| Jonathan de Guzman 16:36 - Nov 18 with 8979 views | nyc_swans |
if you're wondering what he's been up to, read this:
and please leave the "f--k him" responses behind |  | | |  |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 16:41 - Nov 18 with 7525 views | Dr_Winston |
Crazy story. Very real grounds for legal action if he wanted to pursue it I'd imagine.
Great player for us. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 17:00 - Nov 18 with 7447 views | BarrySwan |
One would have to question why a grown man of substancial financial means didn't just go to a private top of the range doctor and get his own opinion and diagnosis? |  | | |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 18:34 - Nov 18 with 7229 views | Flashberryjack |
??????????????? !!!!!! |  |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 18:36 - Nov 18 with 7218 views | union_jack |
This "you're a dead man" bit. Is that a Napoli dead man or a Sicilian type dead man? Is there a difference.
Death threats are a little harsh, surely. |  |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:32 - Nov 18 with 7083 views | ItchySphincter |
Although we never really ‘owned’ him he is one of our greatest ever players. Obviously some of our thick fans didn’t get him him, but he’s one of the best to have ever pulled on the shirt. Wonderful player. |  |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 21:30 - Nov 18 with 6836 views | MrSwerve |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:32 - Nov 18 by ItchySphincter |
Although we never really ‘owned’ him he is one of our greatest ever players. Obviously some of our thick fans didn’t get him him, but he’s one of the best to have ever pulled on the shirt. Wonderful player. |
I was a bit gutted when we didn’t sign him permanently. Was truly under appreciated by many. |  |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 22:45 - Nov 18 with 6691 views | Loyal |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:32 - Nov 18 by ItchySphincter |
Although we never really ‘owned’ him he is one of our greatest ever players. Obviously some of our thick fans didn’t get him him, but he’s one of the best to have ever pulled on the shirt. Wonderful player. |
Played a part in the greatest ever swans side in history imo. |  |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 23:03 - Nov 18 with 6661 views | builthjack |
Excellent player for us |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 05:53 - Nov 19 with 6483 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 21:30 - Nov 18 by MrSwerve |
I was a bit gutted when we didn’t sign him permanently. Was truly under appreciated by many. |
We had to get rid of him so Ki could play. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 06:41 - Nov 19 with 6453 views | icecoldjack |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 05:53 - Nov 19 by Dr_Winston |
We had to get rid of him so Ki could play. |
To justify the £5m outlay of course.
Great player for us, not signing him and not retaining Pablo was IMO the start of a DNA change that has taken years to recover from. |  | | |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 07:06 - Nov 19 with 6420 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 06:41 - Nov 19 by icecoldjack |
To justify the £5m outlay of course.
Great player for us, not signing him and not retaining Pablo was IMO the start of a DNA change that has taken years to recover from. |
Ki was very much a club signing rather than a managerial one. Jenkins (and eventually by proxy Monk) was determined to see him as a regular in the first team. If memory serves Huwbert gobbed off in the press about how he was going to be an important player for us even after we'd packed him off to Sunderland for the season.
In the meantime it was obvious that Laudrup preferred JdG and rightly so. He was a better player in every way. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 08:58 - Nov 19 with 6297 views | dameedna |
For a while Ki was pushed out by the manager.
However Ki and JDG both got good seasons.
It is a bit of a sad comparison.
The story is about football doctors and clubs controlling mentality.
The type of mentality that forces out the supporters, players and supporters organisations.
Napoli at its finest. [Post edited 19 Nov 2018 8:58]
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 15:22 - Nov 19 with 6028 views | SPboy |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 23:03 - Nov 18 by builthjack |
Excellent player for us |
Excellent player indeed. He didn’t want to sign for us though & chose to sign for Napoli |  | | |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 15:26 - Nov 19 with 6027 views | Highjack |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 17:00 - Nov 18 by BarrySwan |
One would have to question why a grown man of substancial financial means didn't just go to a private top of the range doctor and get his own opinion and diagnosis? |
Contract law. |  |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 18:40 - Nov 19 with 5883 views | BarrySwan |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 15:26 - Nov 19 by Highjack |
Contract law. |
Would that have stopped you finding out what was wrong if you were in the same position and unhappy with the diagnosis and non treatment by a company doctor?
One would wonder where contract law comes into it when it is revealed that a diganosis might be incorrect following a second opinion in such cases? [Post edited 19 Nov 2018 18:41]
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 18:42 - Nov 19 with 5873 views | EasternJack |
Great player for us. Gutted at the time he didn't join permanently, although in hindsight best all 'round as the Monk would've ruined him as well. |  |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:17 - Nov 19 with 5835 views | karnataka |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 18:42 - Nov 19 by EasternJack |
Great player for us. Gutted at the time he didn't join permanently, although in hindsight best all 'round as the Monk would've ruined him as well. |
I seem to recall Monk was already playing him on the right wing after he'd taken over from ML.
De Guzman was quality, one of those players who, like Leon, had an instinct for finding space to receive a pass and move it on quickly. Scored a decent few goals from midfield too including his cracking free kicks against Stoke & Valencia. |  | | |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:26 - Nov 19 with 5821 views | TNT |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:17 - Nov 19 by karnataka |
I seem to recall Monk was already playing him on the right wing after he'd taken over from ML.
De Guzman was quality, one of those players who, like Leon, had an instinct for finding space to receive a pass and move it on quickly. Scored a decent few goals from midfield too including his cracking free kicks against Stoke & Valencia. |
...and Colorado Rapids. Helluva free kick fair play. He couldn't tackle mind. | |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:32 - Nov 19 with 5811 views | karnataka |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:26 - Nov 19 by TNT |
...and Colorado Rapids. Helluva free kick fair play. He couldn't tackle mind. |
True, but Lawrie McMenemy once said the ideal team was 4 violinists and 7 dustmen. JdG was obviously a violinist and some of our fans could never get that. | | | |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:33 - Nov 19 with 5809 views | ItchySphincter |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:26 - Nov 19 by TNT |
...and Colorado Rapids. Helluva free kick fair play. He couldn't tackle mind. |
He wasn't there to tackle. | |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 20:43 - Nov 19 with 5725 views | TNT |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 19:32 - Nov 19 by karnataka |
True, but Lawrie McMenemy once said the ideal team was 4 violinists and 7 dustmen. JdG was obviously a violinist and some of our fans could never get that. |
Nicely put, fair play, but even a violinist has his bins to see to. | |
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| Jonathan de Guzman on 20:53 - Nov 19 with 5710 views | Fireboy2 |
JDG was a rolls royce for us
Class act |  | | |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 20:57 - Nov 19 with 5702 views | LeonWasGod |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 20:53 - Nov 19 by Fireboy2 |
JDG was a rolls royce for us
Class act |
Yeah he was. Couldn't tackle if his life depended on it, but otherwise was just the type of player to have alongside or ahead of someone like Leon. |  | | |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 22:14 - Nov 19 with 5619 views | ploppy |
Paul Scholes couldn't tackle either. Just saying. | | | |
| Jonathan de Guzman on 07:47 - Nov 21 with 5254 views | JJJack |
I do wish that those fans who hate players "because they can't tackle" would puss off and support egg chasing . They just don't understand football the poor dabs. An need to lay off the roids. |  | | |
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