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They’ve sacked LeTiss, Charlie Nicholas and Phil Thompson from Jeff Stellings Soccer Saturday, possibly one of the few things worth watching when Rangers are North of Watford.
No idea who their replacements are but whilst I enjoy Clinton Morrison’s delusions of grandeur I suspect we’ll be subjected to a succession of bland compromised replacements.
If they take midweek red button away games off us next season I may be forced to cancel.
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Unbelievable Jeff on 10:44 - Aug 27 with 2154 views
The show was absolutely rotten tbh. They're under threat from more innovative providers like the also Sky owned Football Daily for younger viewers or even dare I saw it Arsenal TV. People are providing different solutions in this space whilst Soccer Saturday has a load of blokes properly phoning it in. In dire need of a refresh.
As for social media - the mute function and Lists on twitter totally change how you experience the site. The main feed is absolute hellscape stuff. I only use facebook to post Simpsons memes
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Unbelievable Jeff on 10:54 - Aug 27 with 2119 views
The show was absolutely rotten tbh. They're under threat from more innovative providers like the also Sky owned Football Daily for younger viewers or even dare I saw it Arsenal TV. People are providing different solutions in this space whilst Soccer Saturday has a load of blokes properly phoning it in. In dire need of a refresh.
As for social media - the mute function and Lists on twitter totally change how you experience the site. The main feed is absolute hellscape stuff. I only use facebook to post Simpsons memes
People will create their own echo chambers on Twitter but the difference with Facebook is you have an advertising algorithm explicitly calibrated to enrage people's monkey brains. The mainstreaming of Facebook is the precise moment the internet became sht.
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Unbelievable Jeff on 10:59 - Aug 27 with 2095 views
People will create their own echo chambers on Twitter but the difference with Facebook is you have an advertising algorithm explicitly calibrated to enrage people's monkey brains. The mainstreaming of Facebook is the precise moment the internet became sht.
Hmm, I'd disagree there, you've got those the wrong way around. As someone who works in media planning, Facebook's algorithm is advertising driven - so it means it's onus is to sell stuff and means the feed is saturated with ads.
Therefore Facebook's real issue is that they have accumulated so much data on people that they use to fuel their ad buying engine, meaning people can ultra target very specific messaging to individuals to influence them. Especially once combined with AI driven ad generation that can create 1000s of ads from a small number of templates that would take humans weeks. That content is then very easily shared and comes peer endorsed by real people you know (Facebook's algorithm prioritises content from your friends amplifying this effect). All marketing research shows that social media advertising in and of itself is very poor at generating long term memory structures that make advertising effective - it's its low cost and peer endorsement that are creating the impact it is having.
Twitter is very much the enraged engagement algorithm however as they want to increase time on site to maximise ad exposure. It's called an echo chamber yet every time I go on there I am bombarded with terrible opinions from people I don't like.
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Unbelievable Jeff on 11:25 - Aug 27 with 2001 views
I used to watch this when SSN was on Freeview (admittedly some time ago now, I ‘ve never had a Sky subscription.)
The concept was pioneering and is great for the classic armchair fan. I only watched it when we were away and a game I was not doing. I really enjoyed it for a while but I soon realised it was the data presentation (overload?) that I enjoyed. The ‘personalities’ passed me by.
So now if I am not at the game, I will have the radio on with the (shamelessly copied) BBC version on mute in the background. Works fine for me.
Also. I am sure I can’t be the only one immune to the comedy stylings of Kammy (as apparently, we must call him.) In fact, I find him a massively annoying c***. (He was a dirty clogging bastard as a player, too.)
Terrible that old white men are being discriminated against and replaced by politically correct people, especially those of the man dem persuasion, you know what I mean.
Arsenal Fan TV must be dreading a spell of quiet competence. Who's going to watch it then?
The best things about Soccer Saturday are John Gwynne shouting down the line from Crewe, lovely Thomas Hardy heroine Michelle Owen and seeing which rickety scaffold they've put Bianca on this week.
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Unbelievable Jeff on 11:36 - Aug 27 with 1951 views
Hmm, I'd disagree there, you've got those the wrong way around. As someone who works in media planning, Facebook's algorithm is advertising driven - so it means it's onus is to sell stuff and means the feed is saturated with ads.
Therefore Facebook's real issue is that they have accumulated so much data on people that they use to fuel their ad buying engine, meaning people can ultra target very specific messaging to individuals to influence them. Especially once combined with AI driven ad generation that can create 1000s of ads from a small number of templates that would take humans weeks. That content is then very easily shared and comes peer endorsed by real people you know (Facebook's algorithm prioritises content from your friends amplifying this effect). All marketing research shows that social media advertising in and of itself is very poor at generating long term memory structures that make advertising effective - it's its low cost and peer endorsement that are creating the impact it is having.
Twitter is very much the enraged engagement algorithm however as they want to increase time on site to maximise ad exposure. It's called an echo chamber yet every time I go on there I am bombarded with terrible opinions from people I don't like.
I'm not sure I follow the distinction you're making. Facebook is surely just as geared towards maximising user attention as it is to targeting its ads, the two go hand in glove.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-it-encourages-division-top-executive “Our algorithms exploit the human brain’s attraction to divisiveness,” read a slide from a 2018 presentation. “If left unchecked,” it warned, Facebook would feed users “more and more divisive content in an effort to gain user attention & increase time on the platform.”
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Unbelievable Jeff on 11:38 - Aug 27 with 1938 views
Basic levels of competency for a pundit should be being able to pronounce a footballer's name correctly. The fact that those lads have gotten away with it for so long on Soccer Saturday probably tallies up with the massive decline in audience that I suspect they've seen.
The scant lack of research or preparation that you see some pundits / co-commentators get away with is mad. You wouldn't be allowed to do it in any other job.
Steve McMananananaman on the recent Champions League coverage was awful.
People deserve better, but it seems people have been getting very angry at the changes.
Basic levels of competency for a pundit should be being able to pronounce a footballer's name correctly. The fact that those lads have gotten away with it for so long on Soccer Saturday probably tallies up with the massive decline in audience that I suspect they've seen.
The scant lack of research or preparation that you see some pundits / co-commentators get away with is mad. You wouldn't be allowed to do it in any other job.
Steve McMananananaman on the recent Champions League coverage was awful.
People deserve better, but it seems people have been getting very angry at the changes.
Merson not being able to pronounce the names, and it being made out like a comedy thing, really grates. It's disrespectful, and it shows a lack of research on his part, and it's crass of the others to egg him on with it. It's also completely hypocritical from the audience who lap it up and love the montages of it that appear on lad Bible - if Alex Scott is on there next year getting players' names wrongs you watch how different the reaction is.
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Unbelievable Jeff on 11:45 - Aug 27 with 1904 views
First it was the supremely talented Richard 'Hanging out the back of it' Keys and Andy Gray, then this. I am fu cking devastated. SKY Sports have lost the plot. It's gone too far. I'll miss the banter, I'll miss the insight, and I'll miss them fighting for screen time by shouting over each other. They were the best of the best. The Golden generation of punditry. The A-Team.
If the rumours are true and SKY are replacing them with Stormzy, Owen Jones and Germaine Greer, then I am afraid this is just another example of woke cancel culture gone mad. Do the people at SKY really believe that Owen Jones is capable of shouting, "OH, NO! WHAT A MISS!" and then describing a cross that's been headed over?
First they came for Matt Le Tissier, and I did not speak out– Because I was not Matt Le Tissier. Then they came for Phil Thompson, and I did not speak out– Because I was not Phil Thompson. Then they came for Charlie Nicholas, and I did not speak out– Because I was not Charlie Nicholas. Then they came for me –and there was no one left to speak for me.
People need to wake-up before Jeff Stelling's replaced by Eddie Izzard in a frock.
Fulham FC: It's the taking part that counts
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Unbelievable Jeff on 11:56 - Aug 27 with 1844 views
Merson not being able to pronounce the names, and it being made out like a comedy thing, really grates. It's disrespectful, and it shows a lack of research on his part, and it's crass of the others to egg him on with it. It's also completely hypocritical from the audience who lap it up and love the montages of it that appear on lad Bible - if Alex Scott is on there next year getting players' names wrongs you watch how different the reaction is.
As someone with a foreign (but phonetically spelled and straighforward) name, can confirm this has always been the #1 top parochial Brit passive aggression.
At least I hope so anyway, if it's honest illiteracy that would be much more frightening.
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Unbelievable Jeff on 11:57 - Aug 27 with 1838 views
I could happily live the rest of my life without ever hearing another pundit but I would take her calm measured approach over that braying donkey Thompson every minute of every day. As soon as I heard his voice I would switch channels.
The grass is always greener.
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Unbelievable Jeff on 11:58 - Aug 27 with 1831 views
One of the best pundits of the lot who has not had much of a chance other than local stuff is Paul Parker although he probably dos not fit the age profile they are looking for.
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Unbelievable Jeff on 12:09 - Aug 27 with 1773 views
Merson not being able to pronounce the names, and it being made out like a comedy thing, really grates. It's disrespectful, and it shows a lack of research on his part, and it's crass of the others to egg him on with it. It's also completely hypocritical from the audience who lap it up and love the montages of it that appear on lad Bible - if Alex Scott is on there next year getting players' names wrongs you watch how different the reaction is.
Ah Merse is a bit dim, but he's enthusiastic and helps keep the show light hearted, he's the only I'd have kept and my bet will be that he gels well with whoever comes on board.
I'd like to see any three from Trevor Sinclair, Patrice Evra, Dennis Wise, Teddy Sheringham, Wayne Bridge, Alex Scott.
If not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled. PG Wodehouse
Ah Merse is a bit dim, but he's enthusiastic and helps keep the show light hearted, he's the only I'd have kept and my bet will be that he gels well with whoever comes on board.
I'd like to see any three from Trevor Sinclair, Patrice Evra, Dennis Wise, Teddy Sheringham, Wayne Bridge, Alex Scott.
Trevor Sinclair the racist , no thanks
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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Unbelievable Jeff on 12:17 - Aug 27 with 1736 views
I'm not sure I follow the distinction you're making. Facebook is surely just as geared towards maximising user attention as it is to targeting its ads, the two go hand in glove.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-it-encourages-division-top-executive “Our algorithms exploit the human brain’s attraction to divisiveness,” read a slide from a 2018 presentation. “If left unchecked,” it warned, Facebook would feed users “more and more divisive content in an effort to gain user attention & increase time on the platform.”
You said facebook prioritises making people angry to keep attention. It does not. It prioritises advertising and content from your peers. The anger is a consequence. With twitter it is a direct intention
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