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Another low crowd
at 08:47 9 Mar 2025

Yeah this is exactly it. If committed fans are giving up, what chance have we got attracting the next generation?

For the vast majority of those 40 years, you either went to the ground or you didn’t see the game. That’s not the case anymore. We played a lot of dire football at the Vetch.
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Another low crowd
at 08:30 9 Mar 2025

Plenty have, openly on here. Maybe the captain was stretching it, but certainly the rest.

I don’t think people from here are doing anything else, they are just watching at home. They still post about the games.

You may be right about people who don’t use this site just finding other things to do. I’m talking about the more invested fans who are interested enough to come on here and discuss the Swans.
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Vipotnik
at 08:22 9 Mar 2025

Definitely. 100% agree this way of playing suits him better.

It’s not the binary scenario where one party is 100% to blame and the other is 100% faultless that many would have you believe.
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Another low crowd
at 07:29 9 Mar 2025

Would you ever consider not going because you didn’t like the playing style/owners/manager/captain etc?

I agree, once previously match going fans become armchair fans, you’ll be lucky to see them a couple of times a season.
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Vipotnik
at 07:26 9 Mar 2025

It’s a combination of both.

Absolutely no arguments from me that the way Williams played didn’t suit him. Vipotnik is nowhere near blameless for his performances since August though.

Cullen and Bianchini have played that role in little spells this season and both made a better fist of it.

I wouldn’t say three good games either. Excellent yesterday and against Blackburn. Barely involved at Preston, I think the commentator counted 5 touches fairly late in the first half.

Regardless of all that, if he keeps playing like he did yesterday, he’ll be a real asset.
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Another low crowd
at 07:00 9 Mar 2025

Those people should be the cherry on the cake, not a significant chunk of our fan base
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Vipotnik
at 06:49 9 Mar 2025

This was written about Hojlund at Man United recently, but it sums up Vipotnik under Williams and at Preston midweek superbly.

‘Rasmus Hojlund having 17 shots in 22 Premier League games this season tells us he doesn't really understand the CF position: the right movements to make and when/how to get shots off from certain positions. That's the type of shot production you would expect from a CM at a mid-table club.

To put this into context this ranks him around 144th in the league, behind De Ligt and Dalot (our defenders) and Casemiro (who has hardly played) to name a few.

It’s the same number as Martinez who’s a CB and been out for a month.

Cameron Archer, who has similar minutes for objectively the worst team in the league, has 25.

So yeah, I think the issue is more than just creation.’


Clearly having the likes of Cullen and Eom closer to him gives Vipotnik options to lay off to (which he does really well) and gives him a bit more space to get shots away. Without doubt you’d expect him to be better in this system.

Like Hojlund though, he has failed to do the basics for most of the season. There’s no excuse for shying away from physical contact, not making decent runs or being a couple of seconds late to react to chances, regardless of the manager or the system.

He looks like the player we thought we were getting now. His efforts over the last 6 months don’t get exonerated.
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Another low crowd
at 06:30 9 Mar 2025

We seem to have a new breed of fan that prefer to stream games unless everything is perfect. I’m sure this is affecting every club, not just us.

Yes, there are things the club could do, but I think it’s mainly down to how accessible games are now.

Levein has gone
Williams has gone
Grimes has gone

The excuses have gone.

If people don’t start turning up now, I think we have to accept our core fan base is shrinking. At least in terms of attending games.
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Home form
at 20:03 25 Feb 2025

Off the ball movement is a massive skill in itself. Especially when it’s done in numbers in coordination like it was in the Rodgers and Laudrup teams. It pulls defenders out of position and creates opportunities for killer passes.

Not sure why you think Grimes was static. He was constantly showing for the ball, which is why he had so many touches and everything seemed to go through him. The difference between Grimes and the players you mentioned, is he’d look to give teammates the easiest option possible which was often backwards and very rarely advanced us. It’s why he often got accused of slowing us down (along with his tendency to take an extra touch and get it onto his left foot).

The likes of Routledge would find space in areas they could hurt the opposition. Grimes didn’t do that.
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🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job
at 15:11 25 Feb 2025

This was the only thing I found frustrating on Saturday.

You may not like the manager or the tactics, but at least do the basics regardless. Showing for the ball, physical aggression, wanting it at least as much as the opposition.

Tactics and formations are down to the manager. Everything above should be a given whoever is in charge.

I’m still happy Williams is gone though.
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🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job
at 17:45 24 Feb 2025

Completely agree with this. Performance was more important if anything.

The 7 or 8 point gap we had over the bottom 3 would be a fairly safe zone under normal circumstances. Not the case when you’re losing every week and playing like you’re going to keep on losing.

I don’t think we actually need that many points. Keep playing anywhere near the way we did Saturday and we should be safe fairly soon.

I think too soon to make a call on Sheehan, but the intensity and cohesion were miles better.
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Swans crush Blackburn : Was it just a coincidence ?
at 08:57 23 Feb 2025

Let’s be sensible about this. Vipotnik doesn’t get off Scot free since August just because Luke Williams has been abysmal since Christmas.

Imposing yourself on the game, competing physically and demanding the ball should all be givens, regardless of who is in charge or what tactics they play. They are fundamentals, not something a manager should need to install. He did all three yesterday. People have been saying all season that we don’t create enough for him, first time he plays his part, he gets two on a plate. It’s not coincidence. Huge credit for yesterday though.

As for the others, Yates seems to have done ok at Derby, not well enough that we’d be interested in buying him if he wasn’t already our player, but he’s scored goals and seems valued up there.

Kukharevych has failed so far in Scotland.

Bianchini I like. Not sure if he’s better out wide, but a decent option either way.

Eom just looks like he can’t get to grips with the pace and intensity. He’s certainly talented.

However we look at it (and Luke Williams has certainly been a massive problem since the West Brom thing) recruitment up front has been more miss than hit and needs to improve substantially.
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Coaches and how they ruin players
at 20:17 22 Feb 2025

Got to give Vipotnik a shout as I’ve criticised him pretty much all season.

Different player today. Put himself about physically, imposed himself on the game and showed some really nice touches as well as good hold up play.

The second goal was brilliant, just for the sheer effort and aggression Vipotnik and Peart-Harris put into it, let alone the finish.

Franco though was a different class. What a performance
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Yates at Derby
at 10:26 21 Feb 2025

Yates was no better or worse than Cullen last season, playing in the same systems under the same managers. He just had much higher wages.

Whilst we’re all glad Williams is gone, the elephant up front is still in the room.

As things stand, next season we will have Vipotnik, Bianchini, Cullen, Yates and Kukharevych on the books. None of them really fit for purpose as a centre forward. Bianchini wide or Cullen deeper, but none of them leading the line.

We’ll have to cut our losses on at least two of them I’d think. Hopefully Wilson can step up or we can get an attacking signing right this summer.
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Our rivals business
at 13:12 5 Feb 2025

Absolutely right. Getting this squad (not starting eleven) to mid table half way through the season was more than could be expected and why I defended him to that point, even though the football was often dull.

Stubbornly persisting with him after it was clear he had lost the players was a huge mistake and will continue to be so until he goes.
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Matt Grimes : An in-depth look into the reasons why ?
at 12:11 5 Feb 2025

Completely agree. He was one of the few players who would have had the option to move to another Championship side and get more money. I’m fairly confident we’d have seen others doing similar if there was interest in them.

I’m sure Darling is another, but it makes sense for him to sit tight for a few months.

Whatever he said on Twitter, Williams needs to leave before we stagnate any more.
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Coleman Out
at 12:33 4 Feb 2025

Agree with you to a point. Levein and Kaplans nationality isn’t the issue, the fact they crippled our club is. The ‘Yankee’ nonsense isn’t at all necessary.

Coleman has money in the bank for seeing those two off and attracting serious investment, but the jury is very much out based on the transfer window and his handling (or otherwise) of the Luke Williams situation.
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Swansea City in absolute joke mode after deadline day
at 12:02 4 Feb 2025

On the pitch at least, it has echoes of our final season in the PL where we dragged ourselves away from the relegation zone under Carvahal and looked fairly secure quite deep into the season.

Then we went on the kind of run we’re on now, losing every game with abject performances and got sucked back into it.

For us to avoid relegation, either O’Brien is going to have to be one hell or a player or Williams needs to go. Yesterday won’t have helped squad morale, which already looks at rock bottom.
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Swansea City in absolute joke mode after deadline day
at 11:54 4 Feb 2025

From his point of view

Bigger club
Better players
Better manager with no uncertainty about his future
Bigger fan base
More chance of promotion in the next few seasons

I can accept getting outmuscled by Norwich. What I can’t take is leaving it until deadline day and putting all our eggs in one basket. This will happen time and time again with that strategy.
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Swansea City in absolute joke mode after deadline day
at 11:01 4 Feb 2025

Yes, but that’s not the point you made. It was about the worst parts of Swansea, not the best.

There’s not a single area in Swansea I would feel unsafe in. I couldn’t say the same for Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham etc.

And on the vibrant city point, he’s gone to Norwich.
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