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England and racism again 02:33 - Sep 3 with 3294 viewsKeithHaynes

Another successful night for the English in Hungary, but the same old Eastern European rubbish.

Just ban them, deal with it.

Harry Kane on the racist chants aimed at England players: “I didn’t hear that. I will talk to the boys and see if they heard any of it. We will have to report it to Uefa as the rules permit. If that is the case, hopefully Uefa come down strong.”

Karen Carney on BBC Radio 5 Live: “Shocking scenes again, it is unnecessary from the fans.

“As soon as Raheem Sterling scored I thought ‘here we go again’. You knew something was going to happen. It is beyond a joke now.

“The governing bodies have to be consistent and they have to group together and eradicate it. It is not on, it is not good enough.

“Disappointing but credit to the England players for being professional and getting the job done but they shouldn’t have to go through that.

“It is a joke.”



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England and racism again on 18:51 - Sep 3 with 984 viewsKeithHaynes

England and racism again on 18:07 - Sep 3 by Catullus

I think he's right this time, the way the English fans treated their own players was despicable. There should have been action taken.

Most football fans won't agree with what happened but any English fans identified after the abuse Saka and the others took should get a lifetime ban.

I still disagree with him that sheep noises or being called sheep botherers is racist.


I recall well the goal John Barnes scored against Brasil, that wonder goal.
England fans on the way back telling national newspaper reporters they refused to recognise his goal because of his colour.

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England and racism again on 18:57 - Sep 3 with 968 viewsReslovenSwan1

England and racism again on 18:51 - Sep 3 by ReslovenSwan1

I consider Celtic a race. A branch of the Indo European race. So do the courts. Welsh are less Celtic than Scots and Irish admittedly through years of integration and industrialisation. we have however kept our identity and culture to a certain degree.

""In Prestatyn, Wales, the phrase was the subject of a 2013 court case, after Anthony Taaffe of Bolton, Greater Manchester, England, a guest at a holiday park in Gronant, called an off-duty policeman and security staff "a bunch of sheep-shaggers". Taaffe claimed, in his defence, that the phrase was "a term for people living in the countryside". He also admitted a second similar offence, in which he called a police officer, at the custody unit to which he had been taken, a "Welsh sheep shagger". Taaffe was fined £150 after he admitted racially aggravated disorderly behaviour. ""

As I say probably at the lower end of the racialist spectrum.

Note the word 'racially'. Some would call this "being not very nice". That is not a crime. DNA analysis shows many indigenous UK people have Celtic genes. They called Irish Scottish Welsh.


This looks like the same fellow. Same name in Bolton. Came to a sticky end

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/15629593.inquest-at-bolton-coroners-court-f

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England and racism again on 19:01 - Sep 3 with 967 viewsGwyn737

England and racism again on 18:57 - Sep 3 by ReslovenSwan1

This looks like the same fellow. Same name in Bolton. Came to a sticky end

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/15629593.inquest-at-bolton-coroners-court-f


If the officer had red/light hair and brown green eyes then it would fit your definition, I agree.
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England and racism again on 19:31 - Sep 3 with 944 viewsonehunglow

England and racism again on 18:35 - Sep 3 by Gwyn737

Anti Welsh abuse is xenaphobia, not racism.

Otherwise you discount all Welsh that don’t share the features you’ve highlighted.


I had all Welsh parents.
My kid are born English as is my wife
Nobody is going to tell me they are genetically different to me.
This is surreal folks.

England and UK has moved on -aint perfect -but the likes of Hungary clearly have not. In fact Serbs worse. Imagine a black Serbian No 9.

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England and racism again on 19:56 - Sep 3 with 942 viewsJack59

England and racism again on 15:49 - Sep 3 by Whiterockin

Not long after Stirling scored. They went to a ITV "colleague" sitting in the stand behind the goal. He said he could clearly hear it.


It's at least twenty years since you could trust the media about anything. They are by far the biggest problem this country has. They love 'fanning the flames' and if there are no flames, they know how to throw a few sparks in. It's great business for them.
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England and racism again on 20:27 - Sep 3 with 914 views1983

England and racism again on 08:59 - Sep 3 by Badlands

How quickly we forget the scenes at Wembley on Euro final day.


Always the victims


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England and racism again on 21:23 - Sep 3 with 885 viewsKilkennyjack

If its proven, then ban the country from international football for 5 years.

Play nicely or dont play at all.

England and English teams were rightly banned iin the past.

Other fans will ensure there is no repeat.

Talk is cheap, proper action is needed for this now.

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England and racism again on 21:44 - Sep 3 with 875 viewsbuilthjack

England and racism again on 18:51 - Sep 3 by KeithHaynes

I recall well the goal John Barnes scored against Brasil, that wonder goal.
England fans on the way back telling national newspaper reporters they refused to recognise his goal because of his colour.


That was awful for John Barnes.

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England and racism again on 21:52 - Sep 3 with 870 viewsmax936

England and racism again on 21:44 - Sep 3 by builthjack

That was awful for John Barnes.


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England and racism again on 22:42 - Sep 3 with 839 viewsKilkennyjack

England and racism again on 21:52 - Sep 3 by max936

What a Player and Legend.


Yes - an outstanding talent.

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England and racism again on 00:27 - Sep 4 with 825 viewsAjack_Kerouac

England and racism again on 15:27 - Sep 3 by Badlands

Maybe the Hungarians used Hungarian!
Orthodox Christian churches in the Eastern bloc fuel hatred of everything and anything slightly of their comfort zone and supports state oppression.


Wrong.

The countries of Eastern Europe are backwards on race because they don't have many citizens from different ethnic backgrounds...in much the same way as the Chinese are backwards on race.

They don't have people from different ethnic backgrounds because they haven't had much immigration.
They haven't had much immigration because they had unsuccessful economies that did not create wealth and jobs.

Eastern Europe was retarded by Socialist ideology...over decades.
The racism is just one of many ways that they are behind 'the West' as a result.

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England and racism again on 01:25 - Sep 4 with 810 viewsswan65split

I am not a fan of Sterling , but fair doos to him not reacting in the clip i seen on the news,

Kane also trying ti get the players to not react, though I believe they should have walked off.
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England and racism again on 02:35 - Sep 4 with 800 viewsFireboy2

England and racism again on 00:27 - Sep 4 by Ajack_Kerouac

Wrong.

The countries of Eastern Europe are backwards on race because they don't have many citizens from different ethnic backgrounds...in much the same way as the Chinese are backwards on race.

They don't have people from different ethnic backgrounds because they haven't had much immigration.
They haven't had much immigration because they had unsuccessful economies that did not create wealth and jobs.

Eastern Europe was retarded by Socialist ideology...over decades.
The racism is just one of many ways that they are behind 'the West' as a result.


Or because eastern european countries didn't rape over half the world over the last 200 years like most western european countries.
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England and racism again on 02:51 - Sep 4 with 794 viewsAjack_Kerouac

England and racism again on 02:35 - Sep 4 by Fireboy2

Or because eastern european countries didn't rape over half the world over the last 200 years like most western european countries.


Ever heard of the Soviet Union moron?

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England and racism again on 08:04 - Sep 4 with 754 viewsangryjack

England and racism again on 02:51 - Sep 4 by Ajack_Kerouac

Ever heard of the Soviet Union moron?


Soviet Union mainly only invaded Eastern European countries whereas we pillaged and raped half the world I.e the commonwealth...
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England and racism again on 10:20 - Sep 4 with 720 viewsonehunglow

England and racism again on 02:35 - Sep 4 by Fireboy2

Or because eastern european countries didn't rape over half the world over the last 200 years like most western european countries.


You need to brush up on your history Ed.
Listen to the tales of Red Army heroes raping German women en route to Berlin.

Or the people of Prague,Berlin,Budapest,Ukraine.

Russia as evil a country that has existed.

Sadly,Hungary has drifted very much to the Right as a result of Communist Russia.

Racism a common theme though

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England and racism again on 10:39 - Sep 4 with 716 viewsAjack_Kerouac

England and racism again on 08:04 - Sep 4 by angryjack

Soviet Union mainly only invaded Eastern European countries whereas we pillaged and raped half the world I.e the commonwealth...


What?

Why are people who know nothing on a subject so keen to share their opinions?

The Soviet Union stretched from Eastern Europe to the borders of Japan...skirting along the top of the Islamic World to the South.
Many countries were invaded militarily, the Soviet army were infamous for 'rape'. Resources were taken and exploited.
Man made disasters the Socialists were responsible for included draining a whole sea and exploding a nuclear reactor core in Chernobyl which poisoned European lands for thousands of years.

...and the people forced to live under the Socialst regime were monitored 24/7 by the thought police, the KGB, and sent to their deaths in hard labour camps for the crimes of speaking the truth.
These societies were retarded, the people impoverished, whilst their counterparts in the West lived in freedom, in the multi-racial,-multi-religious, multi-cultural West.

The result of the economic output of these free, relatively happy, people can be seen all around you.
The car you drive. The mod cons in your home. The device you are reading this on. The very internet itself.
How about that one? The Socialist sought to restrict information that people had access to. The free West created technology that allowed every single one of us to have the World's libraries at our fingertips.



Yet people like you choose to use the internet to call for the return of Socialism.
Idiots.

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England and racism again on 11:13 - Sep 4 with 702 viewsWhiterockin

England and racism again on 10:39 - Sep 4 by Ajack_Kerouac

What?

Why are people who know nothing on a subject so keen to share their opinions?

The Soviet Union stretched from Eastern Europe to the borders of Japan...skirting along the top of the Islamic World to the South.
Many countries were invaded militarily, the Soviet army were infamous for 'rape'. Resources were taken and exploited.
Man made disasters the Socialists were responsible for included draining a whole sea and exploding a nuclear reactor core in Chernobyl which poisoned European lands for thousands of years.

...and the people forced to live under the Socialst regime were monitored 24/7 by the thought police, the KGB, and sent to their deaths in hard labour camps for the crimes of speaking the truth.
These societies were retarded, the people impoverished, whilst their counterparts in the West lived in freedom, in the multi-racial,-multi-religious, multi-cultural West.

The result of the economic output of these free, relatively happy, people can be seen all around you.
The car you drive. The mod cons in your home. The device you are reading this on. The very internet itself.
How about that one? The Socialist sought to restrict information that people had access to. The free West created technology that allowed every single one of us to have the World's libraries at our fingertips.



Yet people like you choose to use the internet to call for the return of Socialism.
Idiots.


To be fair the British when they colonised the British Empire were no angels either. Nothing in comparison to the Soviet Union, but still many things were done we should be ashamed of.
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England and racism again on 11:53 - Sep 4 with 685 viewsFireboy2

England and racism again on 11:13 - Sep 4 by Whiterockin

To be fair the British when they colonised the British Empire were no angels either. Nothing in comparison to the Soviet Union, but still many things were done we should be ashamed of.
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No point trying WR we are morons for having a different opinion.
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England and racism again on 12:00 - Sep 4 with 676 viewsFireboy2

England and racism again on 02:51 - Sep 4 by Ajack_Kerouac

Ever heard of the Soviet Union moron?


Of course and they were as bad as the western european countries who ruled over half the world.

My point is that that the former easten bloc countries didnt have any immigration from other countries because they didn't invade and colonise them therefore they have a massive racist problem whereas countries like the uk don't.
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England and racism again on 12:12 - Sep 4 with 661 viewsGwyn737

England and racism again on 12:00 - Sep 4 by Fireboy2

Of course and they were as bad as the western european countries who ruled over half the world.

My point is that that the former easten bloc countries didnt have any immigration from other countries because they didn't invade and colonise them therefore they have a massive racist problem whereas countries like the uk don't.


And the mass booing of the knee is because the Hungarian Football fan is very politically aware in is upset about Harry Kane’s love of Marxism 😉
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England and racism again on 12:21 - Sep 4 with 659 viewsReslovenSwan1

England and racism again on 12:00 - Sep 4 by Fireboy2

Of course and they were as bad as the western european countries who ruled over half the world.

My point is that that the former easten bloc countries didnt have any immigration from other countries because they didn't invade and colonise them therefore they have a massive racist problem whereas countries like the uk don't.


Southgate has been wise in not lecturing Hungary over a handful of morons making animal noises. I saw 100 Millwall fans make sheep noises to the Swansea city bus 10 years ago. Happily Cockney boy Pratley scored two and shut them up. Morons will be morons aided by alcohol and drugs.

Hungary has been under occupation by the Muslim Ottomans and does not want Islamic immigration. It is their choice. Poland do not accept Muslim immigrants. UK chose to stop free travel for people of the European Union our choice. This was an indirect way of reducing Muslim immigration and away of opting out of accepting immigrants as decreed by the EU.

Eastern Europe treats African Asians with respect as visitors and tourists. They do not accept mass immigration. Russia has its own Muslim regions. Chechinya was a problem but was ruthlessly crushed and is now at peace. Dagestan, Ossetia are other region with some autonomy and identity living in peace. Eastern Europe has morons just like we do.

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England and racism again on 12:34 - Sep 4 with 655 viewsbuilthjack

England and racism again on 12:21 - Sep 4 by ReslovenSwan1

Southgate has been wise in not lecturing Hungary over a handful of morons making animal noises. I saw 100 Millwall fans make sheep noises to the Swansea city bus 10 years ago. Happily Cockney boy Pratley scored two and shut them up. Morons will be morons aided by alcohol and drugs.

Hungary has been under occupation by the Muslim Ottomans and does not want Islamic immigration. It is their choice. Poland do not accept Muslim immigrants. UK chose to stop free travel for people of the European Union our choice. This was an indirect way of reducing Muslim immigration and away of opting out of accepting immigrants as decreed by the EU.

Eastern Europe treats African Asians with respect as visitors and tourists. They do not accept mass immigration. Russia has its own Muslim regions. Chechinya was a problem but was ruthlessly crushed and is now at peace. Dagestan, Ossetia are other region with some autonomy and identity living in peace. Eastern Europe has morons just like we do.


Growing up in the 70s, racism in this country was awful. I can remember going to The Vetch and hearing monkey noises and seeing bananas thrown.
Some Eastern European countries are 50 years behind us. Simple as that.

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England and racism again on 13:49 - Sep 4 with 630 viewsonehunglow

England and racism again on 12:34 - Sep 4 by builthjack

Growing up in the 70s, racism in this country was awful. I can remember going to The Vetch and hearing monkey noises and seeing bananas thrown.
Some Eastern European countries are 50 years behind us. Simple as that.


It is Ken.
Times have changed for most countries but eastern Europe is decades behind.

It's nothing to do with left or right either nor what we Brits,Dutch,French,Portuguese did in the past either. This is now.
No excuses

Ban them .

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England and racism again on 18:18 - Sep 4 with 572 viewsAjack_Kerouac

England and racism again on 11:13 - Sep 4 by Whiterockin

To be fair the British when they colonised the British Empire were no angels either. Nothing in comparison to the Soviet Union, but still many things were done we should be ashamed of.
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I'll start being ashamed of the British Empire as soon as the Lefties start feeling ashamed of the Soviet Union,China etc. if it's all the same with you.

That day will never come.

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