| Voting against winter allowance 20:01 - Sep 9 with 1423 views | onehunglow |
Will they have the guts
Will Keir punish them if they do |  |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 20:07 - Sep 9 with 1408 views | Whiterockin |
If they did would it be a record time for a revolt and would it be the tories fault. |  | | |
| Voting against winter allowance on 20:35 - Sep 9 with 1356 views | SullutaCreturned |
Oops, wrong thread.
They need to change the parameters, they need to raise the bar so fewer OAP's are caught in the net.
If they do that straight away maybe people will believe they are different, that they will listen.
If they turn a deaf ear to the complaints they will cast their own die and people will turn against them.
Have they even considered what happens if we have a really cold winter and a lot of people die? [Post edited 9 Sep 20:39]
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| Voting against winter allowance on 20:51 - Sep 9 with 1327 views | onehunglow |
| Voting against winter allowance on 20:35 - Sep 9 by SullutaCreturned |
Oops, wrong thread.
They need to change the parameters, they need to raise the bar so fewer OAP's are caught in the net.
If they do that straight away maybe people will believe they are different, that they will listen.
If they turn a deaf ear to the complaints they will cast their own die and people will turn against them.
Have they even considered what happens if we have a really cold winter and a lot of people die? [Post edited 9 Sep 20:39]
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Ifvwechaveca cold winter,it will be Tories fault | |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 21:03 - Sep 9 with 1320 views | max936 |
| Voting against winter allowance on 20:51 - Sep 9 by onehunglow |
Ifvwechaveca cold winter,it will be Tories fault |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 21:04 - Sep 9 with 1315 views | onehunglow |
| Voting against winter allowance on 21:03 - Sep 9 by max936 |
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If we have a | |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 00:32 - Sep 10 with 1218 views | howenjack |
Jack Frost could well cause the downfall of this labour govt. | | | |
| Voting against winter allowance on 01:16 - Sep 10 with 1209 views | Robbie |
| Voting against winter allowance on 00:32 - Sep 10 by howenjack |
Jack Frost could well cause the downfall of this labour govt. |
TUC Conference will mutter and moan , will still back Labour though , winter fuel allowance for Pensioners lost for the most needy , train drivers on £70 per week now , happy days . | | | |
| Voting against winter allowance on 08:08 - Sep 10 with 1109 views | Boundy |
| Voting against winter allowance on 01:16 - Sep 10 by Robbie |
TUC Conference will mutter and moan , will still back Labour though , winter fuel allowance for Pensioners lost for the most needy , train drivers on £70 per week now , happy days . |
For attending one day/ j hour/minute in the House of Lords, the privileged few can claim £323 per DAY .Lord Kinnock for example along with the other 180 labour Lords you ought to be totally ashamed o of yourself , but won't be | |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 09:55 - Sep 10 with 1054 views | onehunglow |
| Voting against winter allowance on 08:08 - Sep 10 by Boundy |
For attending one day/ j hour/minute in the House of Lords, the privileged few can claim £323 per DAY .Lord Kinnock for example along with the other 180 labour Lords you ought to be totally ashamed o of yourself , but won't be |
Hypocrites
They just have to turn up then have a nap
Working class ….myass | |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 15:55 - Sep 10 with 925 views | Wingstandwood |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5y3n56eg9rt
QUOTE: "Cut to winter fuel payment set to go ahead after government wins Commons vote" END OF QUOTE
It is going through, any Labour M.P who either voted for it, or abstained is a disgrace! |  |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 16:09 - Sep 10 with 892 views | Wingstandwood |
Looks like only one Labour M.P was concerned enough to vote in support for O.A.P's in his constituency by voting to block Labour policy i.e.Jon Trickett.
QUOTE: "In a statement , external posted on social media, he said he could not back the government "in good conscience", adding: "I will sleep well tonight knowing that I voted to defend my constituents." END OF QUOTE.
https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/commons/division/1840 [Post edited 10 Sep 16:14]
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| Voting against winter allowance on 17:52 - Sep 10 with 830 views | onehunglow |
| Voting against winter allowance on 15:55 - Sep 10 by Wingstandwood |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5y3n56eg9rt
QUOTE: "Cut to winter fuel payment set to go ahead after government wins Commons vote" END OF QUOTE
It is going through, any Labour M.P who either voted for it, or abstained is a disgrace! |
And they scrap free prescriptions in time too.
They will vote for that
In the short period of time they’ve been in power,things look really ominous | |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 18:14 - Sep 10 with 789 views | AnotherJohn |
| Voting against winter allowance on 16:09 - Sep 10 by Wingstandwood |
Looks like only one Labour M.P was concerned enough to vote in support for O.A.P's in his constituency by voting to block Labour policy i.e.Jon Trickett.
QUOTE: "In a statement , external posted on social media, he said he could not back the government "in good conscience", adding: "I will sleep well tonight knowing that I voted to defend my constituents." END OF QUOTE.
https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/commons/division/1840 [Post edited 10 Sep 16:14]
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Yes, almost all the SW Wales Labour MPs voted against the opposition motion ensuring a healthy 120 vote majority for going ahead with means testing. The Gower MP didn't vote, probably because of an authorised absence. | | | |
| Voting against winter allowance on 18:17 - Sep 10 with 784 views | onehunglow |
| Voting against winter allowance on 18:14 - Sep 10 by AnotherJohn |
Yes, almost all the SW Wales Labour MPs voted against the opposition motion ensuring a healthy 120 vote majority for going ahead with means testing. The Gower MP didn't vote, probably because of an authorised absence. |
Gutless | |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 19:45 - Sep 10 with 729 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Voting against winter allowance on 18:14 - Sep 10 by AnotherJohn |
Yes, almost all the SW Wales Labour MPs voted against the opposition motion ensuring a healthy 120 vote majority for going ahead with means testing. The Gower MP didn't vote, probably because of an authorised absence. |
Can we imagine for a second a parallel universe where the conservatives had won the recent election and within the first few weeks start raiding the pockets of pensioners. What would the reaction have been? What would these Labour politicians who are in this reality leaping over each other to justify this have to say? |  |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 19:49 - Sep 10 with 720 views | AnotherJohn |
| Voting against winter allowance on 19:45 - Sep 10 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Can we imagine for a second a parallel universe where the conservatives had won the recent election and within the first few weeks start raiding the pockets of pensioners. What would the reaction have been? What would these Labour politicians who are in this reality leaping over each other to justify this have to say? |
Probably Labour would be saying that Sir Keir was right when he predicted the Tories would do this and urged people to vote Labour to prevent it happening. | | | |
| Voting against winter allowance on 20:03 - Sep 10 with 687 views | Gwyn737 |
| Voting against winter allowance on 19:45 - Sep 10 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Can we imagine for a second a parallel universe where the conservatives had won the recent election and within the first few weeks start raiding the pockets of pensioners. What would the reaction have been? What would these Labour politicians who are in this reality leaping over each other to justify this have to say? |
That universe isn’t too far away.
Many of the Tories who voted for the bill were elected in 2017 on a manifesto that promised to cut the WFA. [Post edited 10 Sep 20:39]
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| Voting against winter allowance on 20:15 - Sep 10 with 675 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Voting against winter allowance on 20:03 - Sep 10 by Gwyn737 |
That universe isn’t too far away.
Many of the Tories who voted for the bill were elected in 2017 on a manifesto that promised to cut the WFA. [Post edited 10 Sep 20:39]
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Just goes to show they are two sides of the same turd really. 💩 | |
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| Voting against winter allowance on 20:48 - Sep 10 with 637 views | AnotherJohn |
| Voting against winter allowance on 20:15 - Sep 10 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Just goes to show they are two sides of the same turd really. 💩 |
The two sides of the ****?
Conservative Party 2017 Manifesto
"So we will look at Winter Fuel Payments, the largest benefit paid to pensioners, in this
context. The benefit is paid regardless of need, giving money to wealthier pensioners
when working people on lower incomes do not get similar support. So we will means test Winter Fuel Payments, focusing assistance on the least well-off pensioners, who are most at risk of fuel poverty."
Labour's Darren Jones in 2023
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