nov 2024
That was the frustration for me. I know it’s easy with hindsight, but 3-3 would have been a cracking result and set us up for Derby and Portsmouth with a bit of momentum. Especially with an injury time equaliser.
Leeds had scored three similar goals by turning us over high up the pitch and breaking quickly down the wings. I’m not sure they’d have been able to break us down if we’d just sat back and taken the draw. Think we should have been pragmatic there. |
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Reply | Tyler Morse looks set to take on a more prominent role
at 10:58 24 Nov 2024
Burnley - 9 shots 4 on target
Watford - 12 shots 3 on target
Oxford - 16 shots 5 on target
Milwall - 17 shots 5 on target
Sheffield Wednesday 9 shots 1 on target
In all of the last 5 bar Burnley, who I think most agree are one of the best teams in the league, we have had more shots (i.e. created more chances) than the opposition. Watford, Oxford and Milwall didn’t come close to us.
I don’t expect it to be like that today against Piroe, Rodon and co, but I do against Derby and Portsmouth.
He’s tightened us up and the back to the extent only Burnley, Leeds and Sheffield United have conceded less than us.
We’re regularly creating more chances than our opponents, accepting that won’t be the case when we are playing recent PL teams with big budgets.
We’re just not converting enough of them at the moment. |
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Reply | The Championship weekend is here !
at 10:40 24 Nov 2024
One up front with two wingers. Three in midfield with fullbacks overlapping. Nobody in midfield who runs directly at defenders or plays defence splitting passes. Doesn’t suit strikers who can’t compete with centre backs physically.
If you’re not sure what’s happening, listen to the commentator. |
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Reply | The Championship weekend is here !
at 06:43 24 Nov 2024
There was very little between Yates and Cullen last season. The reality is both of them are unsuited to the way Williams wants to play.
Sending him out on loan wasn’t the wrong decision. Replacing him with Vipotnik, on the evidence so far at least, was.
Vipotnik at least has a chance of developing into the type of striker that would work in this system. Kukharevych - I don’t know. Looked to have the physical attributes. Hasn’t kicked on in Scotland.
Yates is proving he’s a decent player when played to his strengths. I don’t think that will happen for him or Cullen here. |
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Reply | Tyler Morse looks set to take on a more prominent role
at 05:53 24 Nov 2024
Again, that’s totally different to saying you think his days here are definitely numbered.
I agree with the general sentiment of that. Of course he’s not guaranteed a job unconditionally.
Can’t go along with ‘aimlessly passing around the back’ though. We very rarely do that. Yes Russell Martin did it, but people have to get to grips with them being different managers who don’t play the same football. We play out from the back, but we look to get it to at least the halfway line quickly and invariably manage that.
Where we struggle is breaking defences down in the final third. This is where Williams needs some help with players.
If and when he gets creativity and a fit for purpose striker, that’s when I completely agree with you, he should be cut less slack and judged accordingly.
Mid table with the current squad isn’t mediocrity, it’s an achievement. When we’ve got a competitive squad, it’s on him to move us up the table. |
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Reply | Jamie P free agent ?
at 15:58 23 Nov 2024
There we go.
We shouldn’t be in a position where Paterson would improve the squad, but as things stand, we are. |
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Reply | Tyler Morse looks set to take on a more prominent role
at 15:24 23 Nov 2024
You’re not seeing the full picture. You’re just looking at the league table without context.
What Omri just said is right. If he gets backed and we bring better players in, nobody will be able to say he’s playing with a hand tied behind his back or he hasn’t been backed.
At the moment, we’ve got the weakest strike force since we left the Vetch in my opinion, including the seasons in league one. We’ve got two centre backs who have to play every minute, we’re in a lot of trouble the minute either of them gets injured and we haven’t got a fit #10 at the club.
Judge him when he’s on a level playing field, which will hopefully be soon. |
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Reply | Tyler Morse looks set to take on a more prominent role
at 15:13 23 Nov 2024
That’s exactly what you’re saying.
‘I do believe his days are definitely numbered should this taken over happen’. Words to that effect with exactly that meaning.
Unless you’re saying you don’t think we should sack him but you think the new owners will.
I doubt anybody would have disagreed with the post you just made, but it completely contradicts the one where you thought his data were definitely numbered. |
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Reply | Jamie P free agent ?
at 13:54 23 Nov 2024
The moment we sign someone better, I’ll revise my opinion.
I’m only looking at it as signing him or not signing him and at the moment we have an obvious vacancy for that kind of player.
If we can sign someone better, younger or less disruptive to do the same job, I wouldn’t want Paterson back. |
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Reply | Jamie P free agent ?
at 12:16 23 Nov 2024
Yeah he does. But he also opens up defences, which nobody in our squad does at the moment.
I’m not suggesting we give him a three year contract or anything like that. |
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Reply | it's done the new era begins
at 12:00 23 Nov 2024
Most of us have had our expectations beaten down to an extremely low level over recent seasons. Just filling the achingly obvious gaps in the squad and doing their utmost to get the centre backs tied down would suffice for a lot of us.
We need to be competitive wages wise too. Not with Leeds and Sheffield United, but with run of the mill championship clubs. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.
No one realistic expects us to be spending huge amounts of transfer fees, but I accept we do have a number of unrealistic fans who will see the £20m figure and get the wrong idea. |
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Reply | Jamie P free agent ?
at 11:46 23 Nov 2024
Going against the grain here, but I think if he’ll take a Cyrus Christie type contract until the end of the season it’s a win-win.
Clearly an area we’re struggling in. I’ve even read ‘we’re missing a Paterson type’ a few times on here.
If he wants a longer deal, then no, but to help us out in the short term and put himself in the shop window, I think it makes sense. |
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