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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred 20:33 - Aug 9 with 7089 viewsPlankton

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo

Swift justice

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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 22:01 - Aug 14 with 987 viewsGwyn737

A worthwhile read:

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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 22:26 - Aug 14 with 941 viewsmajorraglan

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 22:01 - Aug 14 by Gwyn737

A worthwhile read:



Good post, a very insightful article. Thanks for sharing.
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 22:30 - Aug 14 with 929 viewscontroversial_jack

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 20:59 - Aug 14 by KeithHaynes

It’s like everything, getting away with one thing upsacles to the next level, get away with that and you have a person who throws bricks to injure people at the age of fifteen.

That’s how human behaviour of the less intelligent works.


I don't believe that. A shoplifter isn't going to turn into an armed robber. A drunk, isn't necessarily going to get into a car and drive while pissed. Someone who dodges a train fare isn't going to become an international fraudster

The more laws we have the more crime we will get.
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 21:17 - Aug 15 with 819 viewsAnotherJohn

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 22:30 - Aug 14 by controversial_jack

I don't believe that. A shoplifter isn't going to turn into an armed robber. A drunk, isn't necessarily going to get into a car and drive while pissed. Someone who dodges a train fare isn't going to become an international fraudster

The more laws we have the more crime we will get.


The latest development is a highly unusual step by the CPS in a case involving a 15 year old boy. He had pleaded guilty to violent disorder and burglary and was expecting to be sentenced. However, at that juncture the prosecution advised the court that it intended to pursue the more serious offence of riot. This could be the first case where that charge has been applied in relation to the recent disturbances. I don't know the full details of the case, but one's immediate thought is that this may be over the top for a minor of that age who has pleaded guilty to an initial charge.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33n73lr7npo
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 21:46 - Aug 15 with 799 viewsonehunglow

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 21:17 - Aug 15 by AnotherJohn

The latest development is a highly unusual step by the CPS in a case involving a 15 year old boy. He had pleaded guilty to violent disorder and burglary and was expecting to be sentenced. However, at that juncture the prosecution advised the court that it intended to pursue the more serious offence of riot. This could be the first case where that charge has been applied in relation to the recent disturbances. I don't know the full details of the case, but one's immediate thought is that this may be over the top for a minor of that age who has pleaded guilty to an initial charge.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33n73lr7npo


Nope.
15 is not a child apart from in law

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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 21:58 - Aug 15 with 785 viewsmajorraglan

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 21:17 - Aug 15 by AnotherJohn

The latest development is a highly unusual step by the CPS in a case involving a 15 year old boy. He had pleaded guilty to violent disorder and burglary and was expecting to be sentenced. However, at that juncture the prosecution advised the court that it intended to pursue the more serious offence of riot. This could be the first case where that charge has been applied in relation to the recent disturbances. I don't know the full details of the case, but one's immediate thought is that this may be over the top for a minor of that age who has pleaded guilty to an initial charge.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33n73lr7npo


It’s not necessarily over the top, it will all depend on the new evidence that’s come to light. We’ll need to sit tight and watch how this plays out in court.
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 06:44 - Aug 16 with 741 viewsAnotherJohn

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 21:58 - Aug 15 by majorraglan

It’s not necessarily over the top, it will all depend on the new evidence that’s come to light. We’ll need to sit tight and watch how this plays out in court.


I said "may" and put this out there to see what other people think. Yes, more information on the offences committed is needed. As another hypothesis for discussion: wouldn't the better strategy, if the CPS is going to use the charge of riot in the more serious cases, have been to charge an adult as the headline case.
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:05 - Aug 16 with 725 viewsonehunglow

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 06:44 - Aug 16 by AnotherJohn

I said "may" and put this out there to see what other people think. Yes, more information on the offences committed is needed. As another hypothesis for discussion: wouldn't the better strategy, if the CPS is going to use the charge of riot in the more serious cases, have been to charge an adult as the headline case.


It was a riot
12 persons
in concert
Violence
Public afraid

Not used enough


Political cowardice

We need to stop this and hammer those who riot on the day three young children are butchered to death .

Soon their deaths will be forgotten and the indignation will subside and his legal team will be doing everything they can to keep him in prison as short a time as possible or simply find a way to see him walk .

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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:12 - Aug 16 with 716 viewsKeithHaynes

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 22:30 - Aug 14 by controversial_jack

I don't believe that. A shoplifter isn't going to turn into an armed robber. A drunk, isn't necessarily going to get into a car and drive while pissed. Someone who dodges a train fare isn't going to become an international fraudster

The more laws we have the more crime we will get.


You haven’t had thirty plus years of experience watching just that happen.

I’ve seen a shoplifter with two offences turn into an international terrorist. And can you give you a thousand more examples. If people are bad they are bad. If you dodge train fares you are capable of any fraud that your intelligence enables you to do. Experience.

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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:17 - Aug 16 with 714 viewsonehunglow

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:12 - Aug 16 by KeithHaynes

You haven’t had thirty plus years of experience watching just that happen.

I’ve seen a shoplifter with two offences turn into an international terrorist. And can you give you a thousand more examples. If people are bad they are bad. If you dodge train fares you are capable of any fraud that your intelligence enables you to do. Experience.


I’m one of those ,rightly or wrongly,who believe some people are born bad. Whatever they do ,they will always sink into the pit ,no matter what.
Thankfully, they are @ minority .

Most criminals,no all criminals want police humiliated,beaten literally and / or shamed whenever possible. It’s because they cramp their criminal lifestyle . That simple . Any excuse .
Born to be Bad .
( sorry George)

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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 10:27 - Aug 16 with 677 viewscontroversial_jack

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:12 - Aug 16 by KeithHaynes

You haven’t had thirty plus years of experience watching just that happen.

I’ve seen a shoplifter with two offences turn into an international terrorist. And can you give you a thousand more examples. If people are bad they are bad. If you dodge train fares you are capable of any fraud that your intelligence enables you to do. Experience.


Why would a shoplifter become a terrorist? Where's the logic behind that, where's the link. If so it's totally unrelated to the offences

As Stalin's henchman Beria stated, " show me the man , and i'll show you the crime."

Anyone can be fitted up to any crime. There is so much legislation that every person has broken the law at some time - usually unwittingly, but that doesn't mean they will transform into serial killers or international terrorists or society would be in deep doo doo
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 10:33 - Aug 16 with 663 viewsraynor94

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 10:27 - Aug 16 by controversial_jack

Why would a shoplifter become a terrorist? Where's the logic behind that, where's the link. If so it's totally unrelated to the offences

As Stalin's henchman Beria stated, " show me the man , and i'll show you the crime."

Anyone can be fitted up to any crime. There is so much legislation that every person has broken the law at some time - usually unwittingly, but that doesn't mean they will transform into serial killers or international terrorists or society would be in deep doo doo


Freedom of the Land

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 12:10 - Aug 16 with 616 viewsAnotherJohn

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 10:33 - Aug 16 by raynor94

Freedom of the Land


Had me stumped for a moment. Could this be the Freeman on the land movement (FOTL) a loose group of conspiracy theorists?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land_movement
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 12:35 - Aug 16 with 605 viewscontroversial_jack

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 10:33 - Aug 16 by raynor94

Freedom of the Land


Another flippant remark. Try contributing for once
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 12:38 - Aug 16 with 605 viewsraynor94

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 12:10 - Aug 16 by AnotherJohn

Had me stumped for a moment. Could this be the Freeman on the land movement (FOTL) a loose group of conspiracy theorists?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land_movement


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You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 12:56 - Aug 16 with 582 viewsmajorraglan

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 12:10 - Aug 16 by AnotherJohn

Had me stumped for a moment. Could this be the Freeman on the land movement (FOTL) a loose group of conspiracy theorists?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land_movement


I’ve had a few dealings with these in my time, every one was a beaut.
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 22:03 - Aug 16 with 509 viewsmajorraglan

Several stiff sentences handed out today with 2 guys who were found guilty of attacking 3 innocent guys in a car being handed 6 years and 5 years, 8 month sentences respectively.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ydp4wg9pjo
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 22:33 - Aug 16 with 493 viewsonehunglow

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 22:03 - Aug 16 by majorraglan

Several stiff sentences handed out today with 2 guys who were found guilty of attacking 3 innocent guys in a car being handed 6 years and 5 years, 8 month sentences respectively.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ydp4wg9pjo


If they served that full term,it would be ok.
But they won’t .40% now thanks to Starmer

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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 00:28 - Aug 17 with 450 viewsmajorraglan

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 22:33 - Aug 16 by onehunglow

If they served that full term,it would be ok.
But they won’t .40% now thanks to Starmer


I think you can thank the previous government for that. They failed to increase capacity to keep pace with demand and it was they who started the 40% reduction.
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 01:15 - Aug 17 with 446 viewsRobbie

Problem would be posting stuff on tinternet will be taken seriously by others who never leave their back bedrooms , eyes glued to the nonsense in front of them .

Racial hatred does not start in many mosques , St. Helens Rd. seems ok to me there .
Cannot speak for other parts of the UK of course .

Social media can be a benefit , anybody seen my cat get in touch asap , pic here .

Internet , got to love it .
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:17 - Aug 17 with 388 viewsonehunglow

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 00:28 - Aug 17 by majorraglan

I think you can thank the previous government for that. They failed to increase capacity to keep pace with demand and it was they who started the 40% reduction.


It’s been implemented by Starmer
If yiu think it’s justice to have a criminal serve less that half a sentence handed down then that’s your view.
Mine is that all prisoners serve ALL their sentence .
Hence,somebody butchering some poor bugger who get 20 years ,serves 20 yrs .

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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:19 - Aug 17 with 388 viewsAnotherJohn

I'm still wondering if the 53 year old suburban housewife who made the stupid remark about blowing up the mosque on Facebook, resulting in an accelerated court appearance and a 15 months jail sentence, is in a higher risk category than others who are let out on bail. Some commentators are comparing her case with that of a known Islamist activist from Leicester bailed yesterday at the Old Bailey.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/man-appears-in-court-on-terror-charges-over
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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:21 - Aug 17 with 387 viewsBoundy

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:12 - Aug 16 by KeithHaynes

You haven’t had thirty plus years of experience watching just that happen.

I’ve seen a shoplifter with two offences turn into an international terrorist. And can you give you a thousand more examples. If people are bad they are bad. If you dodge train fares you are capable of any fraud that your intelligence enables you to do. Experience.


If you remember in the New York in the 90s when crime was pretty bad they had a Mayor the now much maligned Giuliani who had a policy which had his police force treat even the most so called petty crime as serious as they would any other. Crime rate overall fell dramatically with many studies carried out to confirm why this would be and which confirmed it was true in that reducing petty crime reduces serious crime.
I believe someone posted that there is no correlation between petty and serious crime then I suggest he do a little research , Drug use for example , start off with smoking blow sometimes leads to sniffing then injecting , all of which costs money to obtain and to supply.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:23 - Aug 17 with 387 viewsonehunglow

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:19 - Aug 17 by AnotherJohn

I'm still wondering if the 53 year old suburban housewife who made the stupid remark about blowing up the mosque on Facebook, resulting in an accelerated court appearance and a 15 months jail sentence, is in a higher risk category than others who are let out on bail. Some commentators are comparing her case with that of a known Islamist activist from Leicester bailed yesterday at the Old Bailey.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/man-appears-in-court-on-terror-charges-over


It could be a political decision.
It’s rather sinister
This is a bored female no mark in leafy Cheshire

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Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:38 - Aug 17 with 382 viewsBoundy

Criminals jailed for inciting racial hatred on 08:19 - Aug 17 by AnotherJohn

I'm still wondering if the 53 year old suburban housewife who made the stupid remark about blowing up the mosque on Facebook, resulting in an accelerated court appearance and a 15 months jail sentence, is in a higher risk category than others who are let out on bail. Some commentators are comparing her case with that of a known Islamist activist from Leicester bailed yesterday at the Old Bailey.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/man-appears-in-court-on-terror-charges-over


Not only Two Tier policing but two tier justice , we're doomed.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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