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Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ 18:05 - Nov 25 with 10801 viewsModeratorC

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Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 21:11 - Nov 29 with 380 viewsFireboy2

Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 19:19 - Nov 29 by jack247

If you’re looking at our starting eleven yes.

When you account for the fact it’s a squad game now and most teams can bring five subs on without weakening the side, we are punching above our weight to be in mid table.


Some people can't see that.
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Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 23:03 - Nov 29 with 313 viewsbuilthjack

Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 17:32 - Nov 29 by onehunglow

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I wouldn’t replace him at the moment.
If he is given some money in January to bring in 3 or 4 of his own choice players, then I will judge him between then and the end of the season.

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Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 06:27 - Nov 30 with 260 viewsjack247

Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 21:11 - Nov 29 by Fireboy2

Some people can't see that.


It’s staggering to see the same people say they think the squad should be doing better, then complain when he brings Fulton and Abdulai on.
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Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 09:46 - Nov 30 with 214 viewsonehunglow

Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 23:03 - Nov 29 by builthjack

I wouldn’t replace him at the moment.
If he is given some money in January to bring in 3 or 4 of his own choice players, then I will judge him between then and the end of the season.


Thanks.
I would @ctually probably agree .

Our primary focus should be on maintaining our current league status ,get new blood in for next season and offload the deadwood .

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Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 11:03 - Nov 30 with 189 viewsDr_Winston

Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 06:27 - Nov 30 by jack247

It’s staggering to see the same people say they think the squad should be doing better, then complain when he brings Fulton and Abdulai on.


Well no. The primary thing most people (other than the usual haters who I believes that we both have equal contempt for) complain about is that he brings Abdulai on out wide instead of an actual winger. Putting a player so obviously unsuited for the role he's being asked to play is detrimental to the team and he keeps doing it. Game after game.

We're not in a position to have two first team options for every position on the pitch, which makes it important that the coach maximises what he does have. He's getting there now, albeit with a couple of blind spots. He was nowhere near in October/November, and it's baffling to me that people are still pretending otherwise.

We're well past the point where anyone should be claiming that the squad he has isn't capable of being competitive because it quite clearly is as recent results and performances have demonstrated. What it needs is to be used properly. Round pegs, round holes. Players in roles that work to their strengths, not to fit some pre-planned tactical idea.
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Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 11:22 - Nov 30 with 172 viewsunion_jack

Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 11:03 - Nov 30 by Dr_Winston

Well no. The primary thing most people (other than the usual haters who I believes that we both have equal contempt for) complain about is that he brings Abdulai on out wide instead of an actual winger. Putting a player so obviously unsuited for the role he's being asked to play is detrimental to the team and he keeps doing it. Game after game.

We're not in a position to have two first team options for every position on the pitch, which makes it important that the coach maximises what he does have. He's getting there now, albeit with a couple of blind spots. He was nowhere near in October/November, and it's baffling to me that people are still pretending otherwise.

We're well past the point where anyone should be claiming that the squad he has isn't capable of being competitive because it quite clearly is as recent results and performances have demonstrated. What it needs is to be used properly. Round pegs, round holes. Players in roles that work to their strengths, not to fit some pre-planned tactical idea.
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We’ve discussed this b3fore but sadly I don’t believe Abdulai is a Championship footballer, in any position. The basics to deliver at this level just aren’t there in my opinion.

Fulton can blow hot and cold, mainly the latter unfortunately.

I see why LW keeps giving Abdulai a chance, even though it’s out of his normal position, and that’s to get his confidence up. But it’s not working. I wish for his sake and ours it was!

We are not a strong squad and injuries weaken us more than other sides. Having to rely on Naughton is not a good sign though I will say that he has turned in a fair few performances when brought on but not consistently.

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Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 11:32 - Nov 30 with 158 viewsDr_Winston

Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 11:22 - Nov 30 by union_jack

We’ve discussed this b3fore but sadly I don’t believe Abdulai is a Championship footballer, in any position. The basics to deliver at this level just aren’t there in my opinion.

Fulton can blow hot and cold, mainly the latter unfortunately.

I see why LW keeps giving Abdulai a chance, even though it’s out of his normal position, and that’s to get his confidence up. But it’s not working. I wish for his sake and ours it was!

We are not a strong squad and injuries weaken us more than other sides. Having to rely on Naughton is not a good sign though I will say that he has turned in a fair few performances when brought on but not consistently.


He may not be. The point I'm making is that nobody can say with any certainty because the poor sod keeps getting sent out for execution every game. If he had it in him to begin with the confidence will be at a low ebb by now. He's been appallingly handled.

Fulton is a decent enough option in the right midfield, albeit very much a squad option these days than a first choice. He's often been an easy target for some over the years but his plus column is significantly higher than the minuses for me. What we must never do if we can possibly help it is pair him with Grimes because they bring the worst out in each other.

People thought that losing Eom would be a huge blow, but results and performances have actually been pretty good in his absence. I don't think the squad is anything like as weak as a lot of people are claiming that it is. In comparison to some we've had in the past perhaps. In comparison to the rest of the division other than the likes of Leeds? I'm not so sure.

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Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 11:34 - Nov 30 with 157 viewsWhiterockin

Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 11:22 - Nov 30 by union_jack

We’ve discussed this b3fore but sadly I don’t believe Abdulai is a Championship footballer, in any position. The basics to deliver at this level just aren’t there in my opinion.

Fulton can blow hot and cold, mainly the latter unfortunately.

I see why LW keeps giving Abdulai a chance, even though it’s out of his normal position, and that’s to get his confidence up. But it’s not working. I wish for his sake and ours it was!

We are not a strong squad and injuries weaken us more than other sides. Having to rely on Naughton is not a good sign though I will say that he has turned in a fair few performances when brought on but not consistently.


It could be that Abdulai shows much in training and little on a match day, some players are like that. Full of promise and potential but can't deliver in the match environment where everything is quicker and sharper. Possibly Williams is just hoping he will click, he is a so much a better player in the u21s even when he takes up wide positions.
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Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 12:06 - Nov 30 with 121 viewsjack247

Derby County v Swansea City : Match day thread UPDATED ⚽️ on 11:03 - Nov 30 by Dr_Winston

Well no. The primary thing most people (other than the usual haters who I believes that we both have equal contempt for) complain about is that he brings Abdulai on out wide instead of an actual winger. Putting a player so obviously unsuited for the role he's being asked to play is detrimental to the team and he keeps doing it. Game after game.

We're not in a position to have two first team options for every position on the pitch, which makes it important that the coach maximises what he does have. He's getting there now, albeit with a couple of blind spots. He was nowhere near in October/November, and it's baffling to me that people are still pretending otherwise.

We're well past the point where anyone should be claiming that the squad he has isn't capable of being competitive because it quite clearly is as recent results and performances have demonstrated. What it needs is to be used properly. Round pegs, round holes. Players in roles that work to their strengths, not to fit some pre-planned tactical idea.
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The point you’re missing is that we haven’t got actual wingers to bring on. That’s not Abdulais fault and it’s not Luke Williams fault. Bianchini looks better than either Cullen or Vipotnik as a centre forward so he’s not really an option.

It’s the reason we struggle late in games and the reason Luke Williams is punching above his weight.

A fully fit squad with Eom, Govea and Parker and he’s still staring Peart-Harris and bringing Abdulai on out wide and you’d have a point.

The ‘this squad is capable because it’s got good results recently’ argument is the sort of thing I’d expect from lesser posters than you who are determined not to give the manager any credit at all.
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