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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence 20:28 - Aug 12 with 37793 viewsHeadmaster

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/charlottesville-pro

Some graphic footage.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 05:40 - Aug 13 with 1715 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:59 - Aug 13 by Tummer_from_Texas

They have swastikas. They call themselves Nazis. They worship Adolf Hitler and the purest form of evil mankind may hopefully ever see. They are Nazis.

Saying that doesn't dilute what the German Nazis did with anyone with an IQ over room temperature. This isn't that complicated.

But...sorry about the dude, mate.


So they ALL were Nazis then, all of them. Do you not get it ? Seriously is your heating at zero ?
Fck me America, wake up !
In fact no, please stay with your judgemental nicely pigeon holed ideas and beliefs firmly in place.

Keep shouting those silly slogans, and some of us with the heating firmly on will keep laughing at you.

Pork for dinner.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 05:49 - Aug 13 with 1709 viewsHumpty

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 05:40 - Aug 13 by Loyal

So they ALL were Nazis then, all of them. Do you not get it ? Seriously is your heating at zero ?
Fck me America, wake up !
In fact no, please stay with your judgemental nicely pigeon holed ideas and beliefs firmly in place.

Keep shouting those silly slogans, and some of us with the heating firmly on will keep laughing at you.

Pork for dinner.
[Post edited 13 Aug 2017 5:43]


How would you describe the non Nazi people in this gathering organized by the KKK and Nazis yesterday?

How would you describe people happy to march with Nazis? Patriots? A bit right wing? The alt right?

Personally I'd run a mile if these scum showed up at anything I was supporting and immediately disavow it.

What does pork for dinner mean?
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 05:50 - Aug 13 with 1708 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:35 - Aug 13 by Humpty

Sorry but I will call people marching about, Nazi saluting, Swastika flying and chanting about Jews enslaving white people, Nazis.

They're f*cking Nazis.

If you think they not really Nazis because they haven't actually gassed a Jew you're a f*cking idiot.

They call themselves Nazis FFS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_(United_States)

Here's their flag.



They're not ashamed of it. They're proud of it. And the non Nazi but alt right arseholes who stand by them and share their views are equally reprehensible.

I can't actually believe this needs to be said in 2017.


I can't believe you pigeon hole everyone who is right wing a Nazi.
You lose any credibility straight away. And cheapen your opposition to it.
And no I'm not a fcking idiot, I leave that to people who resort to this rhetoric so they can buy all the idiot points they need to be fcking idiots.
Cheers mate, you helped me through a boring night shift.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 06:17 - Aug 13 with 1693 viewsHumpty

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 05:50 - Aug 13 by Loyal

I can't believe you pigeon hole everyone who is right wing a Nazi.
You lose any credibility straight away. And cheapen your opposition to it.
And no I'm not a fcking idiot, I leave that to people who resort to this rhetoric so they can buy all the idiot points they need to be fcking idiots.
Cheers mate, you helped me through a boring night shift.


I can't believe you pigeon hole everyone who is right wing a Nazi.

Nice straw man. Shame it was a really shit one but there you go. You're determined to make a massive tit of yourself tonight and in fairness you're having a right old go. Exciting watching the news earlier wasn't it?

I have never pigeon holed anyone who is right wing a Nazi. Never have. Never will. People who vote Tory are not Nazis. I've actually argued with people on here who constantly call Tory voters c*nts. I think it's idiotic and childish, though I'd never vote Tory myself.

I disagree with Brexit very strongly but don't call people who voted for it Nazis. Mad bastards yes. Nazis no.

I don't call people who vote Republican in America Nazis. Lot's of them are pretty racist but I wouldn't call them Nazis.

I call people who march about shouting racist and antisemetic things whilst displaying swastikas Nazis.

Apparently this event was about lots of Nazis being upset about the possible removal of a statue of a man who fought for the right to keep black people as slaves.

So why are they stomping about shouting about Jews and flying Swastikas and Nazi saluting?

Because they're f*cking Nazis.

Go to bed you f*cking clown.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 06:20 - Aug 13 with 1688 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 05:40 - Aug 13 by Loyal

So they ALL were Nazis then, all of them. Do you not get it ? Seriously is your heating at zero ?
Fck me America, wake up !
In fact no, please stay with your judgemental nicely pigeon holed ideas and beliefs firmly in place.

Keep shouting those silly slogans, and some of us with the heating firmly on will keep laughing at you.

Pork for dinner.
[Post edited 13 Aug 2017 5:43]


Nazis only partially being involved is bad, and it really doesn't matter how small the fraction is. Especially in this digital age, when a tiny handful of evil can do much more damage than ever before.

It needs to be firmly addressed by the Right, and dismissing, minimizing, rationalizing, or excusing it is just a terrible look. We should be more furious than anyone, because they are trying to represent us.
[Post edited 13 Aug 2017 6:22]

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 06:24 - Aug 13 with 1679 viewsHumpty

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 06:20 - Aug 13 by Tummer_from_Texas

Nazis only partially being involved is bad, and it really doesn't matter how small the fraction is. Especially in this digital age, when a tiny handful of evil can do much more damage than ever before.

It needs to be firmly addressed by the Right, and dismissing, minimizing, rationalizing, or excusing it is just a terrible look. We should be more furious than anyone, because they are trying to represent us.
[Post edited 13 Aug 2017 6:22]


Whilst I agree with you completely Mike, don't you worry about the man you voted for surrounding himself with advisors like this?

Bannon? Gorka?

Didn't it worry you when Trump refused to disavow these people, and pretended not to know who David Duke was? Despite knowing exactly what he was?
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 06:34 - Aug 13 with 1669 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 06:24 - Aug 13 by Humpty

Whilst I agree with you completely Mike, don't you worry about the man you voted for surrounding himself with advisors like this?

Bannon? Gorka?

Didn't it worry you when Trump refused to disavow these people, and pretended not to know who David Duke was? Despite knowing exactly what he was?


No, I feel safe that Trump isn't a Nazi, nor do I think he gets influenced to support white supremacist or separatist causes.

But sure, he deserves the share of doubt he gets about that, when he's this tone deaf in a situation like this. I'm concerned that much of the Right is becoming too reflexively defensive to condemn even the obvious, like Nazi f***s trying to jump on your bandwagon. That's what worries me.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 06:49 - Aug 13 with 1662 viewsHumpty

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 06:34 - Aug 13 by Tummer_from_Texas

No, I feel safe that Trump isn't a Nazi, nor do I think he gets influenced to support white supremacist or separatist causes.

But sure, he deserves the share of doubt he gets about that, when he's this tone deaf in a situation like this. I'm concerned that much of the Right is becoming too reflexively defensive to condemn even the obvious, like Nazi f***s trying to jump on your bandwagon. That's what worries me.


Fair enough. Personally I think Trump is happy to court these c*nts until it goes wrong, and then he'll pretend he never did. And his supporters will back him because they're not really bothered about him lying about anything. Which he does constantly and they simply don't care.

But that's just me.

But Gorka? And Bannon?

Happy with these people in the White House?
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 07:10 - Aug 13 with 1654 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 06:49 - Aug 13 by Humpty

Fair enough. Personally I think Trump is happy to court these c*nts until it goes wrong, and then he'll pretend he never did. And his supporters will back him because they're not really bothered about him lying about anything. Which he does constantly and they simply don't care.

But that's just me.

But Gorka? And Bannon?

Happy with these people in the White House?


Honestly, I'm not as familiar as you apparently about what makes them white supremacists.

Bannon is Breitbart, which is further right than I am, but I don't consider to be inherently racist or evil.

Gorka is a security advisor, and I know he's controversial, but I don't know the specifics to be honest.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 07:27 - Aug 13 with 1648 viewsMo_Wives

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 06:20 - Aug 13 by Tummer_from_Texas

Nazis only partially being involved is bad, and it really doesn't matter how small the fraction is. Especially in this digital age, when a tiny handful of evil can do much more damage than ever before.

It needs to be firmly addressed by the Right, and dismissing, minimizing, rationalizing, or excusing it is just a terrible look. We should be more furious than anyone, because they are trying to represent us.
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Well said, Lone Star. Identity politics are retarded...on the right or the left. I feel the rise in right wing identity has been greatly amplified by people turning the other cheek to left wing violence on peaceful people dating back about 18months. There has been a nasty element lurking on the right for a long time and the last 18months has pushed more young people towards them.
When the media has acted as a PR firm for the left...the kids have noticed
When the Mayor of Berkeley tells his police to stand down and Antifa attack people going to listen to a talk...the kids notice.
When the Mayor of Berkeley turns out to be associated with left wing activist group BAMN....the kids notice.
I see all these identity groups as idiots - white nationals, Nazis, Antifa, BLM. In fact, I believe them to be two cheeks of the same arse.

I'd also like to point out I would not arrest idiots for carrying Nazi flags (this gives them a taboo quality...and kids are attracted to the taboo. Let these people make fools of themselves. Defeat them with arguments) but I do denounce them. In the same way I also denounce the idiots carrying the communist flags. A flag of an ideology that has been responsible for more deaths than the Nazis, killed more Jews than the Nazis, put more people in work camps than the Nazis and unlike the Nazis is a repeat offender. Unfortunately, they also have had better PR than the Nazis and long line of apologists dismissing their crimes.

This post wasn't directed at you, Tum's, I was just agreeing with your sentiments at the start.

Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 08:29 - Aug 13 with 1623 viewsr0ckin

Loyal what the Hell are you doing in these threads? Trolling or what?

There is nothing to be defensive about here, these guys are right wing fascist groups. The whole thinking behind Unite the right is very similar to the tactics the Nazis employed back in the days of the Beer Hall Putsch. Hitler tried to Unite right wing groups under one banner to overthrow the elected Gov.

We are not talking about conservative Republicans here, we're talking about the Far-right and anyone with half a brain could see the rise of Trump/Bannon etc was going to add fuel to the fire. America has always had issues with right wing sentiment but it has bubbled under the surface. As ECB alluded to this is just the start, things could get pretty tasty when you combine this with the black lives matter movement and hard left groups it's a very dangerous time. Having dummies in charge creates a the conditions for extremists.

Peace

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 08:49 - Aug 13 with 1612 viewsMo_Wives

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 08:29 - Aug 13 by r0ckin

Loyal what the Hell are you doing in these threads? Trolling or what?

There is nothing to be defensive about here, these guys are right wing fascist groups. The whole thinking behind Unite the right is very similar to the tactics the Nazis employed back in the days of the Beer Hall Putsch. Hitler tried to Unite right wing groups under one banner to overthrow the elected Gov.

We are not talking about conservative Republicans here, we're talking about the Far-right and anyone with half a brain could see the rise of Trump/Bannon etc was going to add fuel to the fire. America has always had issues with right wing sentiment but it has bubbled under the surface. As ECB alluded to this is just the start, things could get pretty tasty when you combine this with the black lives matter movement and hard left groups it's a very dangerous time. Having dummies in charge creates a the conditions for extremists.


There's an eerily similar feel to pre-war Germany. Communist and Nazis fighting in the street.
Stop the world...I'm getting off.

Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 09:19 - Aug 13 with 1595 viewsexiledclaseboy

I'm glad I ducked out if this thread. I was pissed and it probably wouldn't have ended well. Never fails to surprise me what people will justify when their beliefs align. And I never realised that you can't be a nazi unless you've gassed a Jew.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 09:24 - Aug 13 with 1586 viewsMo_Wives

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 09:19 - Aug 13 by exiledclaseboy

I'm glad I ducked out if this thread. I was pissed and it probably wouldn't have ended well. Never fails to surprise me what people will justify when their beliefs align. And I never realised that you can't be a nazi unless you've gassed a Jew.


YOU...YES, YOU WITH THE LAGER AND LIME. Put down the alchohol and step away from the debate.

Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 09:25 - Aug 13 with 1584 viewsphact0rri

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 07:10 - Aug 13 by Tummer_from_Texas

Honestly, I'm not as familiar as you apparently about what makes them white supremacists.

Bannon is Breitbart, which is further right than I am, but I don't consider to be inherently racist or evil.

Gorka is a security advisor, and I know he's controversial, but I don't know the specifics to be honest.


Breightbart isn't racist.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/breitbart-headlines_us_5829ba13e4b060adb56f1

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 09:42 - Aug 13 with 1578 viewsHeadmaster

Someone has reported this thread for abuse. I'd like to know why. I posted a link to the Independent, and copied and pasted their headline, which has since been changed to: "Virginia white supremacist rally: One dead as car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville".

Apparently that hits a nerve with some.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:14 - Aug 13 with 1554 viewsMo_Wives

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 09:42 - Aug 13 by Headmaster

Someone has reported this thread for abuse. I'd like to know why. I posted a link to the Independent, and copied and pasted their headline, which has since been changed to: "Virginia white supremacist rally: One dead as car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville".

Apparently that hits a nerve with some.


Not me, mate. Nothing wrong with this thread IMO

Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:18 - Aug 13 with 1548 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

All they were missing was little moustaches

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:29 - Aug 13 with 1538 viewsMo_Wives

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:18 - Aug 13 by oh_tommy_tommy

All they were missing was little moustaches





Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:32 - Aug 13 with 1533 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:29 - Aug 13 by Mo_Wives





He sure did whip the Nazis arses

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:38 - Aug 13 with 1531 viewsSwans777

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 22:54 - Aug 12 by Loyal

As long as terminology like white supremacist, Nazi, commy etc is used to describe these protestors there will be ignorance.


You are right.
The far right is made up of many different groupings, some are Nazi's , some are anti government groups that that range from people who like paying fed taxes, to religious groups.

The fear I'd imagine is if these groups all come together, then there'd be major trouble.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:47 - Aug 13 with 1524 viewsBanosswan

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 09:19 - Aug 13 by exiledclaseboy

I'm glad I ducked out if this thread. I was pissed and it probably wouldn't have ended well. Never fails to surprise me what people will justify when their beliefs align. And I never realised that you can't be a nazi unless you've gassed a Jew.


Head down to Stamford hill with your carling premier hangover farts and you can be a Nazi

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:49 - Aug 13 with 1524 viewsMo_Wives

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:32 - Aug 13 by oh_tommy_tommy

He sure did whip the Nazis arses


Yes, he did. How do you think round 2 will go...



vs





Personally, I think we should invite them all to a desert island for a royal rumble. Tell them the winner gets to run the world. Then say, Kim Jong, fire away, son. Three birds, one stone.

Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 11:11 - Aug 13 with 1503 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 09:42 - Aug 13 by Headmaster

Someone has reported this thread for abuse. I'd like to know why. I posted a link to the Independent, and copied and pasted their headline, which has since been changed to: "Virginia white supremacist rally: One dead as car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville".

Apparently that hits a nerve with some.


I think the debate on both threads has been interesting and very educational in places, posters like Humpty when he isn't being a naughty chap are intelligent and informative. Loan as well, however he is obviously away on manoeuvres. Sometimes people catch the report button as they do the other buttons by mistake. I can't see anything wrong in these posts, it's a logical response to what is a world event, even though the car incident aside it was complete handbags. Americans get it so wrong most of the time it's laughable. And yes, I'm generalising.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 11:14 - Aug 13 with 1501 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 10:49 - Aug 13 by Mo_Wives

Yes, he did. How do you think round 2 will go...



vs





Personally, I think we should invite them all to a desert island for a royal rumble. Tell them the winner gets to run the world. Then say, Kim Jong, fire away, son. Three birds, one stone.


They look a camp lot.

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