| RMT 18:54 - Jun 15 with 16060 views | CountyJim |
Good on you lads power to the people power to the Unions 
They asked the government to sit down and talk but oh no I expect Boris having another party |  | | |  |
| RMT on 22:09 - Jun 26 with 1542 views | trampie |
I keep thinking when I initially see RMT that it is a 'Rate My Team' thread, too much fantasy football.  |  |
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| RMT on 06:31 - Jun 27 with 1478 views | felixstowe_jack |
| RMT on 19:21 - Jun 26 by jack_lord |
Thats one of my issues Keith.
Not one day off for me nor my wife and now there seems to be a queue of people wanting to push the button. Many, many industries and firms were helped to survive thanks to the furlough scheme (traditionally not a Conservative thing so well done to the government) and now millions want to get more money because they have to, god forbid, go to work.
I understand that there is a course, a cost of living crisis but to start throwing toys out of the pram this quickly is a bit rich.
To be fair though, the RMT workers have a rough deal and aren't there just because they want more money. |
Correct it is not about money Mr Lynch is very well paid but sees himself as a modern day Scargill try to bring down an elected government. He is more than happy to sacrifice his members jobs to achieve this. Rail passengers numbers are still only 50% of prepandemic numbers and if the Unions continue to drive passengers away jobs will be lost. |  |
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| RMT on 06:34 - Jun 27 with 1478 views | felixstowe_jack |
| RMT on 10:12 - Jun 26 by Brynmill_Jack |
Whoop whoop!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
They must be a pretty sh*t and inefficient private company if they can’t make money that’s practically handed straight to them by the government.
What was it you said that nationalization of the railways would be a bad thing again Felix? |
Have you not noticed there was a two year pandemic with virtually no one using the railway no wonder they made a loss.
The £16 billion was to keep the railway workers in job or on furlough rather than lay them off. | |
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| RMT on 08:36 - Jun 27 with 1434 views | majorraglan |
| RMT on 06:31 - Jun 27 by felixstowe_jack |
Correct it is not about money Mr Lynch is very well paid but sees himself as a modern day Scargill try to bring down an elected government. He is more than happy to sacrifice his members jobs to achieve this. Rail passengers numbers are still only 50% of prepandemic numbers and if the Unions continue to drive passengers away jobs will be lost. |
Lynch is not trying to bring down a democratically elected, he’s trying to get his members a decent pay rise and doing what they’ve asked him to do. | | | |
| RMT on 09:00 - Jun 27 with 1428 views | felixstowe_jack |
| RMT on 08:36 - Jun 27 by majorraglan |
Lynch is not trying to bring down a democratically elected, he’s trying to get his members a decent pay rise and doing what they’ve asked him to do. |
Can I ask you who is going to pay for this greedy pay rise?
The UK taxpayers who have already given them £16 billion, plus £600 in electricity rebates to each RMT household, plus the NI decrease from 1st July.
The loss making Railway companies.
The Travelling public and commuters through even higher rail fares. | |
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| RMT on 12:03 - Jun 27 with 1399 views | Catullus |
During these strikes many people have made other arrangements. There was a massive rise in the hiring of ebikes and escooters, car sharing apparently increased too.
Now what if these strikes turn people away from the trains for good, what if they actually cut their own throats? What if people discover that the things I mentioned are better for their wallets and theur health? What if they never go back to trains and the whole sector nosedives?
Part of the reason I went off strike action was, after having been out on strike with Royal Mail (and despite the fact we seemed to have public support in the face of really crappy behaviour by Leighton and dickwad Adam Crozier) it actually cost Royal mail business. Companies large and small went over to using more email, they started using other couriers, there was already a year on year fall in people sending letters and it dropped even more after the strike action although there was a big rise in the so called "Junk mail" which doesn't make the profits a first class stamp does, or it didn't used to. In the end our strike hurt us posties but our union leaders didn't lose a penny and the big bosses still got their massive pay and bonuses. Adam Crozier had made a big mess the the English FA but still got given the job at Royal mail by his buddy Allan Leighton, he spent 7 years steering us into a crisis which involved the subpostmasters scandal too,
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/aug/19/new-bt-chair-left-a-trail-of-wreck
then he went on to be the Chair at BT. No amount of failure stopped him from being given new, very well paid jobs. failure really is no obstacle to these people, it's ultimate cronyism.
Strikes are a relic, a dinosaur and might well do more harm than good. | |
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| RMT on 13:50 - Jun 27 with 1362 views | majorraglan |
| RMT on 09:00 - Jun 27 by felixstowe_jack |
Can I ask you who is going to pay for this greedy pay rise?
The UK taxpayers who have already given them £16 billion, plus £600 in electricity rebates to each RMT household, plus the NI decrease from 1st July.
The loss making Railway companies.
The Travelling public and commuters through even higher rail fares. |
Ticket prices are going up via RPI and have done for years.
Lots of the railway companies are making profits and they've done so for years, if they can pay dividends they can pay decent pay rises.
The NI rate increased by 1.25% earlier this year, the increased allowance will mean someone on £20k per year will be £178 better off but anyone earning £34k or above is still going to be worse off. | | | |
| RMT on 18:34 - Jun 27 with 1333 views | Catullus |
| RMT on 13:50 - Jun 27 by majorraglan |
Ticket prices are going up via RPI and have done for years.
Lots of the railway companies are making profits and they've done so for years, if they can pay dividends they can pay decent pay rises.
The NI rate increased by 1.25% earlier this year, the increased allowance will mean someone on £20k per year will be £178 better off but anyone earning £34k or above is still going to be worse off. |
it's another of a long list of practiclly criminal government decisions, prices rise by RPI when pensions and benefits (and often wage rises) are linked to CPI. We fall further and further behind while big business rakes it in.
Maybe that's the answer to nationalsisation, make the workers shareholders in the business, instead of big dividends going to the rich shareholders, give them as bonuses to the workers at pro rata, give them annual statements with the bonus being paid out on leaving the business. Would that focus workers on providing a great service and less worrying about striking?
Last year Royal mail announced profits of 726 million, imagine if half of that went into a dividend fund for all the workers? They'd need money to invest in services.obviously. | |
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| RMT on 19:08 - Jun 27 with 1304 views | jack_lord |
| RMT on 09:00 - Jun 27 by felixstowe_jack |
Can I ask you who is going to pay for this greedy pay rise?
The UK taxpayers who have already given them £16 billion, plus £600 in electricity rebates to each RMT household, plus the NI decrease from 1st July.
The loss making Railway companies.
The Travelling public and commuters through even higher rail fares. |
I'm not being impertinent.
I'll start with one question. Why do you think they are being greedy? |  |
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| RMT on 19:13 - Jun 27 with 1303 views | felixstowe_jack |
| RMT on 18:34 - Jun 27 by Catullus |
it's another of a long list of practiclly criminal government decisions, prices rise by RPI when pensions and benefits (and often wage rises) are linked to CPI. We fall further and further behind while big business rakes it in.
Maybe that's the answer to nationalsisation, make the workers shareholders in the business, instead of big dividends going to the rich shareholders, give them as bonuses to the workers at pro rata, give them annual statements with the bonus being paid out on leaving the business. Would that focus workers on providing a great service and less worrying about striking?
Last year Royal mail announced profits of 726 million, imagine if half of that went into a dividend fund for all the workers? They'd need money to invest in services.obviously. |
Even in profitable years the railway companies are only allowed a 2% profit on revenues hardly vast payouts.
Meanwhile the rail unions fight any new safety innovations
The lastest safety scheme vetoed by the unions
Remote sensors that warn if an embankment is in danger of collapse.
Drones and trackside sensors that detect damage from a safe distance .
This would make the railways safer and prevent union members being killed.
Instead the unions insist on 19th century practices where staff walk along the track every night trying to spot faults. | |
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| RMT on 19:55 - Jun 27 with 1287 views | 1983 |
The reason the government threw Gazillions of pounds at the railway companies during covid was because they knew the rail companies could have just handed the keys back at any time and washed their hands of it leaving the government in a right mess
Win Win |  |
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| RMT on 21:28 - Jun 27 with 1250 views | KeithHaynes |
| RMT on 19:55 - Jun 27 by 1983 |
The reason the government threw Gazillions of pounds at the railway companies during covid was because they knew the rail companies could have just handed the keys back at any time and washed their hands of it leaving the government in a right mess
Win Win |
With few trains running they couldn’t lose 😉 |  |
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| RMT on 21:45 - Jun 27 with 1222 views | BryanSwan |
It seems the Tories are using these strikes to continue their standard dictatorial practices by proposing to scrap the Senedds Trade Union Act.
It's almost as if the Tories are actively campaigning for Welsh independence. | |
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| RMT on 22:11 - Jun 27 with 1197 views | trampie |
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| RMT on 09:54 - Jun 28 with 1145 views | 1983 |
| RMT on 19:13 - Jun 27 by felixstowe_jack |
Even in profitable years the railway companies are only allowed a 2% profit on revenues hardly vast payouts.
Meanwhile the rail unions fight any new safety innovations
The lastest safety scheme vetoed by the unions
Remote sensors that warn if an embankment is in danger of collapse.
Drones and trackside sensors that detect damage from a safe distance .
This would make the railways safer and prevent union members being killed.
Instead the unions insist on 19th century practices where staff walk along the track every night trying to spot faults. |
Yeah all the Train Operating Companies do it out of the goodness of their hearts.....
Off peak promotional tickets the TOC keeps all that revenue
Car Parks all the revenue from car parks go's to that TOC who owns that car park, our car park has 1,000 spaces at £10 a day Tue, Wed, Thu you can't get a fag paper in there by 8am.
Stations that have Costa, WH Smith, Mc'Ds , M&S....etc pays that TOC ridiculous amount of rent to be there.
On board catering your £5 cheese sandwich the TOC keeps that.
The list goes on...... | |
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| RMT on 13:23 - Jun 28 with 1090 views | controversial_jack |
| RMT on 21:45 - Jun 27 by BryanSwan |
It seems the Tories are using these strikes to continue their standard dictatorial practices by proposing to scrap the Senedds Trade Union Act.
It's almost as if the Tories are actively campaigning for Welsh independence. |
One of the first things Hitler did was to outlaw trade unions | | | |
| RMT on 15:47 - Jun 28 with 1061 views | waynekerr55 |
| RMT on 09:00 - Jun 27 by felixstowe_jack |
Can I ask you who is going to pay for this greedy pay rise?
The UK taxpayers who have already given them £16 billion, plus £600 in electricity rebates to each RMT household, plus the NI decrease from 1st July.
The loss making Railway companies.
The Travelling public and commuters through even higher rail fares. |
Maybe the whole farce of partial privatisation of the operators needs looking at |  |
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| RMT on 18:27 - Jun 28 with 1020 views | GixerJack |
| RMT on 19:13 - Jun 27 by felixstowe_jack |
Even in profitable years the railway companies are only allowed a 2% profit on revenues hardly vast payouts.
Meanwhile the rail unions fight any new safety innovations
The lastest safety scheme vetoed by the unions
Remote sensors that warn if an embankment is in danger of collapse.
Drones and trackside sensors that detect damage from a safe distance .
This would make the railways safer and prevent union members being killed.
Instead the unions insist on 19th century practices where staff walk along the track every night trying to spot faults. |
This statement is incorrect, remote condition monitoring is used extensively on the modern railway. Also in my experience correctly thought through innovation which improves safety is welcomed by the industry’s trade unions. |  | | |
| RMT on 09:22 - Jun 29 with 957 views | felixstowe_jack |
| RMT on 18:27 - Jun 28 by GixerJack |
This statement is incorrect, remote condition monitoring is used extensively on the modern railway. Also in my experience correctly thought through innovation which improves safety is welcomed by the industry’s trade unions. |
The railways working practices are stuck in the mid 20th century and always have been. The RMT are only interested in changes that boost their pay rather than safety. Only last year during the storms I reported a tree that had fallen and was only held up by the surrounding trees. It took network rail three hours to cut in down with a crew of 10 arriving in two large lorries. The job could easily have been done by a two man crew with a safety manager. For most of the three hours they just sat around in my garden next to the railway line while it took two hours to close a single track freight line which only has two trains an hour . | |
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| RMT on 10:55 - Jun 29 with 927 views | jack_lord |
| RMT on 09:22 - Jun 29 by felixstowe_jack |
The railways working practices are stuck in the mid 20th century and always have been. The RMT are only interested in changes that boost their pay rather than safety. Only last year during the storms I reported a tree that had fallen and was only held up by the surrounding trees. It took network rail three hours to cut in down with a crew of 10 arriving in two large lorries. The job could easily have been done by a two man crew with a safety manager. For most of the three hours they just sat around in my garden next to the railway line while it took two hours to close a single track freight line which only has two trains an hour . |
That sounds like a 21st century working practice where health and safety has gone mad. | |
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| RMT on 12:08 - Jun 29 with 915 views | GixerJack |
| RMT on 09:22 - Jun 29 by felixstowe_jack |
The railways working practices are stuck in the mid 20th century and always have been. The RMT are only interested in changes that boost their pay rather than safety. Only last year during the storms I reported a tree that had fallen and was only held up by the surrounding trees. It took network rail three hours to cut in down with a crew of 10 arriving in two large lorries. The job could easily have been done by a two man crew with a safety manager. For most of the three hours they just sat around in my garden next to the railway line while it took two hours to close a single track freight line which only has two trains an hour . |
Surely a single line with 2 freight trains an hour would have been pretty low priority. From what I remember the storms last year caused quite a bit of damage to the railway infrastructure and the teams looking after it are quite small. The day to day job for these teams is undertaking maintenance with attending faults and failures having to be fitted in between. | | | |
| RMT on 21:14 - Jun 29 with 877 views | Catullus |
| RMT on 19:13 - Jun 27 by felixstowe_jack |
Even in profitable years the railway companies are only allowed a 2% profit on revenues hardly vast payouts.
Meanwhile the rail unions fight any new safety innovations
The lastest safety scheme vetoed by the unions
Remote sensors that warn if an embankment is in danger of collapse.
Drones and trackside sensors that detect damage from a safe distance .
This would make the railways safer and prevent union members being killed.
Instead the unions insist on 19th century practices where staff walk along the track every night trying to spot faults. |
profits come after pay is taken out though so, the CEO and his board could give themselves massive bonuses just to stay inside that 2% rule. Can you see the flaw? They don't put that money aside for a workers fund, they take it for themselves as bosses have nearly always done. | |
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| RMT on 22:06 - Jun 30 with 809 views | Kilkennyjack |
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| RMT on 05:48 - Jul 1 with 784 views | felixstowe_jack |
| RMT on 21:14 - Jun 29 by Catullus |
profits come after pay is taken out though so, the CEO and his board could give themselves massive bonuses just to stay inside that 2% rule. Can you see the flaw? They don't put that money aside for a workers fund, they take it for themselves as bosses have nearly always done. |
The ceo pay is a tiny fraction of their profits they made in their profitable years. They have not made any profits in the last two years even with the £16 billion tax payers subsidy to keep railway working in a job.
The £150,000 remuneration package that Mick Lynch receives is a tiny fraction of the RMT £60 million assets. | |
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| RMT on 22:22 - Jul 6 with 708 views | Kilkennyjack |
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