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Bleeding Germans 17:49 - Jun 10 with 7005 viewsmax936

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/eu-referendum-brexit-would-see-uk-excluded-f


Makes you wonder who actually won the war, they wanted to rule the World so we stopped them, but now they rule Europe it seems.

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Bleeding Germans on 18:03 - Jun 10 with 5112 viewsblueytheblue

Posturing.

Germany are sh*tting themselves about us going.

There aren't that many "good" economies in Europe these days. Us going means more demands for suckling money from the teutonic teat...

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Bleeding Germans on 18:19 - Jun 10 with 5084 viewsmax936

Bleeding Germans on 18:03 - Jun 10 by blueytheblue

Posturing.

Germany are sh*tting themselves about us going.

There aren't that many "good" economies in Europe these days. Us going means more demands for suckling money from the teutonic teat...


Another reason to say fukem en innit, them and the frogs.

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Bleeding Germans on 18:41 - Jun 10 with 5051 viewsLord_Bony

Don't mention the war


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Bleeding Germans on 19:17 - Jun 10 with 5008 viewslonglostjack

Bleeding Germans on 18:41 - Jun 10 by Lord_Bony

Don't mention the war



Aldi is the best thing that's happened to the UK for a very long time.

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Bleeding Germans on 19:22 - Jun 10 with 4991 viewslonglostjack

Bleeding Germans on 18:19 - Jun 10 by max936

Another reason to say fukem en innit, them and the frogs.


Fck em all - the long and the short and the tall....

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Bleeding Germans on 19:23 - Jun 10 with 4988 viewssherpajacob

Ok brexiters, what is actually wrong with what they are saying?

"If you vote out, you won't be in the single market"

" If you want access to the single market, but not eu membership, (like Norway) you must accept free movement of people"

Ps: the war was won by the allies (predominantly the Soviet union)

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Bleeding Germans on 19:32 - Jun 10 with 4965 viewsdailew

Bleeding Germans on 18:03 - Jun 10 by blueytheblue

Posturing.

Germany are sh*tting themselves about us going.

There aren't that many "good" economies in Europe these days. Us going means more demands for suckling money from the teutonic teat...


UK a good economy?


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Bleeding Germans on 19:37 - Jun 10 with 4951 viewsApollo

You may be right, but as I see it Wolfgang Schäuble is only restating the obvious. The single market is a free market not only for the movement of goods and services but also for capital and labour. It is regulated by EU rules agreed by the member states. And it comes as a package so as to promote fair competition on a level playing field. To allow any one country to enjoy market access but restrict the free movement of labour would be to undermine the fairness of the market for everyone else. This is something that Margaret Thatcher well understood, which is why she insisted on the free movement of labour in the 1980s.

There is no halfway house. We are either in the single market or we are not. And to pretend otherwise, as some Brexiters do, is pie in the sky.
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Bleeding Germans on 19:38 - Jun 10 with 4947 viewsblueytheblue

Bleeding Germans on 19:32 - Jun 10 by dailew

UK a good economy?



Better than most in Europe think you'll find.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 19:58 - Jun 10 with 4909 viewsBanosswan

Bleeding Germans on 19:17 - Jun 10 by longlostjack

Aldi is the best thing that's happened to the UK for a very long time.



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Bleeding Germans on 20:01 - Jun 10 with 4895 viewsdailew

Bleeding Germans on 19:38 - Jun 10 by blueytheblue

Better than most in Europe think you'll find.


No.

Here's budget deficit by country.

Keep scrolling down for the UK. In between Sierra Leone and Senegal. Faroes and Croatia the only EU country below it.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2222rank.h

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Bleeding Germans on 20:05 - Jun 10 with 4887 viewsDr_Winston

Bleeding Germans on 20:01 - Jun 10 by dailew

No.

Here's budget deficit by country.

Keep scrolling down for the UK. In between Sierra Leone and Senegal. Faroes and Croatia the only EU country below it.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2222rank.h

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Fifth largest in the World. Behind only Germany in Europe.

http://statisticstimes.com/economy/projected-world-gdp-ranking.php

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Bleeding Germans on 20:17 - Jun 10 with 4856 viewsItchySphincter

Bleeding Germans on 20:05 - Jun 10 by Dr_Winston

Fifth largest in the World. Behind only Germany in Europe.

http://statisticstimes.com/economy/projected-world-gdp-ranking.php


Don't know but heard they sell more beemers in the UK than they do to the Krauts. Anyway, I though the article was pretty fair but detected a slight irony in that brexit could lead to reformation. We might be behind the Turkey and Ukraine in the queue to get back in by then.

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Bleeding Germans on 20:40 - Jun 10 with 4824 viewsNeathJack

If the UK leaves I think it will be the beginning of the end of the EU project as we know it.
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Bleeding Germans on 20:52 - Jun 10 with 4802 viewsClinton

Bleeding Germans on 19:37 - Jun 10 by Apollo

You may be right, but as I see it Wolfgang Schäuble is only restating the obvious. The single market is a free market not only for the movement of goods and services but also for capital and labour. It is regulated by EU rules agreed by the member states. And it comes as a package so as to promote fair competition on a level playing field. To allow any one country to enjoy market access but restrict the free movement of labour would be to undermine the fairness of the market for everyone else. This is something that Margaret Thatcher well understood, which is why she insisted on the free movement of labour in the 1980s.

There is no halfway house. We are either in the single market or we are not. And to pretend otherwise, as some Brexiters do, is pie in the sky.


So China isn't in the EU as we know. But they sell stuff hand over fist in Britain which is in the EU. They seem to have pretty good access to the EU market. Why can't we come out and still sell to Europe like the Chinese do?

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Bleeding Germans on 21:03 - Jun 10 with 4774 viewsFlashberryjack

Bleeding Germans on 20:40 - Jun 10 by NeathJack

If the UK leaves I think it will be the beginning of the end of the EU project as we know it.


It's already the beginning of the end, the EU is like a bus going down a steep hill with no brakes and a French and German driver trying to take control of the steering wheel, do we jump off now or wait until it crashes into the oncoming brick wall.

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Bleeding Germans on 21:12 - Jun 10 with 4756 viewsDr_Winston

Bleeding Germans on 20:40 - Jun 10 by NeathJack

If the UK leaves I think it will be the beginning of the end of the EU project as we know it.


Mentioned it in the other thread. If the UK leaves and does well then there's plenty of people all over the continent, especially in Germany who will be wondering why the f*ck they're still involved.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Bleeding Germans on 21:12 - Jun 10 with 4756 viewsmidswan

Bleeding Germans on 21:03 - Jun 10 by Flashberryjack

It's already the beginning of the end, the EU is like a bus going down a steep hill with no brakes and a French and German driver trying to take control of the steering wheel, do we jump off now or wait until it crashes into the oncoming brick wall.


good analogy and i reckon pretty near the mark.
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Bleeding Germans on 21:17 - Jun 10 with 4745 viewslonglostjack

Bleeding Germans on 21:03 - Jun 10 by Flashberryjack

It's already the beginning of the end, the EU is like a bus going down a steep hill with no brakes and a French and German driver trying to take control of the steering wheel, do we jump off now or wait until it crashes into the oncoming brick wall.


A pity Cameron was so pathetically Etonian about his diplomacy by trying to woo Merkel with a red carpet and a state banquet. The Germans are a nation of engineers and can see through all that crap. A pity because German interests coincide in so many ways with the UK's and could be a natural ally for pushing reform within the EU. The U.K. needs to move on, the war was yesterday and the Empire was the day before yesterday. It's 2016 not 1916.

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Bleeding Germans on 22:05 - Jun 10 with 4676 viewsApollo

If we were to trade with the EU under WTO rules, as China does, then we would be much worse off than we are now. First, our goods trade would be subject to EU tariffs. Second, we would lose our present rights of access to EU markets for service providers. This would be seriously bad news for our financial services industry in particular, causing major job losses and lost tax revenue.
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Bleeding Germans (n/t) on 22:08 - Jun 10 with 4663 viewsApollo

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Bleeding Germans on 22:13 - Jun 10 with 4651 viewsWingstandwood

It is time for the EU to be saved! It is time for Baron Kinnock of Bedwellty and Baroness Kinnock of Holyhead to enter the fray!

They must tell us all of how their EU status, personal achievements and contributions improved the lives of ordinary Welsh/U.K citizens. Apparently they have amassed a £10 million Pound personal fortune. Was this multi-million Pound fortune some form of reward and testimony for their invaluable services? Perhaps they should mention this sum to extol the virtues of British EU participation?

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Bleeding Germans on 22:22 - Jun 10 with 4638 viewslonglostjack

Bleeding Germans on 22:13 - Jun 10 by Wingstandwood

It is time for the EU to be saved! It is time for Baron Kinnock of Bedwellty and Baroness Kinnock of Holyhead to enter the fray!

They must tell us all of how their EU status, personal achievements and contributions improved the lives of ordinary Welsh/U.K citizens. Apparently they have amassed a £10 million Pound personal fortune. Was this multi-million Pound fortune some form of reward and testimony for their invaluable services? Perhaps they should mention this sum to extol the virtues of British EU participation?


Can't argue with that. I think you're absolutely right. But if the EU is a gravy train then so is the Welsh Assembly, Westminster, the United Nations etc etc.

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Bleeding Germans on 22:43 - Jun 10 with 4619 viewsNeathJack

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Bleeding Germans on 23:04 - Jun 10 with 4597 viewsmax936

Bleeding Germans on 22:43 - Jun 10 by NeathJack



Is'nt Blair a big noise out in Brussels these days? if he is and we vote to come out I hope he gets the DCM.

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