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Sunderland support 21:51 - Jan 14 with 2171 viewsguthrieintherain

Over 40,000 there today.
Incredible support fairplay.

And the population is only 30,000 more than Swansea.

Season tickets cost more as well.

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Sunderland support on 22:04 - Jan 14 with 2140 viewslifelong

I reckon there were about 4,000 there 20 minutes before the end.
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Sunderland support on 22:14 - Jan 14 with 2106 viewsbuilthjack

Shame that 39800 of them were mute.

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Sunderland support on 22:22 - Jan 14 with 2087 viewsguthrieintherain

Sunderland support on 22:14 - Jan 14 by builthjack

Shame that 39800 of them were mute.


10,000 more than SheffUtd for this season who are 2nd in the league.

The North East has always been fanatical for football Boro well supported as well.
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Sunderland support on 22:32 - Jan 14 with 2065 viewsfelixstowe_jack

You can't really compare the population of the two.
Population of Sunderland City is 277,000 covering 137sq km while the population of Sunderland metropolitan area is 344,000.
Population of the county of Swansea is 264,000 covering an area of 380 sq km. The population of the actual city of Swansea, without the Gower, Gowerton and Gorseinon is 170,000.

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Sunderland support on 08:39 - Jan 15 with 1956 views1983

Over 40,000 there today.
Incredible support fairplay.

And the population is only 30,000 more than Swansea.

Season tickets cost more as well.

........But lets be fair what else is there to do up there !
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Sunderland support on 09:18 - Jan 15 with 1931 viewsonehunglow

Sunderland support on 08:39 - Jan 15 by 1983

Over 40,000 there today.
Incredible support fairplay.

And the population is only 30,000 more than Swansea.

Season tickets cost more as well.

........But lets be fair what else is there to do up there !
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Yiu need to brush up on your geography.
Durham and Northumberland are fantastic regions

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Sunderland support on 09:35 - Jan 15 with 1911 viewsKeithHaynes

Back to football.

Swans fans on Wearside yesterday.


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Sunderland support on 09:40 - Jan 15 with 1900 viewsbuilthjack

Amazing support

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Sunderland support on 10:07 - Jan 15 with 1869 viewsKilkennyjack

Sunderland support on 22:32 - Jan 14 by felixstowe_jack

You can't really compare the population of the two.
Population of Sunderland City is 277,000 covering 137sq km while the population of Sunderland metropolitan area is 344,000.
Population of the county of Swansea is 264,000 covering an area of 380 sq km. The population of the actual city of Swansea, without the Gower, Gowerton and Gorseinon is 170,000.


Why would you choose to exclude Gower, Gorseinon, and Gowerton…?

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Sunderland support on 10:25 - Jan 15 with 1839 views1983

Sunderland support on 09:35 - Jan 15 by KeithHaynes

Back to football.

Swans fans on Wearside yesterday.



Looks like the liberty circa 2018 ?


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Sunderland support on 10:26 - Jan 15 with 1843 viewsKeithHaynes

I think people need to understand that the swans support is drawn from areas far away from the area in Wales, and beyond. The populous has little to do with it, Burnley and Blackburn are examples. A successful side ( Sunderland fans see their side positively ) will see more people watch them.

They have a ground that aspires to that as well, Swansea were limited in their thought process when the liberty was built. Another example maybe of a parochial view which was tinged in negativity at the time, much reflected on here at times despite other obvious evidence.

At the clubs height around eight or so years ago the Liberty could have sold out twice over. That’s a fact. The attendances at Wembley remain the best a Welsh side has taken to the ground. It’s all relative.

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Sunderland support on 14:09 - Jan 15 with 1758 viewsguthrieintherain

Sunderland support on 10:26 - Jan 15 by KeithHaynes

I think people need to understand that the swans support is drawn from areas far away from the area in Wales, and beyond. The populous has little to do with it, Burnley and Blackburn are examples. A successful side ( Sunderland fans see their side positively ) will see more people watch them.

They have a ground that aspires to that as well, Swansea were limited in their thought process when the liberty was built. Another example maybe of a parochial view which was tinged in negativity at the time, much reflected on here at times despite other obvious evidence.

At the clubs height around eight or so years ago the Liberty could have sold out twice over. That’s a fact. The attendances at Wembley remain the best a Welsh side has taken to the ground. It’s all relative.


Just to clarify wasn't having a pop at our support.

Was just commenting on the crowd 2nd biggest in the country including the PL some get very defensive when complimenting other clubs.

40,000 is very impressive for a mid table Championship club.

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Sunderland support on 14:11 - Jan 15 with 1754 viewsonehunglow

Sunderland support on 10:26 - Jan 15 by KeithHaynes

I think people need to understand that the swans support is drawn from areas far away from the area in Wales, and beyond. The populous has little to do with it, Burnley and Blackburn are examples. A successful side ( Sunderland fans see their side positively ) will see more people watch them.

They have a ground that aspires to that as well, Swansea were limited in their thought process when the liberty was built. Another example maybe of a parochial view which was tinged in negativity at the time, much reflected on here at times despite other obvious evidence.

At the clubs height around eight or so years ago the Liberty could have sold out twice over. That’s a fact. The attendances at Wembley remain the best a Welsh side has taken to the ground. It’s all relative.


Which raises the old thorny question of why the stadium wasn’t expanded . Swansea has massive potential still.

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Sunderland support on 15:22 - Jan 15 with 1693 viewsEagleEye

Sunderland support on 14:11 - Jan 15 by onehunglow

Which raises the old thorny question of why the stadium wasn’t expanded . Swansea has massive potential still.


Our average crowd this season is around 17k give or take, we don’t need a bigger stadium. In our last 2 seasons in the PL there was never an issue getting tickets. When we played Spurs in the quarter final of the FA Cup their fans sang ‘your grounds too big for you’ due to the number of empty seats
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Sunderland support on 15:30 - Jan 15 with 1683 viewsonehunglow

Sunderland support on 15:22 - Jan 15 by EagleEye

Our average crowd this season is around 17k give or take, we don’t need a bigger stadium. In our last 2 seasons in the PL there was never an issue getting tickets. When we played Spurs in the quarter final of the FA Cup their fans sang ‘your grounds too big for you’ due to the number of empty seats


Thanks.
I simply do not agree

We had crowds of over 25 000 regularly at the Vetch in the 50s.

A Swansea is not a small town

Nobody could ever convince me that a 30000 capacity ground was no appropriate . We could even tout for Wales games instead of every game going to the massive Cardiff city Lego stade de shyte.

My point is the club was not marketed properly. We have kids all over south Wales looking for a successful Prem League club to support . Sadly,too many suppor5 brand name clubs now

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Sunderland support on 15:43 - Jan 15 with 1674 viewsEagleEye

Sunderland support on 15:30 - Jan 15 by onehunglow

Thanks.
I simply do not agree

We had crowds of over 25 000 regularly at the Vetch in the 50s.

A Swansea is not a small town

Nobody could ever convince me that a 30000 capacity ground was no appropriate . We could even tout for Wales games instead of every game going to the massive Cardiff city Lego stade de shyte.

My point is the club was not marketed properly. We have kids all over south Wales looking for a successful Prem League club to support . Sadly,too many suppor5 brand name clubs now


We shall have to agree to disagree on this one. We are agreed on the poor marketing though.

My fear with having a much bigger stadium is that the atmosphere could end up being a bit like the CCS. I also think season ticket sales are going drop off somewhat for next season due to cost of living squeeze and some of the boring football on offer for too many games
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Sunderland support on 15:52 - Jan 15 with 1653 viewsKeithHaynes

Sunderland support on 15:43 - Jan 15 by EagleEye

We shall have to agree to disagree on this one. We are agreed on the poor marketing though.

My fear with having a much bigger stadium is that the atmosphere could end up being a bit like the CCS. I also think season ticket sales are going drop off somewhat for next season due to cost of living squeeze and some of the boring football on offer for too many games


I’m not sure what the numbers are this season compared to last season. But the away support is as fervent as it has been for years. I think a ground of around 26k as was on offer would have worked really well.

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Sunderland support on 16:02 - Jan 15 with 1637 viewsonehunglow

Sunderland support on 15:43 - Jan 15 by EagleEye

We shall have to agree to disagree on this one. We are agreed on the poor marketing though.

My fear with having a much bigger stadium is that the atmosphere could end up being a bit like the CCS. I also think season ticket sales are going drop off somewhat for next season due to cost of living squeeze and some of the boring football on offer for too many games


No problems
You made 5ur point fairly and with respect
I like that

I had huge dreams for the Swans . You got to have dreams

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Sunderland support on 16:04 - Jan 15 with 1636 viewsNotLoyal

Sunderland support on 16:02 - Jan 15 by onehunglow

No problems
You made 5ur point fairly and with respect
I like that

I had huge dreams for the Swans . You got to have dreams


You’ve lived the dream now it’s time to deal with what we have and maybe the dream will be lived again.

OK I've changed it.
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Sunderland support on 16:07 - Jan 15 with 1624 viewsEagleEye

Sunderland support on 15:52 - Jan 15 by KeithHaynes

I’m not sure what the numbers are this season compared to last season. But the away support is as fervent as it has been for years. I think a ground of around 26k as was on offer would have worked really well.


The cost of construction for even an additional 5-6k is prohibitive. That ship has sailed for a while. It would take several seasons of capacity crowds for return on investment. Can’t see anyone gambling on that when even basic contract renewals are being rejected by so many players.

Away support has been terrific as it has been for the last 20+ years. Shepherds Bush Green is going to be lively on Saturday, loves a London trip
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Sunderland support on 16:12 - Jan 15 with 1603 viewsKeithHaynes

Sunderland support on 16:07 - Jan 15 by EagleEye

The cost of construction for even an additional 5-6k is prohibitive. That ship has sailed for a while. It would take several seasons of capacity crowds for return on investment. Can’t see anyone gambling on that when even basic contract renewals are being rejected by so many players.

Away support has been terrific as it has been for the last 20+ years. Shepherds Bush Green is going to be lively on Saturday, loves a London trip


I’m referencing more about when the opportunity was there initially

Next Saturday ? I’m almost thinking it could be a goer.

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Sunderland support on 16:32 - Jan 15 with 1565 viewsPaxton

I think their full season ticket price isnt much more than the Swans. Although they do have a very attractive pricing for under 18 & under 22 Season Tickets being around £96 & £165 respectively. I believe these options are very well subscribed. They do have a near 49,000 stadium to fill and I believe they use other incentives too. Saying that, it is great support from a historically well supported club.
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Sunderland support on 16:42 - Jan 15 with 1545 viewsguthrieintherain

Sunderland support on 08:39 - Jan 15 by 1983

Over 40,000 there today.
Incredible support fairplay.

And the population is only 30,000 more than Swansea.

Season tickets cost more as well.

........But lets be fair what else is there to do up there !
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Plenty actually the North East is very much like South Wales.

Relies on heavy industry for employment.
Hard working and very friendly people.

Some stunning beaches and countryside give me that over Birmingham or London any day of the week.
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