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Last 10 years 09:46 - May 25 with 8122 views

As our latest Nuisance Apidae has been ‘contributing’ on another thread, would you as a supporter, swap the last 10 years for Brentford’s last 10 years?

RIP: Sniffer, Doug and Pat

Last 10 years on 18:44 - May 27 with 1448 views

St_Pollock

Last 10 years on 18:35 - May 27 by davman

Perfectly sums up my feelings on this. That Adel season felt like we had finally got back there. If it wasn't for Briatore's desperation to sell up, we would not have started our first season back with a worse team than the one that got promoted. That, immediately followed by obscene contracts for mediocre players and Hughesless' appointment, paved the way for abysmal Prem seasons.

The playoff season was just an embarrassment as with that wage bill, we should have romped home. Even Zamora day had a downside as it meant that we were lumbered with Redknapp.

Only since Olly came back has it felt like we're back to who we should be...

Ironically Redknapp nearly killed Portsmouth in return for a single day out at Wembley to show for it...

Last 10 years on 18:47 - May 27 with 1434 views

Nov77

Last 10 years on 18:40 - May 27 by St_Pollock
Who's the Brentford fan on this thread?

I’ll take one year watching Adel over Brentford’s entire history.

Poll:

December goal of the month - vote for your favourite R's goal during December

Last 10 years on 18:51 - May 27 with 1434 views

St_Pollock

Last 10 years on 18:47 - May 27 by Nov77
I’ll take one year watching Adel over Brentford’s entire history.

I would take 1 half of Devon White over everything we 'achieved' financially killing the club.

BTW, if that was you insinuating that I am a Brentford fan I was accused of being a Man Utd one a fortnight ago... Its almost as if some are programmed to believe that all QPR fans must believe one accepted truth...

Last 10 years on 20:06 - May 27 with 1380 views

kingo

Last 10 years on 18:40 - May 27 by St_Pollock
Who's the Brentford fan on this thread?

Switchingcode

RIP: Sniffer, Doug and Pat

Last 10 years on 20:25 - May 27 with 1366 views

BrixtonR

Last 10 years on 18:51 - May 27 by St_Pollock
I would take 1 half of Devon White over everything we 'achieved' financially killing the club. BTW, if that was you insinuating that I am a Brentford fan I was accused of being a Man Utd one a fortnight ago... Its almost as if some are programmed to believe that all QPR fans must believe one accepted truth...

Lol that sounds a bit wrong double fnarr fnarr etc.

The actual achievements were in 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 before the financial killing so don't agree. I totally agree with 2013-2014 utterly awful season (Yeovil away anyone) and I missed the goal cos I went for a slash before extra time.

10-11 was amazing and 11-12 was great (apart from Neil going and Barton the fkn cnt) then Bungle took it to a beyond Zippy like degree.

Did you ever go in those years mate or just watch cricket but otherwise if you got a chance watch the match from an executive box ? as I've heard some other disillusioned people did.

Last 10 years on 21:45 - May 27 with 1338 views

St_Pollock

Last 10 years on 20:25 - May 27 by BrixtonR

Both 2010/11 and 2011/12 belong to the era of 'Boutique Club' and everything it represented.

Warnock, although not financially doped to the extent subsequent managers were, wasn't operating on a shoestring, the club had priced out a significant amount of long term loyal fans (wasn't it around this time that LSA Russell started to just go to Loftus Road to sit on the wall and soak up the atmosphere because he could no longer afford tickets?), the squad was already full of mercaneries and the board had changed the badge to represent the fact that this was an entirely new club.

I had stopped going by then and I have no regrets about doing so. I have a firm idea of what QPR should represent and those owners killed the club. I would stop going again, very happily, if I felt the club no longer represented what I believe it should.

As for what I did during that period, I went to football quite often still but with the luxery of not caring who won. I also developed, away from football, interests which I believe made me a rounder person.

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Last 10 years on 21:57 - May 27 with 1326 views

DannyPaddox

Nuisance Apidae looked such a decent prospect. Especially after those impressive six minutes in the Carabao Cup. Is he still on loan at Forres Mechanics?

Last 10 years on 22:18 - May 27 with 1305 views

BrixtonR

Last 10 years on 21:45 - May 27 by St_Pollock

[Post edited 27 May 2020 21:47]

Fair Enough. Don't fully agree boutique club was more 2008-2009 and 2009/2010 0-5 v forest Darren Bent v PeterBoro so s*** anyway, till Warnock arrived and they shuffled the deckchairs with Amit. Actually thought you were someone else who used to post so got that wrong. But understand what you say overall from 2012. Think alot of people are getting rounded in this lockdown :-)

Last 10 years on 22:23 - May 27 with 1302 views

kingo

Last 10 years on 21:57 - May 27 by DannyPaddox
Nuisance Apidae looked such a decent prospect. Especially after those impressive six minutes in the Carabao Cup. Is he still on loan at Forres Mechanics?

No he had to retire from playing to take up an admin position with Bilious Red Stripes. Done rather well for himself and has many adoring disciples.

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RIP: Sniffer, Doug and Pat

Last 10 years on 22:32 - May 27 with 1293 views

DannyPaddox

Last 10 years on 22:23 - May 27 by kingo
No he had to retire from playing to take up an admin position with Bilious Red Stripes. Done rather well for himself and has many adoring disciples. [Post edited 27 May 2020 22:27]

I usually get bilious after the 6th Red Stripe. Then I’ll clean the palate with a Guinness.

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Last 10 years on 23:45 - May 27 with 1274 views

kingo

Last 10 years on 22:32 - May 27 by DannyPaddox
I usually get bilious after the 6th Red Stripe. Then I’ll clean the palate with a Guinness. [Post edited 27 May 2020 23:31]

I used to quite like the Red Stripe, but unfortunately they must have changed something as it is not as palatable these last few years. Love a Guinness though still, but 81/82/83 was a great vintage.

RIP: Sniffer, Doug and Pat

Last 10 years on 08:02 - May 28 with 1234 views

daveB

We've had some bad and miserable times in the last 10 years but also some very good ones, every season has had highs making them worth it

2009/10 - Win at Palace to keep us up
2010/11 - The whole thing
2011/12 - Beating Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton away, the 2 City games
2012/13 - Some of Remy's performances, beating Chelsea away
2013/14 - Yeovil awayday, playoffs
2014/15 - First half of the season at home was really good those home games against Leicester, Burnley, Villa, Liverpool and City all really exciting
2015/16 & 2016/17 - A bit shit really
2017/18 - Better stuff, enjoyed that Holloway team and the emergence of youngsters suc as Bright, Smyth and Eze
2018/19 - That cup run and the form in October - December was very exciting
2019/20 - Loved it all so far

It's not been that bad and we shouldn't be so down on ourselves only focussing on the many bad points of the last 10 years. If you did the 10 years before it was genuinely a lot worse bar 3 seasons with Holloway

i'm QPR I wouldn't want to be anyone else.

Last 10 years on 08:39 - May 28 with 1220 views

terryb

Last 10 years on 18:35 - May 27 by St_Pollock

Mate, we nearly went out of business because of most of the last 10 years.

At which point do you grasp that?

The men who put us at risk of death are not heroes, they are morons who almost put us out of business and all we got was a fluke win at Wembley and a Happy Zamora Day hashtag... Do you honestly not get that?

Brentford haven't achieved anything yet but, unlike us, at least they haven't financially ruined the club achieving nothing and are moving into a new ground.

And I'm not trying to 'bait'... As I said in another thread I'm not here to baa my way through the accepted mantras if I think they're nonsense.

We disagreed on City & United, but I'm mainly with you on the last ten years.

From the appointment of Warnock in 2010 till November 2011 I was very happy with the team. Not the club, but with the team. I would have preferred that we didn't have to suffer the Ale Faurlin affair though.

I was stupid enough to think that the Hughes summer would make us competitive in The Premier, but I had recovered my senses to argue against employing Redknapp. By then, I thought relegation was inevitable & wanted a manager that would start preparing us for The Championship.

I detested the play off season & I'm on record of stating in February that I was dreading the play offs as we would win them & that would mean that Redknapp stayed! Yes, of course, I enjopyed the Zamora moment, but I have no feelings towards those players.

What I have liked in the past decade is how we have changed! Thanks to Hoos & Ferdinand we are no longer spending our way to oblivion & this season has been my most enjoyable to watch since Jago was manager.

Would I swap the last ten years with Brentford? No, but I'd rather we hadn't been so close to hell in that time!

Last 10 years on 10:43 - May 28 with 1189 views

St_Pollock

Last 10 years on 22:18 - May 27 by BrixtonR
Fair Enough. Don't fully agree boutique club was more 2008-2009 and 2009/2010 0-5 v forest Darren Bent v PeterBoro so s*** anyway, till Warnock arrived and they shuffled the deckchairs with Amit. Actually thought you were someone else who used to post so got that wrong. But understand what you say overall from 2012. Think alot of people are getting rounded in this lockdown :-)

No worries.

Yep, definitely going back to work a lot heavier than I left it in April ðŸ˜

Last 10 years on 10:49 - May 28 with 1176 views

qprxtc

I wouldn’t want to have been where Brentford have been for the last 120 years.

Last 10 years on 11:12 - May 28 with 1162 views

rsonist

It's hard to compare really, can't swap from different positions. Benham FC are going through something akin to what we did fifty years ago under Gregory. Obviously they're doing it really well and good luck to them.

Last 10 years on 11:14 - May 28 with 1159 views

rsonist

Last 10 years on 10:29 - May 25 by stevec
3 years in the Prem Championship Play off win at Wembley Bit hard for Brentford even trying to compare as they’ve never known either.

Does it get more hollow than this, my god.

Last 10 years on 13:02 - May 28 with 1130 views

W7Ranger

Last 10 years on 21:45 - May 27 by St_Pollock

[Post edited 27 May 2020 21:47]

"As for what I did during that period, I went to football quite often still but with the luxery of not caring who won. I also developed, away from football, interests which I believe made me a rounder person."

You ate more food?

Last 10 years on 14:17 - May 28 with 1097 views

slmrstid

I'm a firm believer in life that you should never truly regret anything (well there is always going to be some exceptions I guess...)

Every moment, life experience etc, good and bad, makes you who you are today, and shapes your decisions and your future.

And the same applies with football. Yes we've had some rough moments in the last 10 years, but I'm still glad I was there to witness it, and those times have shaped QPR into its current form, and have led to the way we're now working around things. Would we appreciate QPR's current position quite so much, if we hadn't had that tumultuous period?

Answers on a postcard!

Last 10 years on 17:58 - May 28 with 1069 views

100percent

Last 10 years on 18:35 - May 27 by St_Pollock

Mate?
Unlike some I'm actually old enough and have been a season ticket holder long enough to remember proposed mergers, Jim Gregory's blind turnstiles and the selling off of commodities like Rodney Marsh for embarrassing amounts of money..
You seriously think the Briatore years and going out of business were something new? have you ever heard of Richard Thompson or Chris Wright?
Don't patronise me with your latter day nonsense.
'Happy zamora day' as you call it, engaged a whole new generation of youngsters - every club needs an injection of relative success throughout their history. Admittedly not achieved by any great standards and at a ridiculous cost, but a success none the less.
Brentford haven't financially ruined their club because they have never achieved anything and have never been in a position to ruin anything.
Let's see where they are in five years or ten years - when they have begun to put financial risk against their investment. It's never crowded along the extra mile.
As I said before, it's a promising project - but you won't find me sucking their dicks or swapping our last decade for that....

Last 10 years on 22:56 - May 28 with 1020 views

rsonist

Last 10 years on 17:58 - May 28 by 100percent

Come off it, the reputational damage of the last decade has outweighed by several orders of magnitude whatever presumptive new youth engagement a jammy play-off win might've bought us. We went from being a favourite local second club to pariahs of clueless comedy flop excess. (We're now in a far better place obviously).

You're right to say that we've been playing snakes and ladders from longer back than that though, unlike Brentford who have had a different narrative entirely and are only starting to play now after Uncle Benham bought them the board. As I say the original question is apples and oranges pretty much, though good craic nonetheless.

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Last 10 years on 23:50 - May 28 with 997 views

St_Pollock

Last 10 years on 17:58 - May 28 by 100percent

Richard Thompson was the greatest chairman this club had after Gregory. We always balanced the books, maintained the tradition of buying cheap but selling high and every manager was always given money to spend once we took out monies for ground improvements and cover loses.

In fact Ray Wilkins was given all £6m to spend from the Les money - once the Hayes sell on fee had been paid - because the books were in such good condition: Wilkins took us down because he was an awful manager.

The hounding Thompson got from a section of our fans was a disgrace in my opinion. Yes, he was wrong to grant Francis permission to speak to Wolves but as worst mistakes go, that's not a bad one and we never got close to financial turmoil under his reign.

Wright? He is a QPR fan schooled in the innovative years of Gregory. He also realised the importance of balancing the books and when it went wrong it was it was because he tried to be innovative and create a sporting club with Wasps. It was a disaster but he was simply too far ahead of his time however, regardless of that, it was a horrendously bad decision.

Bulstrude is a hard one to judge. Logic dictates that it's ridiculous to have so many professional football teams not only in the country but, in our corner of West London, where we have 3 sides within a 3 mile triangle. He realised that neither us or Fulham would have significant success as separate entities but combined - and you need to place this within the context of 1987 - may be able to become a force. He was right but his logic forgot one key aspect, football fans base their love on romantic factors and the scheme would never be embraced by most fans of either club and it was doomed to fail. He was thinking as a business man, not a football fan.

He did, however, fully understand the necessity of balancing the books and operating within our means. Something we should applaud.

Each of the above made mistakes but not one of them spent so much money that we ended up losing significant amounts of millions. None of them priced out loyal fans. None of them knowingly spent millions of pounds which we couldn't afford and willingly put this club into so much debt that we are still lucky to have a club.

So yes, I hope you enjoyed Happy Zamora Day but never forget that how ever happy it made you it was the sole success of financial recklessness never seen at QPR before or since. Me? I'm happy with the FA Cup Final in 1982, the Milk Cup run in 1986, finishing as London's top club, one of the biggest clubs in the World wanting OUR manager and seeing us develop players who went on represent their countries at World Cups and European Championships or who we sold to some of the biggest names in England.

All achieved under Gregory, Bulstrude and Thompson and all achievements which never came close to killing off over 130 years' worth of history.

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Last 10 years on 01:11 - May 29 with 977 views

rsonist

Wright realised the importance of balancing the books? Chris Wright?

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Last 10 years on 05:38 - May 29 with 957 views

St_Pollock

Last 10 years on 01:11 - May 29 by rsonist
Wright realised the importance of balancing the books? Chris Wright?

Wright's failure was entirely down to the decision to attempt to create a Continental style sports club with us and Wasps

It was the Wasps 'merger' which brought us into financial turmoil and if you read what I actually said you will see that although I acknowledged it to be an incredibly innovative idea - far ahead of its time - it was a horrendously bad decision.

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Last 10 years on 07:24 - May 29 with 932 views

distortR

Last 10 years on 05:38 - May 29 by St_Pollock
Wright's failure was entirely down to the decision to attempt to create a Continental style sports club with us and Wasps It was the Wasps 'merger' which brought us into financial turmoil and if you read what I actually said you will see that although I acknowledged it to be an incredibly innovative idea - far ahead of its time - it was a horrendously bad decision. [Post edited 29 May 2020 5:43]

Chris Wright sold himself Twyford Avenue to cover his losses, not ours.

We've been paying for that action since.

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